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Puddytats - A summary of the last 18 months of hell (this will be long and i hope will answer akll questions)

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puddytats · 24/09/2006 20:29

Dear all

I have decided to start a new thread on this and run thro everything from the beginning, if you get to the end then thankyou for reading and well done. If you have any questions please ask, i will answer as fully as I am able considering i do not, and will never know the full facts.

Here goes...

On the 12 May 2005 DD was born. On the 13th June DH returned to work after paternity leave. He got to work as usual at 9.30ish and was met in the lobby by head of HR and immediatly taken into the boardroom. He was told that discrepancies had appearded on a firm he was working on but this was not a disiplinary, simply a meeting to establish facts. DH was shocked and stunned. He was asked variuos questions including whether he knew what was going on. He said he had no idea. He was then suspended on full pay while further investigations took place. He returned home and we tried to piece together what had happened.
Records at work show that a ficticious member was made up on a real client and that DH did work on this client, including the issuing of a cheque. His computer initials were over everything. Work decided that DH was at fault at dismissed his.
As this was taking place the police also knocked on our door. DH was arrested and all paperwork relating to financial records were taken away - including all the work we had done ourselves. It transpired that 3 cheques 'passed' thrioough our bank account - one in joint bank and 2 in dh sole account. DH was adviced to no comment throughout the interview, which he did. Because of this and because one of the cheques was in joint account the police arrested me.
Names on the cheques had been changed after they were signed by the partners at DH work, we know this because there are photocopiers of the cheques before signiture and from the bank after cashing. They had been changed to either our current surname or my maiden name. The police handwriting expert said it was likely to be DH handwriting. A certified copy of our marriage certificate was also provided with the one in my maiden name.
A little of the money was moved round our variuos accounts and the rest was taken out one way or another. It would seem that everything other than the initial paying in and one cheque withdrawel was done over the internet. That money as yet has not been traced.
DH and i were cept on police bail for over a year while they completed their investigations. During this time we were powerless to do anything, I attempted to committ suicide due to the stress and we have reached lows you can not imagine.
After a hellish year i was released without charge. DH was charged on 10 counts. 3 of obtaining property by deception, 3 of fraud (can't remember exact terminology) and 1 of forgery (a letter apparently)
We have already paid over £20,000 in legal fees and if we had decided to fight the case would be looking at at leat £100,000 more including solicitors, Queens counsel, computer experts, forensic accountants, private investigators etc. At the moment DH mother in paying for us to survive - although i have now got a job, and DH father in paying legal fees. We cannot live off others forever.
If we fight it we could lose everything. We have 2 children and a need to keep a roof over their heads, they have been through so much in their very young lives that keeping a familiar home is vitsl to their stability.
We could fight it to the bitter end and have the full support of friends and family who believe us and know we have been set up. Our morals say fight but we have learnt over the past year that justice is not fair, about who is guilty or innocent but who can prove what and who can afford to prove what.
We do not want the children to remember daddy being away, we do not want to be apart at all so are trying to limit damage. We know dh is innocent and now have to ignore justice and look to what affect a lengthy trail could have on the family, the stress, tension cost etc has had to be weighed up against what could be gained or lost. We will win in the end because we have eachother.

If you have got this far then well done and thankyou

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curlysmum · 12/10/2006 22:16

yes exactly in my horrible experiences they seem to move cases around , transfer and cancel alot, with lots of hanging around on the day, at very short notice, but I'm sure that is the one.

curlysmum · 12/10/2006 22:18

It does'nt mean that it has to be where you live

beckybraAAARGHstraps · 12/10/2006 22:19

You're right curlysmum.

Now possibly not the best time to discuss this.

Best wishes puddytats.

soapbox · 12/10/2006 22:19

Her DH does not work in the same town as he lives - one of her posts says he works about 50miles away, which would be right.

The case would be heard in the court nearest to the company he works for.

And yes, the name does match.

I am still astonished he is pleading guilty - but there we are - nowt so queer as folk and all that!

curlysmum · 12/10/2006 22:29

Puddytats , I wish you all the courage for tommorrow, you take care and be strong for your lovely children, remember us ladies are often alot stronger and more resourceful than we give ourselves credit for and I'm sure you will get through all of this.

mysonsmummy · 12/10/2006 23:16

does anyone have the right to look at court listings? if you were in court would you be comfortable with people checking up on you?
just dont seem the right thing to do. IMO

soapbox · 12/10/2006 23:25

Mysonsmummy - in this country we have a tradition of court proceedings being public. I think that is for the good tbh - openness and transparency of legal proceedings is important, I believe. Indeed where there are exceptions to this - family courts and some other non-public proceedings - there is a greater chance of miscarriages of justice, as we have seen with the Roy Meadows case etc.

If you believe that public hearings are important, then naturally public listings of hearings is also important - otherwise those who want to hear a particular case wouldn't know when or where to turn up

mumandlovingit · 13/10/2006 07:43

i hope everything goes okay for you today.

cod · 13/10/2006 07:46

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TheBlonde · 13/10/2006 08:22

what woman??

the name PT gave is down for Plea and Case Management

Pruhoohooohoooooni · 13/10/2006 08:27

It is there. Did you scroll down?

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 13/10/2006 08:31

Thinking of your family today pt.

Judy1234 · 13/10/2006 08:45

Public hearings are a key part of our democracy. Of course she didn't have to give the details so could have chosen for no one on here to know perfectly easily. To lie under oath in court and say you did something when you didn't - that's a huge thing. I'm not sure I could live with that. You can be jailed for that - Aitken, Archer etc

Anyway I suppose it's not too late to change a plea right to the very last minute.

pindy · 13/10/2006 08:46

Hope all goes as well as it can. Thinking of you today.

puddytats · 13/10/2006 08:57

He will enter plea today and either be sentanced immediatly or sentancing will be adjourned while reports can be compiled. We are hoping for the latter as that means he may be released on bail for a urther month. Have to go now as takes a bit of time to get to winchester, will post again when i can.
Again thank you for all the support
xxx

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foundintranslation · 13/10/2006 09:02

PT, I continue to think of you all.

zippitippitoes · 13/10/2006 09:04

Like others thinking of you, today.

cod · 13/10/2006 09:06

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FIMBOnABroomstick · 13/10/2006 13:12

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mumbleslikeazombiechum · 13/10/2006 14:02

(please excuse irrelevant nosiness); are you a probation officer Cod?

puddytats · 13/10/2006 14:18

released on bail until 15th December when he returns for Sentencing. This gives uor solicitor a chance to compile pre sentencing reports and a probation officer to come out and assess DH and the situation for the prosecution. We just wait until the 15th December now. What a merry christmas that will be

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FIMBOnABroomstick · 13/10/2006 14:20

I feel sorry for you and your children Puddytats .

Cod is a magistrate.

Heavenis · 13/10/2006 14:24
Sad
mumandlovingit · 13/10/2006 17:22

make sure you spend some quality ime with your children together before he has to go back incase the worst does happen and you arent together for a while.

thinking of you and your family at this horrible time.

ggglimpopo · 13/10/2006 17:24

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