Please or to access all these features

Miscarriage/pregnancy loss

Find support and share your experiences on our Miscarriage forum. See also legal rights and support after baby loss.

Dr Shehata advice

1000 replies

Wolfemum · 10/02/2023 08:58

Hello, I am currently experiencing my 3rd consecutive miscarriage and my 2nd MMC. I have been told I will now be referred to the RMC unit but due to my age (42) i think I need to go privately and I was wondering what your opinions are on Dr Shehata? I've heard he has a brilliant reputation but is quite focused on NK cells and less on other things. Can anyone share their thoughts, opinions experiences?
My first pregnancy was healthy and resulted in my 6 year old boy but the last 2 MMC we saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks but then no growth or heartbeat at 7/8 weeks.
Many thanks for reading

OP posts:
Thread gallery
18
jchars7 · 20/08/2023 06:26

@KatyTTC will be thinking of you and sending you and your family lots of love ❤️ and good for you for letting your hair down - you needed it. Xx

jchars7 · 20/08/2023 06:30

I did my 2nd Humira injection last night but a bit seemed to dribble out (few drops on carpet) so I’m hoping it won’t hinder me too much but by the sounds of things I’ll probably need to do another dose! After the first one I felt a slight sore throat but this morning after the 2nd I feel fine!!! Grrr so hard to not read into absolutely everything and I’m just desperate to start trying already!!!

Always thinking of all of you and always reading your updates xx

JandL2020 · 20/08/2023 08:58

@Lily1990 yes you are right about the lack of emotional intelligence. Trying to pick myself up today, yesterday I was still so miserable to be honest. Best of luck for testing today xx
@KatyTTC god what awful news, I’m so sorry. My father in law had stage 4 lung cancer…I still can’t believe he’s not with us. It is just so unfair 😞 I met someone who had successful immunotherapy treatment with stage 4 lung cancer though. I think when you hear stage 4 you fear the worst possible prognosis but the treatments these days are very good. Thinking of you xx
@jchars7 i was so confused by these injections that I had to video call my nurse friend and she talked it through! So glad I did as I would have definitely got it wrong and it would have been such a waste of money. A few drops sounds okay though as long as it wasn’t the whole lot xx

Lily1990 · 20/08/2023 21:52

@KatyTTC I’m so sorry to hear about your mum ❤️❤️ you poor things. The strength you must have to put on a brave face and celebrate your friend’s wedding yesterday and today, with this going on. My heart goes out to you. My mum has 2 friends who were both diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and they have both made full recoveries and been cancer free for a good few years now. So please stay hopeful. Completely understand how important it will be to find out the treatment plan and get started so you feel more in control of everything. Please don’t worry about replying to these messages but just know we are thinking of you.

@JandL2020 sorry you were feeling low yesterday too, it’s so tough and you must be feeling under a lot of pressure waiting to test.

My test today was a BFN but then about an hour later a VERY faint line appeared (can only be seen when scrutinised closely, not even in a photo!) so think it’s an evap. I dipped another test in water to see if a similar evap line came up, which it didn’t. Of course I’ve now been googling pictures of evap lines all day and apparently easy@home recent batches are notorious for them (which is what I used). I’ll have to re-test tomorrow but it’s annoying as it’s my partner’s birthday and cba for either a depressing bfn (most likely) or agonising over more evap lines!

@jchars7 well done for doing the second jab! I had zero side effects from both Humira doses so doesn’t mean it hasn’t worked :) pretty sure it will be fine if a tiny bit came out. Did Dr S say he’ll retest you? Xx

KatyTTC · 20/08/2023 23:53

@Lily1990 that is so reassuring to hear about your mums friends! Thank you for that and your lovely message ❤️.
Gosh im keeping everything crossed for you tomorrow. You’re still only 11dpo tomorrow arent you. It’s really early to be testing. I find the 10dpo thing really baffling as I know so many people who didn’t get bfps until 13/14/15dpo and beyond. Best of luck… esp on your partners birthday. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
You could pee in a cup or container so if you’re not sure about the first test result
you can go out and get other brands and test using your FMU. Just an idea.
I’ve done that before after a friend suggested it!

@jchars7 well done doing the 2 jabs! I’m sure a few drops won’t matter at
all. As long as the majority went in 👍🏼
I felt nothing after my 2nd too, or 3rd and 4th for that matter. I asked Dr S about it and the fact my husband had the worst cold around the time of my 4th jab and I didn’t get it which I’d assumed I would.
He reassured me and said they’re not trying to make us ill, just bring our immune systems back to normal.

xxx

Lily1990 · 21/08/2023 11:26

Thanks @KatyTTC! BFN today too. There is an evap line but I’m sure that’s all it is, as there was literally nothing within 15 minutes of the test. I’m actually 10DPO today (as tested a day early yesterday to avoid having my hopes up and then breaking bad news on bf’s bday). But I’ve always had quite clear lines by now in past pregnancies, so not holding onto any hope. Want my period to come asap now so this horrid limbo phase is over! Really want to book a Hycosy with Dr S but I guess they’ll make me have an appointment first to discuss it?
Are you doing SO this cycle @KatyTTC? I have 3 letrozole tablets left in my packet so may take them to see if it makes me ovulate a bit sooner, CD25 last month was v annoying! Xx

KatyTTC · 21/08/2023 11:48

@Lily1990 im so sorry. That blank space on the test is just devastating.
i am doing SO again. 2nd cycle trying it. Currently on cycle day 5 or day 4 taking 7.5mg of Letrozole. Why don’t you chat to CRP and see if you can get some more letrozole for your next cycle? Each tablet is 2.5mg and I think they start you on 5mg a day (that’s what they started me on) for 5 days so you won’t have enough? Or you could ask your GP if they’d prescribe you some more if you don’t want to tell CRP?
xx

JandL2020 · 21/08/2023 11:51

@Lily1990 sorry 😢
do have to have a follow up with dr s for every failed cycle?
hope you manage to have a nice day.
Wednesday I have something planned with friend positive or negative result.
anxiety levels through the roof now 😩
off out soon to work …started a bit later today
should keep my mind busy
xx

Hope646 · 22/08/2023 18:33

@JandL2020 How are you feeling? Just wanted to wish you all the very best for tomorrow. May this be your month. I have got everything crossed for you.
I read what you said about your friend’s pregnancy. It’s never easy and most of the time it’s not what it is but how things are being said.

With me, in the last couple of years of us trying, so many close family and friends got pregnant and had babies. Some were only few weeks to what would have been my due date the first time. I have been quite good with putting a strong face and celebrating them even though it has been really tough at times. What has really bothered me is one specific family friend, she knew I had miscarriages; however she would not stop sending me her baby’s videos, photos, even photo of her second preg test the very next day she tested positive without any call or a visit. Just a photo out of nowhere. We are not even that close. Not everyone but one in a group can be very heartless and just like to rub it on your face and really make you feel there is something they have which you don’t. Ofc I don’t think this is anywhere close to what you may have experienced. But a lot of times people really don’t know how to have these preg. conversations and on the other side there are individuals who can be intentionally malicious.

@KatyTTC I am so so sorry for your mum. I hope you guys are holding on well. I can’t imagine what you must be going through. Give yourself time and break to stay strong for yourself and your family. I hope they start the treatment soon and your mom responds to it well. Sending you and your family lots of love well wishes.
@Lily1990 so sorry if this wasn’t your month. Arghh its never easy. It always feels like a non-stop cycle. But you will get there. I feel being on medication it takes few cycles until your body get used to it. Were you on SO?

@MeganBistram and @whatsgoingon22 and whats hope you both lovely ladies are doing well.

I have been feeling sooo anxious about tomorrow. I have been having really bad dreams the last few nights. It is actually our wedding anniversary tomorrow too. Either it will be a good celebration or a day filled with misery again.

KatyTTC · 22/08/2023 19:04

@Hope646 thank you ❤️. It’s just so sudden. I feel like I’m living in a nightmare 😩.

I can’t imagine how anxious you must be feeling 💔. Wishing you all the luck in the world for tomorrow. I hope your scan is early so you’re not waiting all day? Keeping everything possible crossed. Xxxx

JandL2020 · 22/08/2023 19:09

@Hope646 that sounds really awful what you’ve experienced. I am “lucky” in a sense a lot of my close friends are older, or choose not to have children. My sister has been really insensitive though so I don’t speak to her about anything related to this now. And that’s hard 😞
I am feeling very anxious about the result…my resting heart rate is up, occasionally sore boobs and some cramping so I am really hoping it is positive. Could be my over active mind playing tricks though.
got everything crossed for you and your hubby tomorrow. I hope it’s happy tears on your anniversary. I know you must be feeling so scared. I’m going for a walk soon to take my mind off it. It’s so tough. Thinking of you.

I will update tomorrow positive or negative
xxxxx

whatsgoingon22 · 22/08/2023 20:31

@KatyTTC I’m so so sorry to hear about your Mum, that’s really hard for you and your family. I hope that she will respond to treatment and that she can make a turn around ❤️❤️I know it will be hard to compartmentalise everything too so take your time to do what’s right for you for as long/short a time you need ❤️🙏🏻and good luck with everything🙏🏻

@JandL2020 how are you feeling? Good luck tomorrow with testing- i hope everything goes well my love ❤️🙏🏻. Those symptoms sound good to be honest 🙏🏻glad you have something nice planned and yes I know the feeling with the sucker punch of news /partners reactions to things.it’s happened me a few times, I think over the years he has grown much more sensitive and empathetic after all the challenges but they will never quite get it the way we do☹️😢

@Lily1990 how are you doing darling? Hope you’re okay. Mine was superrrrrr faint on day 11- like I was seconds from throwing it in the bin…. And even for a few days there wasn’t a huge change😘
Remy history, I’ve had 4 miscarriages and one CP
1st -missed miscarriage at 9 weeks found out at 11 wks (natural)
2nd- pretty quickly a - missed miscarriage at 6 weeks found out at 12weeks (natural)
-all testing NHS done - all normal
-hysteroscopy and arcuate uterus diagnosis
3rd - missed miscarriage at 12 weeks found out at 13weeks (d&c - and testing and everything came back normal)
4th - 6 weeks - confirmed at 7 weeks (natural) on progesterone and aspirin only from Nhs
-went to dr Shehata for testing
5th - chemical pregnancy (hadnt started any treatment from Dr Shehata then)
He did say to me that the longer your pregnancies go on that his treatment may be less hence all my worries still ☹️ have always had spotting on/off in all of them and numerous scans so I am glad of the fresh start of a new NHS hospital and Dr Shehata.

@Hope646 thanks for checking in, I hope you’re okay my love ❤️❤️will be thinking of you tomorrow, good luck with everything. The vivid dreams are a good sign I think - it’s all the hormones. Have everything crossed for you ❤️🙏🏻

@jchars7 i had no symptoms at all after the Humira despite the months of procrastination/avoidance so don’t worry too much if it was just a small amount xx

@MeganBistram how are you doing lovely? How far along are you now? Xx

re: me, I’ve still got light brown spotting - it’s not as dark as it was so I’m not sure what that means. Have had some slight discomfort/heavy feeling over the last few days - hoping it’s just things moving and expanding. Have a scan on Thursday so I hope all is okay then ❤️🙏🏻never gets easier- I’m just always worrying ☹️🙈

❤️ to all xxx

JandL2020 · 22/08/2023 21:33

@whatsgoingon22 so scared 😟got the test ready to use first thing in the morning. So no faffing around trying to get into it thankfully! I am super organised in that respect…I even have a pill box with the days of the week 🤣
just reading your history…heartbreaking😞💔
the strength of you all is amazing
thinking of you and your scan on Thursday xx

KatyTTC · 22/08/2023 21:43

@JandL2020 good luck tomorrow!! Thinking of you and @Hope646 sooooo much. Sending you both so much love and luck.

@Lily1990 thinking of you lots too ❤️. How are you? Xxx

MeganBistram · 23/08/2023 06:21

@KatyTTC i am so sorry to see the update on your mum. It must be heartbreaking to deal with all of this and then have to watch your mum deteriorate. Sending all my love ❤️
@Lily1990 I had a full negative until day 13 and even then it was faint. With my son I did a test after my missed period and it was neg until I went back 30 mins later and I. Had a line.. have you tested again?
@Hope646 gosh it’s so hard with friends and navigating this journey. My best friend had two early miscarriages (6&7 weeks) and I find it super tough as she compares my losses and thinks she knows how I feel so I haven’t even told her about this pregnancy yet which is crazy but I hate the “I know how you feel sympathy” and my sister in law had 3 losses and she is stone cold like you should feel nothing.. it’s hard to navigate. But other friends have popped out of the woodwork and been super supportive. Today I have such positive feels for you.. bad dreams is a good sign for pregnancy ❤️

@JandL2020 come of girl.. let’s get this tests a double line. ❤️

I am 15 weeks on Thursday according to CRP. Weird stage where I am loosing my symptoms accept the boobs and feeling better. So that comes with anxiety but also some days for a period of time I forget I’m pregnant so have some rest for my brain. I got my harmony results and all negative so one more tick ✔️

xxx

JandL2020 · 23/08/2023 07:42

Morning Ladies
Been awake since 3am. It’s positive!
the line appeared immediately but was faint at first and slow to develop and I thought the worst to start with but appears to have developed into a strong line.
Ive got a blood test later and will need to call clinic to book in my infusion…hopefully Friday if they can fit me in and I’ll ask them to repeat my hcg whilst I’m there (bet they charge ££ for that) but I need it 48 hours apart and I’m not driving back to the ivf clinic from Epsom

thanks for all the positive thoughts and getting me through this wait.
Now it is the next wait….which is probably more agonising. I’m going to ask CRP to do my viability scan…how much does it cost @MeganBistram @whatsgoingon22 ?

xxx

whatsgoingon22 · 23/08/2023 07:51

Ohhhh amazing @JandL2020 !! Congrats!! I’ve been thinking about you this am!! Really good that it’s strong so early too ❤️❤️❤️😘Can you get the GP to do your HCG? I did that and progesterone with mine.
Is the viability the first one at 6 weeks? There’s a consultation included so I think it’s more expensive, possibly £350 plus, @MeganBistram may remember better as I think I needed medication with mine aswell…… good luck @Hope646 ❤️🙏🏻

JandL2020 · 23/08/2023 08:30

@whatsgoingon22 thank you! So tired I’ve had to have a cup of tea with some sugar. i can go GP yeah but had a lot of resistance from them last time when I asked them for it and a repeat. I will go there at some point tomorrow and book an appointment- just keen to know what it is now and a good starting number would be nice to see. I actually have old blood test forms but not sure if they would be still valid.
£350 blimey 😨 well I feel like I don’t have a choice really as I can’t go to the ivf clinic will just need to pay it 😞
xx

Lily1990 · 23/08/2023 08:47

@JandL2020 congratulations, that is amazing news! I’m so happy and excited for you 😁❤️

@whatsgoingon22 wow can’t believe what you have been through- that’s absolutely brutal 😔 the resilience you must have developed to keep going! Well done for getting to this point and I have everything crossed this baby is the one!❤️ good luck for your scan tomorrow.

@Hope646 also wish you the very best of luck with your scan!

@KatyTTC @MeganBistram @whatsgoingon22 thanks ladies for checking in with me! I am really confused about what’s going on. I had the FAINTEST ever positives yesterday and today at 12DPO (have attached a pic of my tests from 10-12DPO). I emailed CRP and they agreed they are very faint but told me to keep testing daily and continue meds. Annoyingly im going on holiday for 2 weeks on Friday so if my test is still a faint positive I need to have intralipids tomorrow. It gives me a bit of hope knowing that a few of you also had negatives/faint positives at this stage too, as almost every thread I’ve read on mumsnet where the lines are this faint ends in a chemical. And my line at 12DPO is similar to what I had at 9DPO in my last chemical. I just hate having a bit of hope because then it’s so gutting when it doesn’t work out, and I know late implantation = much higher chance of miscarriage. But I will just have to try not to obsess about it as I have so much work I need to get done before holiday! Xx

Sensitive content
Dr Shehata advice
JandL2020 · 23/08/2023 09:00

@Lily1990 thank you ❤️

definitely see a faint positive the bottom
one. Do you have a FRER? Are you certain when you ovulated?
I wonder if you could get an urgent blood test done before your holiday? then you would definitely know for sure.
xx

MeganBistram · 23/08/2023 09:05

@JandL2020 omg this is amazing news. We could have our first twins on the group ❤️. I was going to say can you ask the Gp? If not try randox or a private company they are normally quite a lot cheaper and probably nearer.

each scan with consultation at CRP is £280.. then the 12 week proper fetal one is £350 and I think the 16 week is more as it’s a cervical length as well. Mine is on the 7th so will let you know :)

@whatsgoingon22 how you feeling? When is your next scan? Xx

MeganBistram · 23/08/2023 09:34

Sorry @Lily1990 i missed the last update. I think the ones you are using at 25 ml ones which it’s pretty good for 12 DPO I used the clear blue early one which was 10ml I will attach to show you the difference at 14 DpO on the two

Lily1990 · 23/08/2023 09:51

Thanks @MeganBistram @JandL2020 . Unfortunately this is a 10ml one, just checked on the packet. I find FRER and Easy@Home usually align closely as both are 10ml. Also just found a pic of a test I sent my mum on dec that looked the same and I got my period a few days later so not optimistic. Do you reckon I would still get my period if taking Cyclogest or will it block it completely?
Wonder if I need to increase my pred to 25mg from 15mg incase the NK cells have already attacked this one. Or maybe it’s a dodgy egg/chromosomal problem! X

Lily1990 · 23/08/2023 09:53

I’m also certain when I ovulated. And I think a blood test may be a waste of money as I know from the test my HCG levels are super low unfortunately xx

KatyTTC · 23/08/2023 10:26

@Lily1990 gosh I feel for you. What a head f**k! I think the bottom test looks pretty good for 12dpo? I think 13 and 14dpo will be very telling. Keeping everything crossed for you. Hoping the holiday is well timed and you can take some time for yourself, have a pamper and enjoy it 😘😘😘.

@JandL2020 what fabulous news!! Huge huge congratulations!

Sending you all lots of love as always.
What an incredible group of women 💪 xxx

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.