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MLM Bot watch 62: MLMs taking advantage of CoronaV and other scams

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GoldenKelpie · 29/07/2020 18:36

Here is link to previous thread...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3937557-MLM-Bot-Watch-61-enquire-within-upon-everything-pyramid-shaped?watched=1&msgid=98721275#98721275

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YouokHun · 30/07/2020 14:51

I’m sorry to have missed Castle getting sartorial advice from the bedungareed gaslighter. I did look for it but couldn’t find it.

As for Yawn’s Yachting downgrade. I have found a caravan with potential, it just needs that paint she likes and a bit of bunting but it is essentially already shabby chic.

In searching for a suitable caravan I discovered an FB page called The Shit Caravan Club. Based on childhood fortnight long lock-ins, drinking out of plastic cups watching the rain come down while pitched in a field on some Devon farm, I can confirm there is no other type of caravan!

Sorry Yawn, I hope I haven’t pissed on your CalorGas camping stove with my neg ferret attitude.

MLM Bot watch 62: MLMs taking advantage of CoronaV and other scams
Bluewavescrashing · 30/07/2020 15:36

What's going on with Castle's Lodge? Are the parents living in it while Bruv is in the garage?

Her baby news is lovely but I find it incredulous that she allowed so many visitors during lockdown as a pregnant woman. The risks aren't known yet.

CodenameVillanelle · 30/07/2020 16:00

Place mark!
I see Broke is back with the sexy bum again Grin

CompleteBarstool · 30/07/2020 16:58

Yawn's BFF donated her rather hideous upcylced furniture to a charity to help someone in need. She started off trying to sell it but clearly had no interest.

Yawn, in her usual fashion, had to jump in with "it was my idea" when BFF was trying to have her warm fuzzy moment about helping out someone needy. She needs so much validation doesn't she, it's relentless.

Norma27 · 30/07/2020 17:08

Always has to be about yawn.
I wonder what she bought Mr yawn for their anniversary. She is a spoilt child throwing a tantrum when his first gift wasn't enough.
Also wonder how much yawn bff paid for that Younique tat!

spanfan · 30/07/2020 18:21

Where has Mr homeschool talked to Castle?? I neeeed to see it. 😂😂😂

Spongebobette · 30/07/2020 21:04

No, he didn’t, it was just the fact that she’s started wearing dungarees

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 30/07/2020 21:17

I have been invited to a 'gorgeous gifts' group. They have an online catalogue, they are offering a gift to whoever can invite the most people to the group and seem to have regular raffles. I am not partaking but it does seem to follow the pattern.

YouokHun · 30/07/2020 21:30

No, he didn’t, it was just the fact that she’s started wearing dungarees

Oh @Spongebobette you have ruined my day. I was waiting to be pointed in the direction of castle and Weird Willy! Grin

Spongebobette · 30/07/2020 21:55

Soz 😎

AllNewThings · 30/07/2020 22:54

Aargh. Many years ago, a good friend of mine got involved with Forever Living. She was relentless and I was almost at the point of ending the friendship before she mercifully stopped. Everything went back to normal until the last few weeks when she's decided to take it up again. She messaged me to see if me, DH or our teen DD would be interested in joining her. I immediately replied that no, it's not for us, but that we wished her well. She's since sent me a 10 min long video of her doing a pitch, which I ignored, having already told her no. Today she's sent me an oddly worded text, telling me how much she misses me and wants to catch up. Thing is I do value her friendship, but I am absolutely not going to buy from or sell for her. She asked to pop over next week and the weird excessive enthusiasm in our text exchange makes me think she's coming over to hard sell to me. I'm don't want to end up like before when I found myself avoiding her and worrying about the times we were going to meet up, but I'm already stressing about her coming round next week. What can I say when she comes over that is non confrontational, but makes it very clear that I am not interested? I had another friend a year or so ago try to recruit me into Arbonne and although I thought I was pretty direct with her, I obviously wasn't direct enough, cause she pestered me for months. This is such a ball-ache.

yorkshirecountrylass · 30/07/2020 23:00

@AllNewThings the trouble is as fast as you say no she'll have an up line telling her it's not no, just a no for now and "coaching" her to help her make you see what an "amazing opportunity " it is. I was sucked into FL for a time and cringe when I think of how hard I tried with some people! I would try a very direct message or discussion along the lines of, "Look I really value your friendship but I'm uncomfortable that we keep going back to this MLM opportunity. I don't want to offend you but I am not interested it's a scam," at this point be prepared for her to tell you 101 reasons it's not and stop her before she starts with a simple, "I don't want to discuss it further and I won't discuss it again." When she opens up again (which she will), "Yes we've talked about this before let's move on."

AllNewThings · 30/07/2020 23:11

@yorkshirecountrylass Thanks for your reply. I don't think I've got the balls to be that direct to her face. I'd be worried about offending or embarrassing her and that the rest of our visit would be awkward as arse. I thought about trying to preempt the discussion by texting her in advance and making reference to the video she sent and how she came over really well (she did) but that I hadn't responded to it as I'd already told her it wasn't for us and had assumed she'd sent the video out to everyone in her contacts. What do you think? Or do you think she would see this as me engaging and so have the opposite effect of what I was trying to avoid?

AllNewThings · 30/07/2020 23:14

I actually feel so fucked off at being made to feel like this by a friend.

Livingthroughcrazy · 30/07/2020 23:16

This stuff makes me cringe. My sister did Arbonne for a while and that was pretty painful being leached on to hold parties. She was in a bad space at the time and the "brainwashing" that went on was obvious to everyone except her, it was awful. Some friends rejected her, things with "the business" obviously didn't work out and her low ebb went even lower.
I can't stand the predatory nature of these things - someone tried to recruit me to bloody Modere (or whatever the collagen one is) a few weeks ago - pop, pitch, opportunity etc etc earn thousands - straight to my inbox. These things are not "businesses" - they are parasitic!
It really does make me cringe and it actually makes me pretty angry too.

yorkshirecountrylass · 30/07/2020 23:17

@AllNewThings I'd avoid anything complementary about it, I understand you're trying to be kind and not shatter her confidence but saying she came across well will likely be taken as a positive and lead to more! If you don't feel able face to face then yes I think a message in advance of the visit will help. Try and stick to very factual. "Sorry I didn't respond to your video earlier. I guess you've sent it to all contacts and weren't waiting on a response from me as I've already said I'm not interested/it's not for me."

AllNewThings · 30/07/2020 23:22

@yorkshirecountrylass That's a good reply. I think I'll send that - thanks.

AllNewThings · 30/07/2020 23:27

Right, texted this, "Sorry I didn't respond to your video. I guess you've sent it to all contacts and weren't waiting on a response from me as I've already said it's not for me. x". Actually feel quite nervous about what her reply might be, but at the same time, I'm feeling better for having addressed it in advance.

BSintolerant · 31/07/2020 06:30

@AllNewThings please don’t worry about offending her. She’s not worried about making you feel uncomfortable or embarrassed. She’s after your money. I’d send her the link to the BBC documentary. Grin

@Cacacoisfarraige has Companies House been in touch with the happy news that Uber’s Accounts have landed? Wink

BovvyDazz · 31/07/2020 07:19

Uber’s accounts...
So apparently she made a bigger profit in the year (as taxation due has gone up).
Her overall net wealth of the company grew (as did the cash at bank), and the value of the directors loan has dropped a bit.

A huge amount of trade/other debtors which are not the directors loan.
I don’t really get what this is... estimate of chairman’s bonus (so did she get one?)

VeryLittleOwl · 31/07/2020 07:58

@BovvyDazz

Uber’s accounts... So apparently she made a bigger profit in the year (as taxation due has gone up). Her overall net wealth of the company grew (as did the cash at bank), and the value of the directors loan has dropped a bit.

A huge amount of trade/other debtors which are not the directors loan.
I don’t really get what this is... estimate of chairman’s bonus (so did she get one?)

Could that taxation increase be HMRC deciding she's been bed & breakfasting her directors loans and requiring her to pay tax on it? That would account for the decrease in the loan amount as well, if she's now got to pay tax on some of it.
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GoldenKelpie · 31/07/2020 08:52

@Spongebobette

No, he didn’t, it was just the fact that she’s started wearing dungarees
Good grief, Sponge, I've just choked on my coffee reading that. So funny Grin.
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GoldenKelpie · 31/07/2020 09:07

I'd thought my cousin had stopped doing BSAH but last week she started up posts in earnest again. She is a typical ideal victim, targeted because she is a carer for her dad (my uncle) who has dementia and lives with her Sad, and can't work outside the home.

I was driving down south to visit mum (yay!) and diverted on the way to see her and my uncle for a (distanced) cuppa and a catch up.

To her credit, she never mentioned ANYTHING about BSAH, not a dickie bird. She knows my views on MLM as we chatted about this a few years ago (one of our nieces was being exploited by a 'friend' from fl who sent everyone in my nieces fb page an 'fl is wonderful join my team' type post Angry, so to her credit she respected my views.

AllNewThings, I hope your friend respects your wishes and you both have a lovely, relaxing catch-up.

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draughtycatflap · 31/07/2020 09:08

@AllNewThings

Right, texted this, "Sorry I didn't respond to your video. I guess you've sent it to all contacts and weren't waiting on a response from me as I've already said it's not for me. x". Actually feel quite nervous about what her reply might be, but at the same time, I'm feeling better for having addressed it in advance.
I hope your meet up with your friend goes well but I suspect she will be persistent. And as mentioned upthread she had no problem with ignoring your wishes before so why would she now?

How about a more direct “If this is about selling me shite our friendship is over”. 😀

BSintolerant · 31/07/2020 10:03

Yes, I wondered if Uber’s paid more tax on her DL because of bed and breakfasting.