MLM Bot Watch 17- chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

[Toobusytowee]

A brief history of the threads so far-

A few people were bemused at their friends' strange personality changes when they joined MLMs.
Eyespying told us they were tragicomic, thought stopping cultic racketeers.
We told him to go away, he was clearly obsessed, and can he go to his own serious thread?
We delved a bit deeper into the issues.
Eyes started creeping back. We told him he was too serious.
We became more horrified at the information being turned up and were sharing links.
Eyes told us aboutMerchants of Deception.
Timeless Vie was set up as a parody about MLMs.[[www.facebook.com/timelessvie
Facebook,]] Twitter, blog, Instagram and YouTube were all used.
People started coming forward, telling of their experiences in MLMs.
We became more horrified.
Bot Watch started on Facebook where links were put up of interest to do with MLMs.
Botwatchblog started and produced factual analysis of the discussions from MN.
MLM members (bots) waded in saying it was all ok. You can earn great money. You just have to work 19 hours a day and not worry about morals.
Bots complained about their names being used. Their lawyers complained to MNHQ so that MN now do not allow us to use bots' names or show screengrabs of their writings even if it is in the public domain.
Blogs and FB posts increased, with the increasing amount of facts and whistleblowers coming forward.
FL lawyer tried to get TV YouTube video banned.
Bots claimed we were bullying them because we were asking them questions they couldn't answer. we were called middle aged women and accused of being drug dealers.
It got a bit nasty so we ate some cheese for a bit and they went away.
Health claims from FL bots now reducing dramatically as a result of pestering from all of us.
We stopped telling Eyes he was too serious. We all started thinking in his language and realised he was right.
Eyes turned out to be very funny and entertained us all.
Sunday Times article produced exposing FL. With a little help from people here.
Lawyers still persisting in trying to ban TV's videos.

Some links of interest-
A factsheet aimed at people considering joining an MLM or who have just done so, to warn them of some facts. tinyurl.com/ha6sgxw

A film of herbalife victims describing what it is like in their MLM-

A film on how to spot a pyramid scheme-

A comedy review of an MLM product- www.youtu.be/4yr_etbfZtQ

Loving the latest Timeless Vie Younique article.

Quick reminder of the URLs

www.facebook.com/timelessvie/

Or

timelessvie.wordpress.com/

Bot watch can be found here:

www.facebook.com/liestopper/

Eyes blog:

mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.nl/?m=1

Great news *toobusy^

A younique bot I know has just given up. Claims life is too busy but she doesn't have another job. She has been selling a lot of stuff e.g. furniture on local FB selling pages and downsized to a smaller house. She's not really a friend, we've only spoken a couple of times but I hope she's ok. Another bot in our area has posted 'big thanks Bot1 for letting me take over your customers hun'. Rubbing hands with glee.

Gottalove, life probably is too busy when you are in an MLM. Remember if you want to earn anything at all you have to put in 15-19 hours a day with no days off.

Toobusy you mean it doesn't just take 8-10 hours a week posting on Facebook

Hi everyone, could anyone tell me if K life is MLM?
A friend just started flogging it.
Thank you.

toobusy that's fantastic news

Made it through 8 pages. Really appreciate all the hard work and research. This has probably been done on one of the other threads but I thought some may be interested in this link www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/

Toobusy you're probably right. To be honest life IS busy with kids even with no job (I do have a job but yes, as a SAHM you would be busy too). I do feel for my bot. She has clearly been duped :(

Felicity excellent link, thanks for posting . Bears out exactly what we have been saying and explains exactly why we are campaigning against MLM.

gaggiagirl k life is Kleeneze so yes it is another mlm unfortunately.

great stuff toobusy, keep going.

hey guys, we're looking for people who would like to help TV with a crowd-sourcing project. Will be fairly mundane task but by working together we hope to produce something big. PM us, email us etc if you're interested in joining in. Thanks huns!

There's a "life tree world" person posting on the Freelancers board.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/freelancers/2607041-Life-Tree-World?watched=1&msgid=60276787#60276787

Independent Business Operator MY ARSE.

From what I've read of this shower they're even more dodgy than FL and that crowd. You pay to join, have to commit to buying a certain amount of overpriced groceries each month and someone on a Netmums thread worked out that in order to achieve the income they're advertising, you'd have to have everyone in Europe in your downline.

well, come on. i mean overpriced groceries? who wouldn't wanna?

More scary is that they're a home-grown pyramid. No Utah coltishness here. They have a very poorly written website and are located in the glamorous location of ... the Levenshulme Trading Estate in Manchester.

no prices for their products. surprise, surprise.

they really look like a rip-off of Lyoness.

i bet their prices are horrendous. would have to be to cover all the upline/downline/sidelines/underlines

Am I allowed to link to threads on other forums? There was a woman on Netmums who joined LifeTreeWorld and came to her senses very quickly - they wouldn't give her the money back despite the 14 day distance selling thing.

www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/working-childcare-692/working-yourself-self-employed-76/wfy-discussion-ideas-research-79/1444578-life-tree-world-whats-like.html

Ethan Vanderbuilt has a new video, this time about [ [Jeunesse]].

He mentions that Alex Morton who was with the ill-fated Vemma jumped ship and joined founders Randy Ray and Wendy Lewis (who had previously ran an MLM company called Forever Freedom International) to peddle this skincare range.

is a short video featuring Alex talking about his leaving of Vemma to Jeunesse, warning you will need tissues; it's emotional .

I see Helen D from NM is posting on this thread too - hello Helen D!!

Sorry, correct link to Ethan's video

It's a whole new language 'automatic tree concept' 'passive income' what do they mean? But remember you can get all your shopping for free if you do it through them.

Passive income = recruit people into the pyramid beneath you, and earn off them. Or not, as the case may be. It is very, very dodgy. Can't quite believe they are members of the DSA, or do they just let anyone join?

(As an aside, I remember way, way back, probably about 2000, desperately trying to convince a gullible colleague not to spend £250 she couldn't afford on a "heart" to get into a Women Empowering Women pyramid scheme. It saddens me that in 16 years we've not really moved on).

cazzy thankyou! I was offered the catalogue today while my bot stood over me watching. The prices are eye watering!