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MLM Bot Watch 15- Chat about the Scamalasmical cultic racket of MLMs Forever Living, Juiceplus , Ariix, Younique, (insert name of Utah MLM here) now including hunpreneurs, cheese, posts from eyes

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DollyTwat · 16/03/2016 00:16

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Twunk · 17/03/2016 23:28

Ah yes but Natasha earns mega-bucks so everyone does! It's ALL GOOD! Even if you're in Uganda. Hmm

There's so much money to go round because literally everyone in the universe is buying overpriced Aloe Vera (or makeup, or body wraps or other me-too items). Everyone makes money! Yay!!

workingwithchimps · 17/03/2016 23:29

Jeez.. I (we) go away for the evening and come back to the 3rd World - what we doing tonight raising money to pay for medicine, clean water and clothing?

Eyespying · 17/03/2016 23:29

'Did you just compare the holocaust to a network marketing business??? '

Only a foolish 'MLM' Bot would seek to confuse my general use of the word 'holocaust' (with a small 'h') with the very specific term, 'the Holocaust' (with a capital 'H'). That's why I always very carefully qualify my use of this word by putting 'with a small 'h' ' in brackets after it.

workingwithchimps · 17/03/2016 23:30

And can I ask what the collective opinion of MLM in Africa happens to be here?..

Patzy85 · 17/03/2016 23:33

Chimps if you don't understand the Uganda debate then simply don't comment. At least Natasha had the common sense to just hold her hands up and say she didn't know enough to comment, you should take a leaf out of her book!

Collective opinion is exploitation.

cozietoesie · 17/03/2016 23:34

I would welcome views on the website Pinktruth. Smile Especially from those who have gone/are considering going into MLMs to 'obtain some product discount/ earn just a little extra'. Some very interesting posts there.

kamchatka23 · 17/03/2016 23:36

It's not exactly hard to find information about the problems MLM's are causing in Uganda for instance, is it?
www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1314396/network-marketing-sucking-billions-ugandans

Eyespying · 17/03/2016 23:38

It is quite an important question and one which very few people have asked, let alone tried to answer:

Given the staggering number of individuals, families and communities it has infected around the globe, and the ammount of financial, social and psychological damage it has caused, what words would be appropriate to describe the overall, blame-the-victim 'MLM' cult phenomenon?

workingwithchimps · 17/03/2016 23:42

Why you say that Patzy? - Do you have some list of people exploited over there? Or a video to post showing how MLM has decimated life out there? - You offer an independent review from a journalist that you expect the world to believe is parity - in a country that was ravaged and pillaged by us the English - and then left to a despot who committed genocide on his own people. If we are going to go through African countries - how many other African countries have been invaded by foreign countries - for minerals, oil and wealth seized in the name of their respective kingdoms - way before MLM was even a dream - the collective impact on the continent is now there for all to see.... please don't let's get all high, mighty and moralistic about a continent that we as a nation have chosen to forget and ignore because they became too much effort for us to control. (BTW my thesis at Uni was along the same vein)

MimsyPimsy · 17/03/2016 23:45

I'm a little behind today, but I watched that video before it was "privatised". It was uploaded in August last year. For those who haven't seen it, the presenter was amazingly successful at retail sales. However, she was advised "you can put people off by doing too much retail!" In other words, the money is in the recruiting, and not in the "wampum", as Eyes would say.

Why has the woman (a successful businesswoman) now deleted all references to her Forever career? I've Googled her, but links come up as no longer existing. And why did she ask someone else to defend her on this thread rather than posting herself? Is it because she feels she doesn't want to be associated with Forever? Hmm If so, why would that be?

Natasha, maybe you might want to think about that, and why you were the fall guy. Maybe she would like to be a guest on this thread, too, so we could ask her?

cozietoesie · 17/03/2016 23:47

No - I wouldn't attempt to answer it. Just the UK manifestations are enough to almost hurt my brain.

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 17/03/2016 23:49

twunk

Now now.... No need for that! I certainly do not earn mega bucks!! Although that depends on your idea of mega bucks I suppose!
I did have a tiny moment of inner smugness when my name was mentioned in the same sentence as many "big bots" ..... Silent moment of utter disbelief! Infact I'd go so far as to say that felt better than any moment on stage being clapped!

But mega bucks.... No! As I've said before I'm just a single mum at the bottom of a long standing MLM earning good money. No more than that!

eyes

I'll be sure to point out to the millions affected by the holocaust (the real one) that as long as it's written with small letters and then compared to network marketing it really isn't at all Offensive or Flipant... (Note the capital letters showing I mean the actual word offensive and the actual word Flipant... It's important as if I put small letters at the start it means something completely different.... Apparently! 🙄

Twunk · 17/03/2016 23:49

Ah right - it's ok for forever to exploit an underdeveloped country like Uganda "because colonialism"

Really?

Eyespying · 17/03/2016 23:50

WWC is now giving us a fabulous exhibition of Orwellian doublethink. I mean, how dare we criticise 'Mormon'-owned cultic rackets operating in poor African states, when we are all the vile decendants of colonialists and slave owners?

Patzy85 · 17/03/2016 23:52

So basically, it's fine to exploit them because we gave up on them ages ago? Shock That's nice.

Since the threads are about MLM and there has been a lot of information revealed about the infiltration of FL over there and the impact it has had I think we can have a say on it.

workingwithchimps · 17/03/2016 23:55

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cozietoesie · 17/03/2016 23:58

I think we not only can but should discuss the impact of MLM activity in other countries, Patzy. Smile

workingwithchimps · 18/03/2016 00:01

Patzy - can I ask what have YOU actually done for the people in Africa that you feel you have a right to voice whether MLM companies are bad for their existence? Like I said it's great that you want to stand up for the right and views of the 3rd World countries - but simply spouting on here what FL for example has done shows no parity - unless you fine bunch of people have done something that is now being threatened by the rise of MLM's on the continent.?

Eyespying · 18/03/2016 00:01

'I'll be sure to point out to the millions affected by the holocaust (the real one) that as long as it's written with small letters and then compared to network marketing it really isn't at all Offensive or Flipant... (Note the capital letters showing I mean the actual word offensive and the actual word Flipant... It's important as if I put small letters at the start it means something completely different.... Apparently'

Natasha Shingles continues to seek to confuse my use of the general word 'holocaust' (with a smal l'h'), with a very specific term the Holocaust (with a capital 'H').

With an irony close to exquisite, Natasha Shingles is a classic denier of the 'MLM' financial, social and psychological holocaust (with a small 'h'). I personally find her comments on these threads to be highly offensive and flipant.

Lurkylurker · 18/03/2016 00:03

I see my friends have arrived again so I will leave you all with something to think about. Smile If Natasha doesn't know her friends buiness, literally (the lady in question registered it as a company, in case you didn't know that) then how does she know that she isn't chimps? I mean, what if it is just bantz? Hmm I find that your attitude on these threads changed as soon as I appeared. You came here just to attack and shout everyone down, as if your little fact made these threads less credible. When I pointed out that you were wrong Blush you have changed entirely. No more rudeness or aggression. Now you're just here to play nicebot. Hmm I wonder.......

workingwithchimps · 18/03/2016 00:05

Cozietoes - can I have YOUR views on the impact that the British had on many African countries in the past? - How do you stand on slavery for instance - a belief system devised and perpetrated by the English and American on a continent of millions...

kamchatka23 · 18/03/2016 00:06

You're making a big assumption about where my forefathers are actually from for a start, aren't you? Apart from that, I think the term for what you're doing here is 'whataboutery' - a common tactic used for deflection.

Eyespying · 18/03/2016 00:07

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workingwithchimps · 18/03/2016 00:09

kamchatka23 - if my assumptions are incorrect - I apologise, I was being generalist because apart from the non-existent list, we are all anonymous right? - still what are your views on it?

Patzy85 · 18/03/2016 00:10

Chimps - I haven't personally saved any whales from seaworld but it doesn't mean I don't want that shit to stop either.

Jesus! Do I honestly have to list all the charitable things I have done for Africa (which I have done) just to be approved an opinion by YOU!