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MLM Bot Watch 37 - Planes, Trainings and Automobiles

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Whiterangey · 02/04/2018 18:22

Brand new thread for a brand new month.

In which this years bonus cheques will be revealed, which is my favourite time of year.

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Norma27 · 14/04/2018 15:11

I’m on a few of the beauty groups. One ‘presenter’ just put up a younique post. Didn’t go down well and taken down within 10 mins. People are starting to get the message I hope.

sshuga · 14/04/2018 15:21

@ReforrmedBot, This is why MLM is so dangerous and destructive. You’re told to dream dream dream and that everything you dream is possible “If you want it enough, stay positive, work the business etc.” Nono of which is true but don’t dare think it’s not because that’s being negative. In all that time spent dreaming and focusing on your dream you become detached from reality. Reality is that seldom does anyone ever achieve a dream that turns out to be exactly what they thought it would be. Let’s say you get the income to afford the big house with the big garden. Now, unless you want to spend a great deal of your time cleaning that house, working in that garden, doing the routine maintenance of keeping up a house, you’re going to need to spend more money paying for others to do all those things. So no matter how you’re earning that income you’re going to need more of it. And don’t forget the increased tax bill or the expense of furnishing that house. Now suppose you’d like to take a trip with your family, none of those expenses are going away. Can you afford all that and the expense of a trip at the same time? And the time off from earning the income to keep it all going?
MLM is nothing but lies on top of lies being told to you to keep you dreaming/wanting. NO one in MLM cares if you don’t achieve your dream as long as you keep dreaming and believing that MLM will get you there.
May I suggest that when you feel a longing for the excitement of the MLM hype, you call up a friend and go out for a tea or a drink and sit and talk with them and relish the fact that you’re not having to think about how you can recruit this person and instead can actually have a meaningful, perhaps even a heartwarming exchange. Share some laughs. Allow yourself to be vulnerable. Connect with another person in a genuine and meaningful way. This is the stuff real dreamy lives are made of, and you can’t buy it at any price.

DoraExplorer99 · 14/04/2018 18:51

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cozietoesie · 14/04/2018 19:00

Dora. Thanks

sshuga · 15/04/2018 00:12

Way to go @Dora! Congratulations!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 15/04/2018 11:39

Is nowhere sacred. I've just seen on fb that a FL bot had a stall at a gin festival FFS!

Clearly they're having to target people in more and more diverse places as people are getting wise to them at school fairs, craft markets etc and these events become saturated with MLMs.

SSDGM · 15/04/2018 12:14

Anyone got the link where it states the new Maëlle makeup isn’t vegan?

YouOKHun · 15/04/2018 12:48

SSDM I saw on a LIVE a recently ex-Maelle bot state this as the reason she’s left (and gone to Limelight Hmm

I think it’s the new skincare range that isn’t vegan. I think the make up is the same as it was.

ArbunneHun · 15/04/2018 13:58

Any news on the ABTA status (or not) of Inteletravel? It was expected to be announced yesterday...

Whiterangey · 15/04/2018 16:05

We know that at least Yawn reads these posts, I guess there are other higher up bots who read these posts as well.

They can read here what they have done to people, and they know what they are doing to people.

They are ruining peoples lives and finances. In some cases they are making it so that Mothers don't have enough money to feed their children properly so the Mums have to rely on food banks. They do this just to get money themselves. Pure selfish greed.

They know they are doing this, they know they are financially crippling women, giving them fake dreams. They know that people have ended up suffering from depression and other mental health problems due to their actions. I've read about ex-bots who have seriously thought about suicide due to financial problems after MLM and feelings of worthlessness.

They know they are doing this, they know it is their thirst for more money and another fucking mention at some pointless flag waving bullshit celebration day that causes this.

They are harming women and they know it, and continue to do it.

Lives are being wrecked.

Just take Reformed's story. It got to me. Judging by the responses here it got to us all. An anonymous stranger on a board who we know nothing about. We don't know her name, we know nothing. Yet we all tried to help, including people sharing their own stories. I'm pretty certain we aren't special, it's a normal response when a fellow human is in distress. You want to help, you want to make them feel better, you don't want others to be hurting.

These higher up bots are partly responsible for causing this.

Obviously the MLM's themselves are also responsible.

I know higher up bots will be reading this and they will know it's true, they will know they are wrecking lives and they will just go and post a photo of their car, or some expensive shit. Or mention bullying, or jealous haters.

I just can't get my head round how they can read this thread and how they can read the abundance of other personal stories of MLM victims and carry on doing what they are doing.

The thing that really gets me though is that some of them are about to lose everything. Sales are dwindling, profits are down, the boom years have ended. That is partially through the efforts of the Anti-MLM people and partially because where social media was responsible for the boom, people are sick of the facebook posts and it's now responsible for the decline. After all these people have done I know for sure i'm going to be sitting here all concerned about their children who will have their lives turned upside down by their lifestyles having to change, maybe having to move schools. While the bots in question would happily recruit me, emotionally blackmail me into spending my money, and wouldn't care about my own children.

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Whiterangey · 15/04/2018 16:11

@ArbunneHun Bots went off to London yesterday. They are blown away and are confident they are in safe hands. So if I was to hazard a guess, i'd guess that they are still an ABTA free zone.

No mention of those 4 letters anywhere.

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DoraExplorer99 · 15/04/2018 16:19

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SSDGM · 15/04/2018 16:20

I may have publicly outed a lipsense seller on a FB Page I Admin for sending unsolicited friend requests to other members. She says she’s just trying to ad to her “network of fierce women”. I’ve said she is “prospecting members and should give over”. Obvs as admin I’ve had a people thinking I’m “cruel” but I couldn’t give a fuck.

ArbunneHun · 15/04/2018 16:40

Yep @Whiterangey. The fact that no one has mentioned it leads me to believe that it’s not happened/happening. But! Apparently 2 Intelebots are already millionaires! Eeeeeek! You only need 4,000 people in your downline to be making millions in recruiting commissions and incentives.

The ABTA membership doesn’t matter a jot. It’s all a big recruitment pyramid: no one sells so much as a train ticket.

Whiterangey · 15/04/2018 17:57

They didn't get it. Just seen an Intelebots page and she says 'So we haven't got everything yet' with a lot of excitement because 'what is coming is far more incredible'.

More incredible than ABTA?

It seems that bots who couldn't make it to London were glued to their phones during the presentation and then training, not sure if they had an audio feed or video or were just awaiting updates from teamies who were there. I've seen people who were desperately waiting for the ABTA information and indicating that the suspense is killing them.

No mention of ABTA after that.

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SSDGM · 15/04/2018 19:59

The only thing that could be coming is ATOL and as they have to pay into a bond, they’re fucked there.

Whiterangey · 15/04/2018 21:27

Who would have to pay into a bond? Is it Inteletravel or the 'Independent Travel Agent'?

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SSDGM · 15/04/2018 22:06

InteleTravel would. Then agents would have to abide my the newest package Travel directives about to be launched, which makes them responsible if anything goes wrong as the principal agent.

SSDGM · 15/04/2018 22:09

An atol bond is around £20,000 and increases as a company handles more passengers.

Full details here:
publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ATOL%20201602%20JUL16.pdf

MLM Bot Watch 37 - Planes, Trainings and Automobiles
Whiterangey · 16/04/2018 00:15

It says on there that for a new ATOL it's 15% of annual public sales revenue but there is a minimum of £50,000. Their rate would be the £50,000 because so far I have seen no holidays sold, so their sales revenue is likely very very very low. Maybe the odd holiday to one of the sales reps.

I would love to know how many holidays are sold by all of the reps per year, I imagine it's shockingly low.

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Whiterangey · 16/04/2018 00:27

I hope bots pay for space when they have trainings in places like cafes and coffee shops.

I read this a while back.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cafe-owners-outrage-group-17-12309725

It does remind me of when some bots utilise businesses for their meetings or trainings of whatever and all you ever see on the tables are cups of coffee, no food, none of the stuff that actually make money for the cafe or coffee shop. Also if I walked into a place and there was someone having a training or a meeting in there, i'd walk straight out and find somewhere else.

I do believe that the group of 17 mentioned in the article were likely having some kind of a 'business' meeting as opposed to 17 friends just meeting in a cafe for a catch up. That would seem a bit strange to have 17 close friends who all know each other and all want to catch up. I think they used it for a meeting room where they knew they could get away with just paying a quid each on a cup of coffee to stay for 3 hours.

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BangingOn · 16/04/2018 06:40

That’s interesting White, they really are pisstakers.

I spend a lot of time having work meetings in hotel receptions, sometimes restaurants or bars, it’s pretty standard in my industry where people work remotely. The difference is there’s only 2-3 of us, we don’t take over the place and we spend plenty of money.

SSDGM · 16/04/2018 08:54

Is anyone else watching the car wreck that is LuLaRoe swiftly going down the toilet? Bounced cheques, people not getting paid, it’s rumoured the designer has quit etc etc. The LuLaRoe Fail FB Page is fascinating at the minute.

Whiterangey · 16/04/2018 09:28

Yes, i'm a Lularoe watcher. It's been fascinating watching an MLM go down like this. Are you are member of the defective page?

It's been obvious for so long that things are going badly that I can't believe consultants are still buying.

I think there will be documentaries, books, and maybe even academic case studies about Lularoe.

I'm hoping there will be some kind of legal repercussions against Deanne and Mark.

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OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 16/04/2018 09:35

I've see a few cafe photos from Networking Mummies groups (led by FL bots) that have resembled what that article describes.