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MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40! Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money

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Whiterangey · 29/05/2018 12:27

Not making money with Forever Living?

Not making money with any MLM?

How to make money with Forever Living?
How to make money with MLM?

Maybe this report done for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) by Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., of the Consumer Awareness Institute may have the reason why.

www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf

When someone urges you to join an MLM in their downline with tales of the riches you can earn, all they are trying to do is use you to earn themselves more money. They know the stats, they know you won't make money and you will lose money, and friends.

They will lovebomb you, be your best friend, be all over you and then drop you like a stone.

Look at the person who is your uplines facebook. See how the people who were tagged in her statuses a year ago the same way you are tagged now are doing. Are they still with the company? Many won't be. Those who are will still not be doing well, exactly the same as a year ago, or two years ago.

If you are in Forever living, check facebook for the global rally cheques of your upline, notice how they have been going down year on year? The market reached saturation point in 2015, it's downhill since then and things will get worse, not better.

Most MLM's in the UK are at the same point, we are not a huge country and MLM's have reached saturation point.

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BSintolerant · 17/06/2018 19:58

Some of those bots must be beyond help if they're reporting anti-MLM posters as paedophiles. That'll go down well in the Magistrates' Court and with potential recruits. "My upline has form for harassment, huns. They spent a few months in Her Majesty's Hotel - that's dedication to MLM for you. It's easy to brainwash a captive audience.

BSintolerant · 17/06/2018 19:59

I find that hard to swallow Whiterangey 😜

ArbunneHun · 17/06/2018 22:02

Regarding the new launches - I’m pretty sure (though I’ve never been able to prove it) that Ariiiiiix incentivised senior leaders from other MLMs to join, whether it was a straight forward cash incentive or a guaranteed rank/income after a certain length of time... I also recall Isagenix flying people out to the US for free when they were getting started in the UK. If you are a charismatic leader and they think you will bring a good-sized gullible downline with you, they’ll definitely make it worth your while.

Paddy1234 · 17/06/2018 22:19

Just read that Welsh bot (number 4) has just qualified for Sweden - surely she would have qualified sooner than Castles bff?!? Not sure if I read correctly but she got double in bonus this year than bff - no wonder her social media/recruiting presence is off the radar at the moment trying to recover her business.
All I seem to see is all the top bots joining forces to recruit #sorry lost cause

Star1234567890 · 17/06/2018 22:22

Cozie has posted something concerning

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3281073-help?pg=1&order=

Paddy1234 · 17/06/2018 22:24

Already deleted

Star1234567890 · 17/06/2018 22:33

A post titled 'Help'. Very little info shared but stating may be about to be imprisoned without trial.

ArbunneHun · 17/06/2018 22:49

Does anyone know her IRL?

x

ArbunneHun · 17/06/2018 23:11

Just saw a recruitment ad for Weleda part-time, at-home ‘wellness advisers’. I read on, and it’s clear that this is not an MLM structure, thank goodness.

No exaggerated income promises
Protected territory
No recruitment by other advisers
Free training

This is how to do direct sales decently and ethically. Take note, Neal’s Yard/Bodyshop at Home/Tropic/Arbonne/FLP etc etc etc

MLM Bot Watch 40 - Forever Living is 40!  Yet still 99% of people in all MLM's lose money
BSintolerant · 17/06/2018 23:29

@cozietoesie I didn't see your other thread. Are you okay? Is there anything we can do?

Whiterangey · 17/06/2018 23:58

I hope she is okay, this is very concerning, I will be thinking about her and hope she is safe and posts soon.

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 18/06/2018 07:23

I didn't see Cozie's post last night.
I do hope she's OK, whatever is going on.

Has anyone managed to contact her or know what's going on?

Norma27 · 18/06/2018 07:25

Hope Cozie is ok. Didn’t see the thread last night xx

Afishblowingbubbles · 18/06/2018 07:34

Hope she is ok, please let us know if any1 hears from her, worried about her xx

Norma27 · 18/06/2018 10:01

Why would a bot earning mega bucks ask to borrow a tent to go camping? And asking to borrow air beds. Surely to can afford to buy your own super duper one!

ArbunneHun · 18/06/2018 11:03

Salon has had her baby - congrats!

How long until the weight loss posts start, and what will be the product of choice?? Not sure that Valentus still cuts it with Salon, but I could be wrong...

Twentytwentyhindsight · 18/06/2018 13:16

Only just saw this - whatever is going on, I hope Cozie's OK.

If you're reading this, all the best and ask for help if you need it.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 18/06/2018 15:00

Salon's BFF has just announced that she's going back to her salon part-time "to help out", whilst simultaneously giving details of how to book with her. How's that travel MLM working out hun?

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 18/06/2018 15:00

Salon posted a photo the other day of barely-concealed Valentus products.

9dartfinish · 18/06/2018 15:14

I've often wondered if MLM's push certain hunbots up the pin titles even though they technically haven't earned it. I've seen some companies house records for a couple of hunbots and it doesn't appear to add up. I suppose it could also be the case that some high pin titles just don't pay as much as they are rumoured too. Either way it's all a steaming piles of lies, deceit and manipulation.

dadandmum · 18/06/2018 15:51

I see Yawns other bestie is now ringless, what a shame, and I mean that, she and him did seem really very happy together. I just hope it wasn't down to the stain of FLP.

Norma27 · 18/06/2018 15:56

Yawn’s bestie was supposed to unveil her new car a few days ago. I wonder if she is hoping that people will just forget about it?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 18/06/2018 16:14

I noticed that about the car Norma. She was stringing people along until the evening and then just said it hadn't turned up yet Hmm

Let's just hope that whatever it is that it's big enough for all the borrowed camping equipment .

Norma27 · 18/06/2018 16:42

That made me chuckle Kenny!!
Do people actually believe their lies? Or do they choose not to listen to their doubts as the brainwashing training teaches them to do.

Whiterangey · 18/06/2018 18:01

Yawn hasn't posted for a couple of days which is unlike her.

Looking at her BFF's last accounts she was barely making enough money to send her children to their private school. I'm guessing the situation is still the same, or worse. Given that her husband wasn't working, they were both on a really really low wage. If they both worked at McDonalds they would have made more. Things are worse this year, I imagine her new car may be a secondhand one. It would financially be foolish for her to get another leased car.

She will be making more money for herself since they separated.

I imagine FLP did have something to do with their split. I would hate it if my husband hit up all of our friends, family, and anyone and everyone we met to join an MLM business and he likely felt the same.

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