MLM Bot Watch 17- chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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A brief history of the threads so far-

A few people were bemused at their friends' strange personality changes when they joined MLMs.
Eyespying told us they were tragicomic, thought stopping cultic racketeers.
We told him to go away, he was clearly obsessed, and can he go to his own serious thread?
We delved a bit deeper into the issues.
Eyes started creeping back. We told him he was too serious.
We became more horrified at the information being turned up and were sharing links.
Eyes told us aboutMerchants of Deception.
Timeless Vie was set up as a parody about MLMs.[[www.facebook.com/timelessvie
Facebook,]] Twitter, blog, Instagram and YouTube were all used.
People started coming forward, telling of their experiences in MLMs.
We became more horrified.
Bot Watch started on Facebook where links were put up of interest to do with MLMs.
Botwatchblog started and produced factual analysis of the discussions from MN.
MLM members (bots) waded in saying it was all ok. You can earn great money. You just have to work 19 hours a day and not worry about morals.
Bots complained about their names being used. Their lawyers complained to MNHQ so that MN now do not allow us to use bots' names or show screengrabs of their writings even if it is in the public domain.
Blogs and FB posts increased, with the increasing amount of facts and whistleblowers coming forward.
FL lawyer tried to get TV YouTube video banned.
Bots claimed we were bullying them because we were asking them questions they couldn't answer. we were called middle aged women and accused of being drug dealers.
It got a bit nasty so we ate some cheese for a bit and they went away.
Health claims from FL bots now reducing dramatically as a result of pestering from all of us.
We stopped telling Eyes he was too serious. We all started thinking in his language and realised he was right.
Eyes turned out to be very funny and entertained us all.
Sunday Times article produced exposing FL. With a little help from people here.
Lawyers still persisting in trying to ban TV's videos.

Some links of interest-
A factsheet aimed at people considering joining an MLM or who have just done so, to warn them of some facts. tinyurl.com/ha6sgxw

A film of herbalife victims describing what it is like in their MLM-

A film on how to spot a pyramid scheme-

A comedy review of an MLM product- www.youtu.be/4yr_etbfZtQ

Going back to Botofspother's post that is about to disappear - I'm sure MLM makes LOTS of millionaires - just none of them are Bots.

Fair point. They clearly make a lot of $$$. From somewhere to somewhere with some .......diversion........ of a little to a favoured few.

amlmskeptic.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/mlm-mythbusting-no-mlm-did-not-create.html?m=1

www.lazymanandmoney.com/no-your-mlm-health-product-does-not-work/

Just dumping this link and running as I have to go to my j.o.b.

Sexy Rexy is definitely a millionaire for example. And he grows Aloe too - who'd have thunk it?

I'm sure you'd exclude Extract du parslai from that though, throwing?

I have deep belief in that stuff.

Thanks Darcey for that link! Does FL actually claim any millionaires? (in £ or even $)

Love the LazyMan link Throwing

Saw this in it (from Wikipedia):

"Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the 'ingroup' produces an 'illusion of invulnerability' (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the 'ingroup' significantly overrates their own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of their opponents (the 'outgroup')."

Oh shit just thought - do we groupthink? (We need to agree on this)

Well. Speaking as the group...........

Are you our leader Cozie?

Tell me

• how many times per week do you work in your PJs?
• how many times do you work with a glass of wine?
• how often do you sizzle?
• do you have a large white car?

I did have a large white car once upon a time. (I may have mentioned this.) As I recall, it was a devil to keep clean and a magnet for attention from Our City's Finest. Oh - and expensive to run!

Thank Goodness it went years ago.

Why they seem to be such a draw for adherents, I'll never know.

I have a large silvery blue car. It's lovely.

White shows us the purity of the business owners and reflects their glory for other road users to bask in. It represents good in the age old battle of good (MLM) v evil (middle aged keyboard warriors). It also influences the mindset to to help people stay positive when amongst the heathens.

Also it's one of the cheapest paint jobs ;)

Leanne too right Suffolk does have a very dark and sinister side as well

I do my best

'MLM' trophy-cars - also available in black in the USA

and red in Thailand

This lucky 'MLM' shill Bot got an Audi in the colour of shit, which was quite appropriate seeing as it came via the (now-defunct) 'Wake Up Now' cult.

I'd noticed that other countries seem to get different coloured 'trophy' cars.

I wonder whether all the yellow is meant to help in influencing Chinese regulators?

cozietoesie Irony perhaps?, because, in respect of 'MLM' racketeering, most so-called regulators have had a yellow streak.

Yellow is viewed very differently in China as you'll know.

Eek I am so excited huns I have had an invite to a FL FB party! I shall attend and see what drivel is spouted. I reckon such "parties" could be prime opportunities to give medical claims - I feel some screenshots coming on!

cozietoesie A couple of very angry American guys wrote to me last year. They had watched in shock as a close friend turned into a jargon-spouting 'MLM' Bot. They were at a complete loss to know how it was possible for such obvious pyramid schemes to be legal.

In response I sent them this link below (which is sound only) and explained that the FTC closed down Exquinox, but has completely ignored hundreds of essentially identical 'MLM' rackets. I also suggested that they should file complaints with the FTC and write to their political representative.

As far as I'm aware, these guys did neither. They sent me an e-mail stating that Congress and the FTC are both full of crooks and cowards.

Gosh, Windy.

I don't know how you'll manage to contain yourself.

Thanks, Eye.

OK - in view of Zuckerberg's announcement, any thoughts on how neural imprinting is going to impact on MLM activity?

(I'd be guessing that there are several MLM blue sky thinkers and R&D divisions on it right now.)

My bot's recruitment video (public for viewing)

Recruitment video