MLM-BOT WATCH - continuing the talk about Juice +, Forever Living YOunique Arbonne

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Our very own Fake MN MLM is here:

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continue the chat, Botwatchers!

Utterly awesome post Last. Bang on scam on

Has anyone mentioned herbal life so far? They have well and truly sucked in a lovely but naive ex colleague of mine. She's practically a poster girl for them now. No discernible life outside their "training" (every weekend?!) rallies, team calls and promo work. Utterly brainwashed

CS's facebook page is not available again. She's clearly "switching it off" overnight as that's 2 nights in a row.

Wonder what she's worried about?

Couple of things on a bot's page.

People want praise more than money.... Nope that's not true for me. I want a pension, mat pay and guaranteed monthly income cheers.

The other pic being some drivel about alkaline crap.

Just sharing pearls of training wisdom accrued over many months, applicable to most mlms.

"Creating connections - on holiday, sports clubs, slimming clubs, fundraisers, jobs fairs, school gate, gyms, out & about, retail events.

Talk to people - how are they? Find out more about them. Use FORM :
F - their family/home life
O - Occupation
R - recreation/hobbies
M - message (get it across)

Sample Qs include - How's it going at work? are you still happy? Can you see yourself doing what you're doing now for the rest of your life?

Build a strategy for finding prospects - map out own social networks.

Find a hook - jaded executive, returning mum, graduates, public sector workers (low morale) ex-military, retiree, business people.

Share your story - tip: keep it brief, upbeat & positive. Compile your 30 second elevator story e.g 'I work as a .... yet I'm much more excited & involved with building my part time business that I've got started as it's really changing things for the better for me'.

Watch your attitude - every picture tells a story, be aware of what you are projecting, what picture are you painting."

I'm sure other exbots have reams of this stuff too.

whirlybird this was posted on one of the earlier threads, but here is average distributor turnover (before expenses).... Shows it in stark terms how little people are making (when expenses are taken into account likely to be a loss)

iamherbalife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/StatementOfAverageGrossCompensation.pdf

whirlybird42 - 'Herbalife' is an 'Amway' copy-cat blame the victim 'MLM income opportunity' cultic racket.

Are you aware that 'Herbalife' is currently under federal and state investigation in the USA? The current interest was sparked when a Wall St. Hedge fund manager, Bill Ackman, was approached by researchers who had found the analyses (including my own) of 'Herbalife' as a fraud freely available on the Net. 'Herbalife' is a publicly traded company, so Ackman has short sold its stock (to the tune of $2 billions) - in effect gambling that the US regulators would look at his own presentation and close 'Herbalife.'

3 years later 'Herbalife' is still standing and Ackman (who has been savagely attacked by 'MLM' propagandist) now reasons that the 'Herbalife' fraud will collapse by itself, because soon it won't be able to find fresh victims. So far more than 1000 'Herbalife' victims have come forward in the USA to complain to the FTC the FBI and various state Attorney Generals. The mainstream media has been virtually nowhere to be seen.

Bovnydazzlers - that flbot post about the gel is not compliant, tell them and report it to FLP. Any posting about products should be worded as per the product brochure to ensure compliance. This one's gone off piste!

Dawn, I think I'm busy that day.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/qls-6-figure-earners-training-with-jayne-leach-john-curtis-tickets-21029612136?access=AndyW

eyes oh yes, I've been keeping tabs on other mlms particularly Herbalife & Vemma.

*Damn, not Dawn

penny1ane 8 long hours! Plus the costs. No thanks.

Mootpointer When US law enforcement agents recently closed the 'Vemma' racket (before even going to trial), they boasted that it was one of the biggest scams operating in the USA, and that it was particularly insidious, because it had been preying on vulnerable students. The twits failed to mention that there are approximately 1400 essetially identical 'MLM income opportunity' rackets legally registered in the USA which have been allowed to thieve from tens of millions of citizens for decades, or that tackling 'MLM' rackets individually has been a complete waste of time and US tax-payers' money.

Have you also looked at 'MLM' cultic rackets that now insist they are not 'MLMs,' like 'Lyoness?'

You can hide this type of criminal enterprise behind almost any 'commercial' camouflage.

But moot, did you miss the bit that says it's WORLD CLASS training that is UNMISSABLE?

It could change our lives!!
I'll put your name down, shotgun not driving.

Superb post at TV blog, well done. Again!

moot - "Sample Qs include - How's it going at work? are you still happy? Can you see yourself doing what you're doing now for the rest of your life?"

this is exactly, word for word, how my bot first approached me about FL. Every time she contacts me now - which is approximately every 3 months - her text message starts with 'Hi Fintan, how's work going?'. This is a person who was my closest friend for 25 years!

eyespying you need to make a Netflix documentary!

US law enforcement agents also failed to mention that a significant number of their former colleagues have all gone to work for 'MLM income opportunity' racketeers.

Currently, a former US Trade Commisioner, Pamela Jones-Harbour, is employed by the 'Herbalife' mob, but it's not known how much stolen money she is being paid.

During the Reagan and Bush administrations, the senior ranks of the US FTC became infested with apologists for 'MLM' racketeers. At one time, the Chairman of the FTC, Timothy Muris, was one of 'Amway's' attorneys.

This is racketeering and corruption on an almost unprecedented scale.

Fintan - Essentially, the recruitment technique is to paint a menacing picture of doom (the traditional world of work for 45 years, then a miserable retirement pension) versus salvation (the 'MLM Utopia of total financial freedom in just 2-5 years').

'MLM' can be described as a very sopshisticated protection racket, in which vulnerable victims are made an offer they can't refuse.

I've been a lurker on this thread - but in my FB news feed a friend has just liked one of EC's recruits posts about a sleepover in the 'castle' next weekend. So naturally, I've had a nosey at her (completely open) FB profile. FL are supposedly sending her and her family to either SA or the UAE on a free trip... yeah right!

Its so over the top isnt it? Yes we know its all lies,fraud and deceit but all these manky, sweaty boiler room holidays away. They are just shitty success days with palm trees and sand. Execpt you don't see the palm trees and sand. You don't get time as your too busy getting brain washed!

Its not expenses paid. Its ridiculous.

I think TV need to do a piss take and say they are going on an all expenses paid "holledeh" to "benidarrrm!".

FrogletinaBallerina EC is currently being sent all over the Globe in the classic 'MLM' shill role of ordinary poor human: turned superhuman.

Where all the money is actually comng from to pay for EC's unoriginal 'MLM' fairy story, has not been fully disclosed. It's certainly not been coming from where she claims it has been coming from.

In this classic 'Prosperity Gospel' cult, shills like EC are *the living proof that there is a secret 'Mindset' knowledge which can enable any poor human to transform into a superhuman.

EC has been promoting a classic advance fee fraud by insisting that her own 'Mindset Master/Mentor,' Dave O'Connor, is prepared to share this life- transforming secret knowledge with anyone (for a price).

And you know what I always fking hate seeing bots say.. "Its soooo late! I just cant sleep as I'm so excited for *** as they now have their Diamanté management key star CC level 456 orions belt badge!! that means they get a 2day all expenses paid (even throwing free Forever water) trip to shanghai! Woop woop #beingatwatpaysoff"

Facebook's algorithm penalises business pages that are regularly deactivated so if EC does keep shutting down her page overnight it will have a direct impact on the number of people who see her posts. Such a shame

gimlet went to read that courier link about the receptionist/doctor, and it's already vanished! Page does not exist, already taken down. Do you have another link?
Man that was quick to go poof.

Rain, it's still there. I had to load it twice