Anti MLM/ Network marketing thread NUMBER 43!!

[Spongebobette]

This is the 43rd thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

Oh inwardly furious I mean! She held it together outwardly. Everyone else bought multiple products, so I don't feel too bad. Normally I'd have bought the cheapest thing to be polite, but meh, I'm getting tight in my old age.

Urgh the newbie whom commented on that post needs saving

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I completely agree Spongebobette. It's like an alternative, twisted reality.

What a shallow, vain person she is. About as deep as a puddle with all her motivational quotes and twee.

She reminds me of the leader of the bullies in school, who everyone is dying to impress and who picks her favourites on a whim and picks them up and drops them again.

She's still posting about the positive packs.

Yeah, the message that used to come out of FL was that there was no pressure and you could earn as little or as much as you like. Obviously not any more!

The thing that strikes me the most about Yawn is that surely she could have done well in an actual business. Apparently she was a child minder before. I just can't imagine her being a child minder!

She could have been in a senior position in a sales and marketing job by now, with a pension, sick pay, holiday entitlement, a company car and other perks such as travel

But she’s grinding away doing EXACTLY the same as when she started, recruiting, doing team training, rinse and repeat. Incredibly boring. And she’s had to sacrifice her family’s privacy and to overshare her ‘personal weight loss journey’ as part of her ‘job’.

She made some big bucks when Forever Living was at its peak in the UK, as a lot of the top bots did, but that situation was unsustainable and now the word is out about FL it’s harder and harder to recruit.
Some of her recent victims won’t last long.. just long enough to part with money they can’t afford to lose

I honestly don’t think Yawn would be a success in business, she demonstrates little to no commercial understanding- poor financial decisions when she was a high earner, miscalculation of her cheque last year etc.

Maybe she would be ok as a general sale rep, but no way above that.

I do remember a time maybe 5 years ago where she didn't personally seem to be doing so much recruiting - her downline was obviously lucrative enough that she didn't have to.

I also remember a time where FL recruits would get a car at certain levels or a holiday etc.

How do people know she miscalculated her cheque?

@Electrascoffee - Yawn's former life as a 'childminder' is just more lies smoke and mirrors to portray the amazing rags-to-riches opportunity provided by FL.
Her Linked In profile describes her previous employment as being a 'police communications operator'.
I think it was someone on here (Dora?) who said they had attended one of her indoctrination training sessions where she explained that describing herself as a childminder made the whole "if humble little me can do it, so can you" narrative more attainable.

She's not very academic so I suppose that's why she could make errors in terms of how businesses actually work. But she's pretty and when she talks to groups of people she does come across well. I imagine that's the basis of her success.

I also think that a lot of women want to buy into the friendship network - it's probably comforting for them to be part of a clique. At least at first...

Didn’t she post something about miscalculating her cheque, or did I imagine that?

Being pretty and a good public speak will only get you so far, you need to be a strong leader and extremely commercially minded to progress.

@Electrascoffee she posted a few weeks ago that she had miscalculated. and would need everyone to help her get her figures up!

Yes I completely agree. I know a number of people who work in sales, an ex of mine included. They all seem to be good looking and got so far but couldn't make it to the top because they aren't actually business savvy enough.

Omg really? That's awful - I wonder what goes on behind closed doors?

Looks like it was complete coincidence that she posted about messing up her figures the day before she started making up the packs for the breast cancer centre

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah that is just awful. It does look very obvious. I think these people live in a bubble tbh.

I would say they all had life changing incomes for three to four years. However boy did they spend in those years thinking they were set up for life. Expensive handbags, make up being professionally done, car plan etc etc
They never thought the bubble would burst so quickly and now it's spiralling downwards they are all in trouble. I can't believe how silent the whole market is - I think they have lost the will to do it anymore.
You don't hear of them jetting away to other countries to share the success stories - all the other countries know that the UK is down the pan.
I feel so much for the vulnerable having been sucked in, but a business model that contributes next to nothing to the UK economy can go and fuck right off for all I care.

Absolutely, Paddy.

What do we reckon to Sleaze’s announcement then? It sounds like TS except for the bitcoin part, unless I’ve missed something (or he’s going to do some dodgy conversions of £ into Bitcoin in a scammy way that benefits him)

Urgh I’m on a fb group which is mainly about self help etc. I don’t post often but find others’ posts interesting and inspiring at times. Members are a mix of UK/USA.

Someone has posted today (a US member) that she’s now got the confidence to have taken a new job, she’s now an independent representative for Beauty Counter! Yay! As soon as I saw those dreaded “Independent Consultant” words I was 🙄🙄🙄.

She’s now replying to the post saying what products she finds great etc....

Sleaze is definitely going to TS. He’s been brown-nosing Messiah for months.

He’s probably convinced him to accept BTC as payment/pay commission in BTC.

How’s that retirement working out for you Sleaze? Having previously said that crypto was all you needed because thanks to your scams magic investments with guaranteed ROI, you earned whether your BTC value increased or decreased. Now you’re saying that crypto is “too volatile” and you need to diversify into product.

Little bit contradictory, no?