MLM Bot Watch 17- chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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A brief history of the threads so far-

A few people were bemused at their friends' strange personality changes when they joined MLMs.
Eyespying told us they were tragicomic, thought stopping cultic racketeers.
We told him to go away, he was clearly obsessed, and can he go to his own serious thread?
We delved a bit deeper into the issues.
Eyes started creeping back. We told him he was too serious.
We became more horrified at the information being turned up and were sharing links.
Eyes told us aboutMerchants of Deception.
Timeless Vie was set up as a parody about MLMs.[[www.facebook.com/timelessvie
Facebook,]] Twitter, blog, Instagram and YouTube were all used.
People started coming forward, telling of their experiences in MLMs.
We became more horrified.
Bot Watch started on Facebook where links were put up of interest to do with MLMs.
Botwatchblog started and produced factual analysis of the discussions from MN.
MLM members (bots) waded in saying it was all ok. You can earn great money. You just have to work 19 hours a day and not worry about morals.
Bots complained about their names being used. Their lawyers complained to MNHQ so that MN now do not allow us to use bots' names or show screengrabs of their writings even if it is in the public domain.
Blogs and FB posts increased, with the increasing amount of facts and whistleblowers coming forward.
FL lawyer tried to get TV YouTube video banned.
Bots claimed we were bullying them because we were asking them questions they couldn't answer. we were called middle aged women and accused of being drug dealers.
It got a bit nasty so we ate some cheese for a bit and they went away.
Health claims from FL bots now reducing dramatically as a result of pestering from all of us.
We stopped telling Eyes he was too serious. We all started thinking in his language and realised he was right.
Eyes turned out to be very funny and entertained us all.
Sunday Times article produced exposing FL. With a little help from people here.
Lawyers still persisting in trying to ban TV's videos.

Some links of interest-
A factsheet aimed at people considering joining an MLM or who have just done so, to warn them of some facts. tinyurl.com/ha6sgxw

A film of herbalife victims describing what it is like in their MLM-

A film on how to spot a pyramid scheme-

A comedy review of an MLM product- www.youtu.be/4yr_etbfZtQ

'MLM Freedom' is Slavery.

It doesn't sound 'melodramatic' from this end, Geeze.

Welcome to the thread by the way.

I may actually read 1984 again, Eye. It's been a couple of years.

GeezeLouiseBelcher Thanks for your valuable, and insightful, input. 'MLM' cults are divisive, but self-righteous 'MLM' Bots stand reality on its head and are totally convinced that it's 'negative haters' (like us), who are divisive.

Unfortunately, if you refuse to play their pay-through-the-nose game of make-believe and challenge it as a fraud , 'MLM' Bots have been programmed to expect you also to say that you hate them and their groups.

...chicken list...??

cozietoesie

'Animal Farm' is perhaps the more appropriate allegory of 'MLM' cults. I think the Appendix to 'Nineteen Eighty-Four,' containing the explanation of 'Newspeak,' is the most interesting part of the book in respect of cultism.

'Chicken List' is a classic 'MLM' cultic inversion of reality. It's used in almost all 'MLM' cults.

In this way, 'MLM' Bots have been programmed falsely to believe that they are cowards for using their critical faculties.

The fact that Bots are scared to approach a certain type of wordly-wise person should ring loud alarm bells in their minds, but these systems have been short-circuited by the constant repetition of the thought-stopping jargon phrase: 'Chicken List'.

So it's partly you who might be 'chicken' ??

I guess the aim is to get that list down to zero??

Out of interest, Cubic, just how hard do uplines try with people? (I would have imagined that there are a high proportion that they just wash their hands of fairly quickly as 'not profitable'. How quickly can they 'turn' if you're not a 'team player'? )

'Newspeak' is certainly a fascinating topic, Eye. I wish that more people would read about it.

I wonder why bots don't just do B2B sales for legit companies (or even normal sales). They'd make far more money and be able to switch off at night or on weekends!

You said it, Geeze.

Realistically these people on the chicken list are going to say no, because they're not going to be won over by the holidays and car plans when they already have such things, so why encourage people to target them? It's desperate really.

Why are people not allowed to say 'actually I know that this person won't want to because they're already busy and enjoy their job'? That is allowed! That is common sense. Why do you HAVE to target everyone? This is the reason people are starting to detest the industry. Why the heck are you a "chicken" for KNOWING someone simply doesn't want this!

As you say about them needing to get over themselves cubic, it's like they want you to completely throw all logic to the wind.

People can think for themselves.... unless they're in MLM.

'MLM Freedom' is Slavery.
Eyes this is what my DH said when we were talking about FL

Just catching up - I have had to name change

Welcome back, Cloud.

It's so difficult for individuals who have little perspective, Patzy.

I guess they may think that it's easy at the start when they still have friends and family to prospect - but then reality strikes.

The reality of 'sales and recruitment' that is. Unfortunately, I imagine that they're often already in deep in other ways.

place marking, hi again everyone, i've been watching quietly with interest but haven't had much to contribute

Good to have you reading, crazycatlady.