MLM Bot watch 62: MLMs taking advantage of CoronaV and other scams

[GoldenKelpie]

Here is link to previous thread...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3937557-MLM-Bot-Watch-61-enquire-within-upon-everything-pyramid-shaped?watched=1&msgid=98721275#98721275

@AllNewThings I think these conversations can sometimes be easier in person. I've brushed off a FL bot before by saying lightly "Ah, I don't think I'd be very good at that! I'm really not a natural salesperson!" Then when she said "the products are so great they sell themselves!" I politely pointed out that it was selling the business to others that I'd struggle with (ie exactly what she was doing to me!)

I realise it's harder with a friend though, especially if you're worried about her. And it doesn't let you off the product sales pitch (resist at all costs!!)

Smile and say, no thank you.

Repeat as necessary. Good luck!

@allnewthings - I feel your pain, our group of friends had to cut off a FL bot from our group as the pitching was incessant. Meals out, at the pub, at houses. Every conversation turned to FL.

We asked her to hold back from the FL talk, she didn't, so we just severed ties with her. IT seemed harsh, but she was changing the whole dynamic of the group, and not in a good way.

She sent us a passive aggressive group message, about how she will think of us when she is a millionaire.

Tragic

@BSintolerant

Yes, I wondered if Uber’s paid more tax on her DL because of bed and breakfasting.

Thinking about it more - the 'taxation and social security' line is up £114,548 on the previous year. If that was sales, given than corporation tax is 19%, her taxable profit (not turnover) would have had to have gone up by about £600,000. Can we really see that happening in the current environment? However, tax on a directors loan is at 32.5%, tax of £114,548 would equal a loan of £352,455 and the 2017 directors loan figure was £331,746 after no DL the year before.

As we don't know what the exact change is year on year, because we don't know what the change in corporation tax is, I would hazard a very strong guess that she's been taxed at 32.5% on the 2017 loan and potentially will be taxed on the subsequent ones going forward, hence the reduction in the DL account this year to try and bring the future liability down. It's catching up with her.

I’ve deleted my list of bots by mistake and most I can remember but not PhD - could I have clues for her name as a lady of the Press is looking into certain people’s conduct re a certain travel pyramid scheme and I think she has fingers in that pie doesn’t she? It’s rather urgent so help would be appreciated!

@YouokHun

PhD is actress with surname Paquin and the month beginning with M that has three letters.

You should direct the journo to the Geordie shore lady who is recruiting her fans. Atrocious behaviour.

@Botbrigade that’s it!! Thank you!

Yep, Gordie Shore has triggered the timing of it.

@YouokHun

Oh I’m glad as it’s totally pissed me off. I don’t even think she is running that account. I think she’s just the face of it and it’s scammer AF.

I really hope Uber and others are being caught out 'bed and breakfasting'. About time too.

Can we guess tha Valentus rep!? 😂

Yawn being a vulture again following today's beautician announcements
Absolute vile thing she is.

Yawn does make me laugh - spot the Freudian slip:

“But our weight management is by far the most popular - with the government suggesting we all lose weight, we isn’t [sic] fab products and plans to suit goals and budgets”

The government isn’t suggesting that we all lose weight - it is suggesting that overweight people need to do so. Yawn’s desperate drivel is accompanied by a photo of Yawn hiding the benefits of Forever Fibbing’s weight loss products (such as all those C9s she pushes on her downline) behind an enormous sign which says “BACK TO WORK !!!!”

First rule of advertising Yawn: sell the steak not the sizzle. She’s not fooling anyone.

I thought it was ‘sell the sizzle not the steak’?

Anyway she’s all sizzle. There is no steak

‘Where’s the beef?’

Sorry! Yes, of course you’re right @Spongebobette - I should have typed “sell the sizzle not the steak.” My Freudian slip was showing there! 😂

“Sell the chicken not the shake!” wouldn’t work very well for Modere would it? 😉

Chapeau!

@YouokHun There is a guy on Twitter who was a rep with Inteletravel and really had them worried. He had a load of evidence and was wanting to expose them. It was so bad that the woman who is the Director here (apparently she pulled the strings with ABTA etc and why they got her onboard) was very worried! Search Twitter - first name is the surname of Candle in the Wind superstar and surname is the first name of who is married to Tess Daly! The journalist definitely needs to talk to him

@BotOff good thinking. I think she’s talking to him already.

Love homeschool's inspirational quote.
'Don't let the internet discourage you or rush you. Noone is posting their failures'.
Like their bankruptcies homeschool? And others of course. And huge debts in the form of directors loans.

Broke's scam will be in pre-launch today. Eeeeeeeeeek Huns. I'm sooooo excited!

What is it with bots and signs? There’s a photo of Homeschool holding an “I love you” sign which she describes as:

Lovely sign dutifully made by one of my smalls😍😍

Homeschool must have very talented underwear. I’m glad my knickers can’t write: they’d get me into all sorts of trouble.

All the trumpet blowing about Nurse's 24 day shred starting today and she's delaying it by 2 days because she's staying with her parents.

What is the point. Just eat healthily from today, love. I never understood this mentality when dieting - eating crap until a certain day then starting a crazy diet. Her biz page posts are tumble weed. No comments from people wanting to buy the c9 to do at the same time as her.

Yes Homeschool’s “smalls” feature quite a lot (Mercifully not the smalls @BSintolerant is referring to!), but have you noticed that she and WW no longer do joint lives? I wonder if they have decided that too many people are questioning the set up and where her earnings (whatever they are) are being paid? She was reported to the insolvency agency more than once for apparently “earning” whilst bankrupt and possibly not declaring those earnings so perhaps they feel they need to put some distance between the chicken cartilage opportunity and the gaslighting-therapy-weight-loss-have-you-tried-chicken-cartilage-For-your-self-esteem scam?
From what I can see WW is astute enough to know when the spotlight is on them and I’ve noticed how very careful he is not to rile the antiMLMers, so I think he knows others have worked out their little insolvency agency dodge and he’s decided he needs to look like he’s got nothing to do with her bizniz.

@YouokHun yes, I think you’re right about Weird Willy.

According to someone on the AIBU Tropic thread it has found its way into the Daily Mail.