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MLM-BOT WATCH - continuing the talk about Juice +, Forever Living YOunique Arbonne

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lastuseraccount123 · 27/01/2016 00:22

Our very own Fake MN MLM is here:

timelessvie.wordpress.com - 8,700 views

www.facebook.com/timelessvie/ - 665 likes

twitter.com/timelessvie -80 followers

continue the chat, Botwatchers!

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Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 21:36

Can you YouTube video be names something else, with EC name in the title and FL so that it gets more search result success?

Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 21:40

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Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 21:41

The only tangible assets owned by the company are worth £2k - probably an Apple Mac

Mootpointer · 28/01/2016 21:42

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DollyTwat · 28/01/2016 21:42

So £25k to work like a woman possessed and plan meetings whilst in labour?!

I'll keep my cushy part time job thanks!

Patzy85 · 28/01/2016 21:46

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Siwi · 28/01/2016 21:47

Links to TimelessVie blog, Twitter and fb are in the op at the top of the page.

Funny looking back that you worried about how to leave Jasmine. All you need to do is to be thought to be criticising the cult and boom! You are an Unperson!

They certainly aren't worried about hurting YOUR feelings.

Join the VieStars!

The two videos are on the TimelessVie blog and they are brilliant.

Willdoitinaminute · 28/01/2016 21:49

Yet more truth bending!

Siwi · 28/01/2016 21:50

Meant to add that this is standard for all cults.

darceybussell · 28/01/2016 21:50

TV's post with the EC video (if that is what they are talking about) was hardly 'abusive' - didn't it say 'silly aloe bot lady'? They need to toughen up a bit if they think that is abusive!

Willdoitinaminute · 28/01/2016 21:53

Sorry Kanga I am sole trader so the terms mean something different in my accounts. So in ltd company accounts is turnover the same as assetsts?

Teddy1970 · 28/01/2016 22:06

darcybussell it seems nowadays any difference of opinion is seen as being abusive or bullying, it's utterly pathetic, people need to man up.

Powertotheparalai · 28/01/2016 22:11

willdo- turnover is sales

Siwi · 28/01/2016 22:14

I suppose you've all seen the cassette boy videos Of poor David Cameron.

Who would be a 'Public Figure'?

:)

Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 22:17

Turnover is the value of sales made. You then have to take off expenses of course, to get to profit.

Neither of the Bot accounts include a figure for turnover because they have file micro-entity accounts.

Basically there is a rule that if your numbers are so small, then you only have to file very basic accounts with very basic numbers.

You are able to file micro-accounts if

  • your annual turnover (sales) are £632k or less, AND
  • your company's total net worth is £316k or less.
So we know that these facts are all true for the BOTS' accounts

Jayne Leach - doesn't look to have a UK company therefore can't be making much money at all. Anyone earning over £70k ish I would say are better off operating through a limited company. She must be a sole trader which in my mind tells me that she is a basic rate tax payer.

Give me more names to look up!

Fintan · 28/01/2016 22:22

Kanga am I right in thinking that included in their assets could be any stock they've purchased from FL? So the items they buy for their own 1CC per month and anything else they've got in stock and haven't sold?

Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 22:22

Alas, It would appear that Jayne Leach is actually called Emily Jane Leach.

Her company is called Q.L.S. Global Limited and her husband John Ernest (love that name) Charles Curtis is the principal director. She is also a Director.

The company was only set up Nov 2014, so we won't see the accounts until September 2016.

Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 22:24

Anyone can look this shit up.... Its all public info .... Enjoy

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/

Fintan · 28/01/2016 22:27

Jayne Leach has got a big flashy website. My bot goes on about the QLS team, so she must be one of hers.

Kanga59 · 28/01/2016 22:29

Fintan - in the accounts I have seen there is no stock held on the balance sheet.

This could be due to a few reasons:

  • the accountant feels the stock is worth zero and therefore cannot be included as an asset
  • the BOT may have called it something else - like a debtor - this means that they have accounted for it as if they have sold it and are waiting for the cash to come in. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case.

And if this is the case, then the company is insolvent

There are however, plenty of creditors in these accounts (ie people who the company owes money to). The creditors are frankly, massive. And don't make sense if the business is truly what they say it is

Fintan · 28/01/2016 22:31

Thanks for explaining that Kanga. I had visions of them having £5k worth of stock in their garage or something! Very interesting about the creditors.

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SocksRock · 28/01/2016 22:34

If the bots have taken cash out as dividends, that wouldn't show in these accouts though would it? As it's neither an asset or a debt? So they could have turned over £500k, taken it all out as dividend, declared it on their personal tax return and then just left £20k in the business?

Or am I very wrong about that?

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FleeBee · 28/01/2016 22:46

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