MLM Bot Watch 23 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.

[ForeverYazoonique]

Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook

NEW Link to the Daily Mail article of 20 May 2016 regarding an ex-bot's treatment at the hands of her 'spline' at Forever Living UK

NEW Link to NastashaBarnbotShingles' refutation of the above.

We have our own regularly returning bots to tell us how bullying and hateful we are.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

Twunk (AKA ForeverYazoonique) has a bottle of Banana Yazoo in her fridge. She's still too afraid to drink it. Yahoo is important as seems to be the primary retail product for Life Tree World.

I just had to google blockchain/ DAO. It's a bit complicated for my brain. I'll just back away and leave it to those more knowledgable to comment on!

It's a bit like the Internet itself, Toobusy. You have to think how it might work out in practice rather than how it's structured in theory. Human nature will remain the biggie, I anticipate.

imfinallyfree great news about your escape .

hopping grrr I hate it when they pretend to support charities in order to get people to buy their crappy products get their CCs up. Most people just donate or offer practical help to charities without the fanfare exploiting friends/family.

Can you imagine their upline at the weekly sizzle or obligatory training session telling everyone to chose a charity, any charity, and announce that if 100 people buy their (for example) lip salve (we actually discussed a bot doing this as an example a couple of weeks ago, I remember) then a small percentage will go to x charity.

I wanted to post on their fb page asking why people didn't just donate £3 (cost of lipsalve) straight to the charity rather than helping bot to make up her monthly CCs. Sadly, I was not able to post a reply . I was in Poundland today and saw that you can get three aloe vera lipsalves for £1. Just sayin'.

cosie Will have my tea before looking into blockchain/the DAO haven't the foggiest what it is lol.

I did my bit for the MLM Resistance today .

I was in one of my favourite tea shops (I have two ) and was sitting sipping a rather delicious rose tea (smoked) when my eyes espied a pile of leaflets, left for customers to peruse.

The picture on the front of one of the leaflets caught my eye; a photo of a tummy with a thing wrapped around it. Could it be, surely not, in my tea shop FFS, ItWorks leaflets!!

Apparently, this is what it does...

Eliminates:
Bingo Wings
Back Fat
Boobs (DH wasn't happy about that one, I won't be allowed to use it )
Double Chins (I have four, no less and have cultivated them carefully over the years )
Muffin Tops
and Thighs, yes it eliminates thighs (what will be do without them, I wonder?)

Tightens tones and firms in as little as 45 minutes

There are two other pics on the reverse of the leaflet, one showing a woman's side view of tummy where she is obviously pushing it out like mad, the second, the "after" one where she is sucking it right in .

Obviously, I had to save my fellow tea drinkers from a fate worse than death, so I surreptitiously placed my kindle over the pile and deftly removed the lot into my bag.

Explained what I'd done to DB (yes, his eyes did glaze over a bit) and mused about a ritual burning of the offending literature. But I'll have my tea first, I think .

It is a rare treat that I come in to direct contact with an MLM. The other weekend I saw a FL stall in my High Street .

You need to print out some TV or BW stuff, go back to the tea shop and leave that lying/offer it to the staff.

Hey, that is a brilliant idea, cozie .

I can going you now, I have a Younique Bot on my FB but she is not massively active, I found some Aloe Vera shit in our work fridge and I was actively pursued at a craft fair by more FL people, which made me quite uncomfortable

Good to see you on the thread, Five. Was it one stall or were the adherents more 'free-ranging'?

Welcome Five. You sound very qualified to join us!

Well done stopfaffing. Do you have any of those leaflets left? I'm looking into wrap claims and they are hilarious. The claims do not stand up to even a brief investigation. If you could get a photo of it over to Bot Watch, I would be most grateful.

There was a stall there, not sure what FL was doing at a craft fair to be honest, the ones who approached me were above her in the pyramid and they were there to support her, vey little interest in the stall. They were try gin to say that there essential oils would be great for my soaps, unfortunately I get my oils from elsewhere and my safety certificates are based on that so they are on a losing wicket. I can't believe how intense they were, very odd couple!

Just done a wee google about block chains. While the decentralized aspect fits in with mlm culture, the public record nature of it probably wouldn't sit quite so neatly, as dao touts itself as an immutable record

Here are screen shots of the leaflet, and one of me with my tea and leaflets .

Toobusy have sent them to BotWatch as message .

As I guessed. I am now being guilt tripped into staying with the MLM (it's not working)

Well done.

Once you actually see things, it's almost impossible to 'unsee' them. That goes for stratagems and ploys as well.

Uh oh one of my bots has invested in a 'pro planner' (looks like an A4 diary?)

Oh that will be the sideline of a major bot sponge

Thanks stopfaffing. I think that leaflet may be one for the ASA, it is so stupidly misleading.

Looking through my fb fl bots' Birmingham photos and having two opposing thoughts

1. This is blooming hilarious, recognition for selling toiletries. Seriously?!
2. I feel quite sad. There must be somnething really lacking in these peoples lives in order for them to fake such an insignificant achievement

Then it hits me... I finally understand the meaning of tragicomic

I agree keep, and when I look at the pictures I imagine my work making me get up on stage wearing a sash each time I've been promoted, or making me get my annual bonus in the form of a giant cheque which I have to wave around on stage so that EVERYONE knows exactly how much I got! I'd be flippin' mortified, I think it would be enough to make me find a new employer!

Any cracks in the certainty will likely be plastered up with exhortations like 'You've got to do it for the team!' though.

It's all 'Win one for the Gipper' stuff.

My local FL bot was at the Sucks-arse Day, waving around the same big (in size, not amount) cheque she got in South Africa. She did seem ridiculously excited by it, lots of eeeeeeking and stuff.
I did notice that Ariix had a 'School of Sucks-arse' event on Saturday as well. That can't be a coincidence.

Yep kamchatka23 on Saturday (and a couple of days before) Ariix infiltrated the fabulous country show i attended earlier in the week. I kept an eye out for aloe crap in the equestrian section but didn't go anywhere near the shops etc; turns out under the guise of a pampering stall they were pushing Moa and the rest of the wampum. It reminded me of being offered a "theraputic massage" in Plymouth city centre in the late 1990's - turns out it was the Scientolo**s trying to engram me!

For diplomatic reasons (!) I've been giving the Ariix bot I know the benefit of the doubt recently, but they've been twisting the content of that BBC programme about food from the other day to fit their supplement agenda. Counting to 10 isn't working.

Oh Darcey you pretest too much, you'd love it. If I was a feminist, I'd suggest it's degrading to women, prancing around on stage in a sash as if it's some sort of beauty pageant. Hardly screams serious business achievement.

There's a local FL bot that lives near me and has the White 4x4 and collected a $4.5k level 1 chairmans bonus in SA plus a similar one last year. She left her full time career with a decent wage nearly 4 years ago and her husband left his at Xmas. She is always smiling and lives in a £400k house with a decent sized mortgage (had the house since before FL) plus kid at college. What sort of money must they be earning to sustain that for the last 4 years? Facebook is always showing events including the Birmingham one this weekend. How much are these events?

I have read Merchants of Deception and lots of stuff about MLMs over the years plus was involved in Amway for a month about 20 years ago. Will it come crashing down soon?

Fascinates me!