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MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam

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CheekySmile · 22/12/2015 19:58

Still continuing the discussion of the various network marketing schemes or multi-level marketing schemes (MLMs) that people we know are involved in.

If you have an MLM bot of your own then join us and share their claims and content.

Or if you are researching a company before signing up to be a network marketer please take a look at the previous threads here and here and also this thread which delves deeper into the workings of MLMs.

And don't forget our very own MN MLM Timeless Vie!
www.facebook.com/timelessvie
www.twitter.com/timelessvie
www.timelessvie.wordpress.com

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Toobusytowee · 07/01/2016 10:38

Claregoergina1 your friend might be encouraged to buy leaflets, business cards, stickers, samples and other paraphernalia. She'll be encouraged to replace all her own cosmetics, and products in her house with Forever crap. So she can recommend how wonderful they are. She'll need to get wine and nibbles in for her product launches. She'll need to rent out venues to give talks to prospects. Then there's the training books and success days that she'll need to travel to, stay overnight and buy admission tickets for. She won't see any of that as expenses though. Somehow all that expense just doesn't register with the poor new recruits. They want to be like their amazeballs up line who is so incredibly successful and wealthy. All the money will come flooding in soon, if they just try hard enough and do what they are told.

Eyespying · 07/01/2016 10:51

Claregeorgina1- This linked video of 'Herbalife' victims, should give you an even clearer picture of what lies in wait for your friend.

More than one thousand 'Herbalife' victims have so far filed complaints in the USA with regulators and law enforcement agencies, but the 'Herbalife' racket is still operating all around the globe.

sminkypink · 07/01/2016 10:56

As well as paying tickets to training days, plus the travel, she'll even have to buy her own coffees and lunches there. It amazes me how they all take selfies with their coffees before going into trainings. Like it's really great.
All I can think is, 'oh wow, so you gave up your entire Saturday for a training day and the tight (and incredibly wealthy) gits couldn't even fully expense you?'
It's such a swindle. Even the diary they all use is a whopping thirty quid!

flameprincess · 07/01/2016 10:58

The last post on the Timeless Vie FB page is genius huns!

Eyespying · 07/01/2016 11:12

Apart from their kitsch, updated external presentations, internally, 'MLM' income opportunities cultic rackets, are neither original nor unique.

priceonomics.com/when-the-kkk-was-a-pyramid-scheme/

sminkypink · 07/01/2016 11:53

that Herbalife vid is a good thing to play to anyone considering mlm. The lingo they use is always the same isn't it?

Claregeorgina1 · 07/01/2016 12:00

Since she started all this October last year , she's had more colds + been off work with illnesses generally rundown, hardly a good advert for her aloe drink !! What pisses me off the most is how she's distanced herself ! I think just before Xmas she may of been having 2nd thoughts ......then Shingles reeled her back in with the barn conversion purchase bullshit .....

Eyespying · 07/01/2016 12:29

sminkypink - Yes, this video is good, because it's short and to the point and the witnesses who appear, are not what most people imagine 'MLM' victims to be.

All 'MLM's' use the same unifying jargon and esoteric (hierarchical/initiation) hermetic structures of secrecy and obedience, and are, therefore, copy-cats (to greater or lesser extent) of the original 'Nutrilite/ Mytinger and Casselberry' blame-the-victim cultic racket, which itself morphed into 'The American Way Association' aka 'Amway' in 1959.

The instigators of 'Nutrilite/Mytinger and Casselberry' almost certainly found the idea for making money, if not the hermetic/esoteric pattern for their own racket, in perverted pre-WWII groups like the so-called 'Second KKK.' I've never been able to discover if Rehborg, and/or Mytinger, and/or Casselbery, was ever a 'KKK' initiate. However, its more than likely that they were merely initiates of a traditional fraternal secret society, like 'Freemasonry.'

The 'Second KKK' was, in fact, a perversion of a traditional 'Fraternal Secret Society,' instigated by a salesman who is known to have been an intitiate of about a dozen 'secret societies.'

The 'Herbalife' victims were found, and the video produced, by Pershing Square Capital.

In private Pershing's boss, Bill Ackman, accepts that 'Herbalife' is just one of hundreds of copy-cat 'MLM' rackets, but in public, he steers clear of saying this.

At the same time as the first video was made, Pershing organized, and filmed, an astonishing event which, at the last minute, was chaired by my associate, Robert FitzPatrick (when a celebrity financial journalist suddenly refused to appear).

sminkypink · 07/01/2016 12:47

claregeorgina01 Shingles keeps posting up nasty things on her personal Facebook page about her ex partner and other relatives, then deleting it.
What she says in these posts, makes you wonder how many of her family are unhappy about this.
She's uprooting the family and moving them to a house in the back of beyond, I'd say, away from support networks who aren't in FL, deliberately away from relatives/critics and anyone willing to confront her on what on earth she is doing. It will be easier to fool locals in the new community as they won't have met her before. It's very sinister.

Tiredemma · 07/01/2016 13:05

My bot has just linked on FB to all her bot friends Mr D O'Connor (who has a massive forehead I might add) telling us about the release of his new book-
"how to create the mindset of a network marketing champion" otherwise known as "how to lure puppets".

people are fawning over it.

ihaterain · 07/01/2016 14:31

Would anyone like to become a mumtrepreneur? Details blacked out by me by the way but if anyone would like to take this lady up on her amazing opportunity..........

And im sure my kids would rather I didnt go to work, however I'm not so sure what my mortgage company would have to say about it though.

Said advert was on the noticeboard of my local grim as hell softplay.

MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam
penny1ane · 07/01/2016 14:35

I remember having the pleasure of hearing one of Dave o connors talks.
I never liked him. I really didn't trust him. Everyone else raved about him like he was a celebrity.

Annie65 · 07/01/2016 14:40

Well my sil has told her first lie on fb (that I know of) photo of her with her babies in the car saying "I am earning money doing my business, and not having to pay anyone to look after my babies". A few days later announcing she has some "me time" and the children are in the nursery. Now make your mind up hun, you either do pay for childcare or you dont. I noticed the lie so I hope others did. It makes me very angry that she has started to do this and I know it wont be the last time.Angry

Annie65 · 07/01/2016 14:43

Ihate, I would be tempted to pull it down, and keep doing it, discreetly of course.Wink

penny1ane · 07/01/2016 14:47

Does Dr Tom Barrett have anything to do with flp?
I remember his name used to come up a lot and how you MUST go to one of his talks as it would transform your business.

ihaterain · 07/01/2016 14:47

It wasnt the only advert for mlm by a long stretch on the noticeboard.

I generally try and avoid that particular softplay but it was raining and the toddler was on my case.

lazycoo · 07/01/2016 14:52

One of my bots just posted this abomination. FL and minions - just when I thought Facebook couldn't get any more annoying...

MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam
sminkypink · 07/01/2016 15:06

I've just been added to a Facebook tarantula leg Younique party. :(

CheekySmile · 07/01/2016 15:23

Great work with the likes and comments on today's FB post! It was only posted 5 hours ago and has already reached over 2000 people! There must be a fair few lurkers reading this thread

If anyone would like to share a pic of their own Timeless Vie cheque for a pitiful amount then just PM me (hun) here with your email address and the name you'd like on it.

And sorry, Roxanna Glitterson is taken Grin

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lazycoo · 07/01/2016 15:28

TV page insights for the week. Thank you to everyone who visits, likes, shares and comments. I'm very grateful. We are driving awareness of these terrible cons!

MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam
xenu1 · 07/01/2016 15:31

ihaterain thx for pic. I have a particular loathing for these sort of ads. (I'm male BTW). I know the MLM frauds and FL is simply Amway with one product line. But FL is also targeted directly at vulnerable new mums and I find that despicable. Here's another: "Aloe to manipulative adverts" Grr...

MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam
lastuseraccount123 · 07/01/2016 15:44

latest from my bot (talking about this is a nice distraction from the family shizz going on right now)

she's working on a laptop! this never happens to anyone else except people in an mlm!

MLM bot watch - Continued discussion of the network marketing companies Forever Living, Herbal Life, Juice Plus etc as a pyramid scheme or scam
lastuseraccount123 · 07/01/2016 15:46

blog is over 5,000 views. considering it only started in Nov, think we're doing well.

lastuseraccount123 · 07/01/2016 15:48

also, i can tell by the stats people are staying and reading through the posts, so hopefully that will help the google rankings too.

CheekySmile · 07/01/2016 15:54

Glad that MLM has a positive edge last!

Is that an aloe plant next to the laptop?! #FFSjustusetheplant!!!

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