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MLM Bot Watch 37 - Planes, Trainings and Automobiles

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Whiterangey · 02/04/2018 18:22

Brand new thread for a brand new month.

In which this years bonus cheques will be revealed, which is my favourite time of year.

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YouOKHun · 16/04/2018 11:52

Don’t know if anyone is interested but London-based Voice of Islam radio is doing a piece on product/service based pyramid schemes tomorrow in their drive time slot (between 4-6pm but I think it will be discussed between 5-6pm).

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 16/04/2018 13:59

To illustrate a point Yawn has posted photos of the networking Mummies group taking over a cafe this morning.

5 or 6 ladies, a big display sign and rail of clothing taking over several tables and much of the space and all they appear to have bought is a cup of tea/coffee each.

entrepeneur · 16/04/2018 14:56

How do NM franchise owners make their cash if events are free to attend?

cozietoesie · 16/04/2018 15:10

If they're 'free' to attend. It's only in the sense that you can get in the door without paying. Wink

Whiterangey · 16/04/2018 17:29

The franchise owners themselves make no money. They just set up meetings and run a facebook group.

It's meant to be all about sharing tips on how to get your business out there and get customers. From what i've seen the meetings are often used to try and get people to sign up for MLM's. I've seen so many photos of meetings with aloe vera bottles in them, even when the person setting up the meeting isn't in MLM.

I don't really understand where the value for the participants is coming from to be honest. When i've used proper local businesses it's always been through word of mouth or i've seen them talked about on local facebook pages. Friends of the business sharing something from the business is also effective.

I like supporting small businesses and try to do so as often as possible. You do tend to get a much better service from a small business because they care more than a national chain.

With Yawn's group it's for her to try and get new recruits. The fact that when she was asking for business owners in the location where she has her franchise she turned someone down because they were already an FBO.

Networking Mummies itself doesn't appear to make any money judging by companies house. Which isn't surprising to be honest.

The only good thing is the awards, and that is because the tickets cost a lot of money and it all goes to charity. Yawn's table has only sold two tickets, i'm guessing for her and her husband. Hopefully all the tables will get full up. More money for charity that way.

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Whiterangey · 16/04/2018 17:38

I forgot to add that you do pay to start up a franchise, though I don't know how much.

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Norma27 · 16/04/2018 20:11

Anybody fancy going to a Herbalife shake party tomorrow night. Just seen an invite come up on Facebook, Sounds fantastic!

entrepeneur · 16/04/2018 20:57

@Whiterangey If I had paid for a franchise and had the hassle of organising and hosting a monthly meeting, then I'd want to be making some dosh from it, otherwise what is the point? There are usually plenty of free or very low cost business networking events to be found easily in all local communities. Luckily MLMs are not well represented at my local networking events. I give the ArbonneHun a wide berth, I don't think anyone is interested in her products when there are other people there that make their own beauty products. I did meet a TravelBot but she got a lukewarm reception when she introduced her business.

SSDGM · 16/04/2018 21:23

Anyone watching Broke’s live? I’m waiting for him to finish so I can watch from the beginning. Which MLM is he leaving this time? Or is he — NOT — making medical claims again?

SSDGM · 16/04/2018 21:32

He’s been going for 30 mins so far. He’s telling the truth again apparently. What happened to all the other truths? And why isn’t he selling holidays?

entrepeneur · 16/04/2018 22:19

Ahhh he did a 9pm live. Is he taking a leaf out of Messiah's book?

Hang on, is he setting up him own mint-choc-CBD-oil biz?!?!

ArbunneHun · 16/04/2018 22:33

This is finally The One for Broke!

I’m so happy for him.

(I give it 2 months max£

entrepeneur · 16/04/2018 22:37

@arbunnehun Oh I believe him that this one is deffo a keeper. He's never seen anything like it before! And he's even got a badge and rubber wristband Grin

Sean1984 · 16/04/2018 23:53

Does it ever stop with this guy...... from one to another to another to another to another MLM. Most bots seem to say your unsuccesful because you didnt stick with it long enuff( in order words you should piss more money away) ,but he changes MLMs more times than I clip my toe nails!!!Hmm really needs to go away and get a bloody real job and stop taking money of people for piss all

Ladiva1971 · 17/04/2018 00:53

I do feel sorry for his GF If he was my OH I would have kicked his arse out is there any reason he cannot get a real job? He doesn't look like he has ADD, ADHD, BPD and what ever he said he had. I did ask him for a quote on a holiday and I was quoted a price in $ after asking for flights from London and not Manchester I was able to find the holiday for £250 less than he gave me...........................

SSDGM · 17/04/2018 03:05

He’s admitted his pack to join his latest hair brained scheme company has cost £149. With no actual income, plus the withdrawal of benefits for a third child, that must have put the family into some hardship. Why is she tolerating this? Who’s paying his rent? This is his 8th or 9th MLM in a year by my calculations. His losses must be in the thousands by now. Whatever happened to his bitcoin investments?

SSDGM · 17/04/2018 03:25

Sometimes insomnia has its rewards. Found a post from Sleaze last October where he was leasing cars by the week because “they fly a lot and no point owning” - that’s the man who did 12 flights. 12. 6 out, 6 back. Then forward to Feb and he wants suggestions for £60k cars. Now his dream is a £20k car that he in all likelihood won’t get because the scheme will be found to be a Ponzi. (Has anyone brought it to the attention of the FCA yet?).

Also, a huge increase in posts on local buy/sell groups asking for people to “invest” £129 for a £516 reward in days. It’s being denied that it’s a pyramid scheme and is actually a Sou Sou, but you don’t recruit strangers into a Sou Sou. They are usually done in organisations or groups of friends where members reinvest,

Whiterangey · 17/04/2018 04:03

I found it interesting. He was very persuasive. That was a great bit of selling.

He said a lot about his background which made me feel sorry for him, mentioned all of his struggles, and how he has overcome some tough times to get to where he is now.

He was totally 100% honest about his past MLM history, which is rare as nobody in MLM ever says a past MLM was a mistake.

Opening up and being so honest about his past personal life and his past employment history, including MLM's must mean that he is honest, so I know 100% I can trust him now.

The products are great and rather unique by the sounds of it, although I would need more information on that so would need to contact him.

The pre-enroll system is totally new and has never ever been done before, definitely not something that Valentus does, definitely not. You don't have to work, the system does the work for you!

The compensation plan, what can I say? The very lowest thing you get is a tablet or a laptop. A great little perk that is, and that is just the beginning. Did you see all the rest? All those zeros on the end of those numbers where they just give you cash? Wow!

Then a car and expenses plan. All the haters are always on about how in MLM you have to pay your own expenses, not anymore, it's an industry disrupter!

It was an absolutely fantastic example of how people get drawn in to an MLM scheme. He was plausible, he came across as honest, and the compensation plan is amazing. I'm already imagining myself with all those prizes and the expenses credit card and car.

We can all pick it apart and see why he's not going to make any money, again, and his downline aren't going to make any money, again, but they don't see it. He is a good salesman.

He opened up and shared very intimate details of his childhood and young adulthood. This gives people a false sense of security, makes you feel they are trustworthy because they are being so open.

He's admitted his mistakes, which again makes you think he is trustworthy as it takes a lot of guts to say when you've made mistakes, which is something he did actually point out to drive home to his potential signups that he can be trusted.

You can see the same tactics used by everyone in MLM, especially the bigger players. Especially talking about your childhood if it was especially tough and how you've overcome it. It's a trick that Salon uses to her advantage as well.

He talked for over an hour and I can only remember the bits about his tough childhood and growing up. How he has failed in lots of MLM's because he's never found one like this before. How he fell in love with his partner at first sight and it's all been good there for the past 8 years and he's committed and in love and it's all lovely and sweet. Mention of his family, lots of photos of his kids on his profile and they are very adorable. How the compensation plan is awesome, lots of prizes, lots of money other than the commission. You get commission straight away from the first person you sign, and the products are fantastic.

All I took away from that are the things that make him look good and make the 'business' look good.

I've mentioned how trustworthy he came across multiple times in this post because it was the biggest thing I got out of it.

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Norma27 · 17/04/2018 06:38

One of Yawn’s downline is now selling poonique. Can’t tell if she has stopped forever but no mention of it since end of March on her page. Can they do both at same time?
Usual shite about how poonique empowers women. No it bloody doesn’t love.

MLMsuperfan · 17/04/2018 08:45

Broke did virtually the same Difficult Journey talk a month ago when he was pitching Organo.

SSDGM · 17/04/2018 09:02

Yep. This time he missed out quite a lot of detail in his sob story. Marty has been a very naughty boy.

He’s saying he’s made as much in a week with MDC as he did in 6 months with the others? No. He’s a liar. A complete conman.
He might have the gift of the gab but stick him in front of professional salespeople and they would make mincemeat of him. He won’t get a job again because who would employ him?

He’s not honest. 8 years, love at first sight? Until another bot waved her redundancy payout under his nose and he was off down the M6 like a rat up a drainpipe. Then driving around his children in a car with no MOT or insurance. I’m worried for his GF.

As an employer, if a candidate presented themselves as having 8 jobs in a year (obvs, disregarding temping) you would be putting that application to the bottom of the pile.

entrepeneur · 17/04/2018 11:49

I totally understand why people fall for the lure of the lifestyle promised by Yawn and Salon as they sucker people in with the Law of Attraction. However I just cannot comprehend why people fall for the bullshit spouted by Wig, Sleaze and Broke. Nothing about their lifestyle screams lavish, it just stinks of inconsistency where they hop from one MLM to another in search of a buck. Baffling that people are suckered into their Get Rich Quick Schemes. I suppose they prey on the vulnerable as their strategy, whereas Yawn, Uber etc prey on the aspirational.

MLMsuperfan · 17/04/2018 17:56

Right now it seems Broke has either deleted his profile or set it to private.

MLMsuperfan · 17/04/2018 17:59

No wait - his alt account (GF account) says it's been terminated because Evolution travel is a pyramid scheme. He's on a live there saying he'd been suspended too many times from FB so this time he was out.

fitgirl26 · 17/04/2018 18:02

Still waiting for Wig'n'Sleaze to qualify for their car. It's taking them a while considering they are top industry leaders.

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