Recurrent Miscarriage Support - tests, treatment, trying again - thread 9

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Welcome everyone - pull up a chair! A thread for anyone who has suffered multiple miscarriages and is in need of information, moral support, tea or sympathy. Newbies very welcome.

Can we start the thread with a recap of where we are all up to again, please?

Happy anniversary for yesterday Tiny.

I'm spotting and cramping today so not feeling particularly hopeful

Mint leaf- how's the spotting and cramping, I know how normal it is to worry about this with all our histories, but this can be perfectly normal in a healthy, happy pregnancy too. I hope everything g settles for you? How is the medication going? X

Sorry to hear that mint hope it has settled. These things always seem to happen over a bank holiday w/end too. How are you today?

It eased off a bit later in the day and now seems to have stopped. It wasn't enough for it to be an inevitable game over, but it was a real shock as I'd been feeling super positive after starting the clexane. The clexane is easy peasy. I'm really surprised at what a non issue doing the injections is. The general stress however is pretty much all consuming! I'm going to try for an early scan sometime soon I think. Whats the earliest people think these are worthwhile?
Thanks guys.

Mint that's great news! I am not sure with scan time but did your gp say 5 weeks?

I remember with my little girl I had one at 7 weeks and had to go back as to small to see, 2 weeks later they could see her but no heart beat visible so waited 2 further weeks (was then 11 weeks) and they saw her heart beat.

Sometimes I feel would have been better to wait as stressed first about nothing there then stressed no heart beat! To be fair the only time I stopped stressing was hmmmmmmm never as I still stress about things with her now

Am sure someone here will give you some sound advice on scan.

I will keep FX for you that this is your time

Hey guys hope everyone is ok and having a good easter holiday took a few days out to get my head together n think about the future , we have decided that we will try one more time before going for the testing purely because we know that I can get past that awful 6wk mark I did with my lb and he's two now so we are getting me supplements and changing my diet and if we catch again I will do everything the same as we did with lb . According to gp they don't test unless its 3 consecutive mc's I've only had two in row so she wants to wait and see .

Anyway sorry for the rambling post , fingers crossed for lots of bfp's and boring pregnancies all round .

mint I hope the spotting and cramps have stopped for you and its a lovely sticky baby

Debby- glad you have it sorted in your head your next move that often helps I feel with determination. Good luck x

Thanks Dildoos it has helped focus my mind , before making this decision I spent almost 2 days just thinkin bout the baby I lost and questioning if it was my fault and that is just not good when you have a toddler to look after , so we decided to focus on ttc again . Don't get me wrong we'll never forget our 3 angels but we must move forward or we will both go mad .

Thanks for the good wishes Debbie. Glad to hear you're feeling more settled and decided in what you're going to do next. For what its worth I think it sounds like a sensible plan.

I haven't had any more bleeding since Saturday, though have had cramps and pain more than I remember from previous pregnancies. I'm hoping its a baby getting nice and implanted! I've decided to probably go for a little reassurance scan on Friday when I'll be six weeks, though I'll probably phone EPU first thing tomorrow and explain about the bleeding and see what they suggest - they're normally pretty good.

Hope everyone has had a lovely happy Easter break. Back to work for me tomorrow - booo!

Sorry Dildoos meant to reply to you - on phone so not terribly good at remembering whose said what. I know what you mean about the benefits of early scans versus the possibility that they'll be ambiguous and stress inducing. Your story with your little girl sounds like it was really stressy for quite a while. I've decided to give it a go anyway, just to check there is at least something there and its in vaguely the right place. Apologies to everyone in advance for any panicked rants on this thread this results in!

Hi guys. Wondering if I could join? Ttc no 1. I'm 29.

Going through 3 rd miscarriage.5 plus 5 then 8 plus 6 now 5 plus 3 (but prob only got to 4 plus 5ish). All first line tests normal. Was on high dose folic and progesterone this time.

I'm feeling quite low and also annoyed. The last yr has been consumed with trying to concieve and then miscarrying. I'm panicked this wont ever work out for us and I'm very maternal and just want one little baby of my own :(

I'm not sure weather to just try once more and keep going everything crossed (maybe add in aspirin for good
Measure?!) or to pursue nk testing. I find it hard going for appts and having tests and waiting for results etc. but also don't want it to happen again if there is something that can be done to even slightly improve my chances.

I'm confused how this happened again. Also can't be bothered with work anymore..at all.

Glad you decided to join us trying

I think you said on your other thread that you've had the standard testing and it was all normal? It's v frustrating to be in the 'unexplained' category. I was the same after 3MC, and tried again on the "can't hurt" aspirin, progesterone, folic acid only to have a 4th. What prompted me to have NK testing was genetic testing on that 4th embryo proving it was normal, which to me meant I wasn't just unlucky or had knackered eggs (more likely in my case than yours as I'm 39) but there was something wrong with me. With hindsight I wish I'd gone to Prof Q after MC3 when the tests were normal, but I went with the advice I was given at the time to keep trying. Since you are a mere Spring chicken you do have time on your side fertility wise. It is very wearing repeatedly TTC and MC (I had 3 in a 10 month period in 2012-13) and a break would probably do you good physically and emotionally.
In your shoes I'd take a sabattical, get healthy, have sex without TTC, let yourself heal a bit emotionally, do a few things you couldn't possibly attempt with a baby in tow and get NK testing when your cycle is re-established (Prof Q recently saying you need to have had 2 periods post MC, then a few weeks for results) then re-evaluate what next.

Here to support you whatever you decide is right.

Sorry - meant a Sabattical from TTC, not from work ( it'd be nice though!) hadn't read your comment about not being bothered about work! I'm not surprised, it's a huge emotional roller coaster you've been on and very hard not to become consumed by it.

Haha! Thanks for the advice. I'm a very impatient person and feel the need to get back onto ttc ASAP. I wish I was a bit more laid back! Then I wouldn't be so consumed with ttc.
We too have had our 3 miscarriages over a 10 month period - it's been exhausting....but ur now happily
Preg - gives me hope :)
I change my mind every day about what to do. For the next month though I'm def not trying. and maybe will book a nice holiday...then when I'm feeling clearer think about quenby.i have emailed her and have the information....
My second loss was sent for testing but there was a lab error SO annoying.
Thanks for welcoming me to thread! May pop in and out
Depending on where i take my ttc journey !
I am starting acupuncture though to calm my
Anxiety and give me my hope back.. Don't usually believe in all that stuff but can't hurt so will it a shot...

I think that I keep hoping that I'll have a baby or be close to it by
First due date (failed)
My next bday (failed) (2nd one wAs on my bday holiday)
Second due date (failed)
Next Xmas (now also just failed)
Need to stop rushing and calm down!
Anyway enough of my ranting...
Nice to meet everyone
X

Hi everyone, can I join please?
I have had 7 losses in total now (over 8 years 2 different fathers). I have live children but not in the last 3 years and C-section was last birth (read this could effect fertility?).
January, March, April 2014 I have had numerous positive tests. I was 6 weeks 1 day with the one in march, and others I have been 4-5 days late for period, only to bleed. Last year 2 losses with OH too.. so totalling to 5 now with him. - no live children together.
So we have started being tested. We saw the fertility doctor who seems to think they are all false positives or I am seeing things :S (grrr)
I think after 3 children and 7 losses I know how to pee on a stick, and what pregnancy feels like...
I have had the blood tests, waiting on results. Possibly get them tomorrow via gp. Smear is tomorrow and OH is giving a.... sample too.
(He has a DC from previous relationship, no DC together)
So we have been told to use condoms and wait for the tests.. I am ovulation approx. now.. and we are going to give it ago, and see what happens in hope our last ditch attempt o naturalle works :(
Why else would I get positive tests? (different brands too - clearblue, first response, superdrug, asda to name a few).

trying and cowgirl welcome to the thread and so sorry for your losses. I echo bakings suggestion to go down the immune testing route. Especially with prof Q it doesnt set you back as much as the London doctors.

I have had loads of standard tests done eg APA, karo typing and all have come back normal. I am waiting for results on TEG at St. Mary's though I am pretty sure that will be normal. Then it's off to prof Q once I have had 2 AFs for NK testing. Don't want to be in the "bad luck" category, so lets see.

Hope everyone is well, baking, tiny, just, jones?

Hello, welcome trying and cowgirl, sorry you find yourselves here. My advice echo's the others', get tests and then reevaluate. I asked prof Q last week if my MCs were just 'bad luck' and she said no, there's a pattern, and here's the plan. But you can't get the tests if you are pg. Its frustrating, but worth it, I think.
So that's what I've been doing... ahem... putting the plan in to... er... action
2ww started today. Fx!!!!
Hope everyone is staying sane?

Hi guys. U have convinced me to see her!
I think I just wanted to get on with ttc but I'm
Not sure how I'll handle another one-ill always wonder
What if I had tested? So shall go see her..
I wonder what she will say about mine as they are quite
Diff? This one was a "blighted ovum" and the last one we saw a heart beat...but then how many "bad eggs"
Can a 29 yr old have? And my dh is only 32 Too...
How frustrating cowgirl - maybe get ur gp to
Do
A hcg next time So u convince them?! Or just go see another specialist who isn't suggesting something so bizzare! Maybe one or 2 could be evap lines but surely not 7?!

Justonemoretime - hope ur feeling calm in 2ww. Out lives are made up of 2 weeks aren't they? Waiting for ovulation then waiting to pee on a stick! Frustrating.

welcome cowgirl I think false positives are very rare on HPTs, it's ridiculous to suggest you've had lots of them. For some reason you are conceiving and something is going wrong with the implantation or very early development. See what answers you get from the NHS tests but if they don't come up with anything I'd be off to Coventry to see the Prof!

just FX for success this month!

Hello triple I'm good, thanks for asking. Saw MW for 34 week appt today and have a scan booked for next week to check growth. Baby is small for dates but I'm not to worried as bump is growing and my other children have been the same (and have been small but respectable weight babies at term) Will also see an obstetrician about delivery since I'm just about accepting it might actually happen! I finish work on Monday and will be going for the full raspberry leaf tea, pomegranate juice, hypnotherapy, operation evict baby successfully mode!

Hi trying cross posted. I'm going to contact Prof Q and say I want to be put on commission!

Can I ask - 2 natural cycles. So currently bleeding from miscarriage, next month will have af. Then month after af. Is that the month I can see her (after ovulation?)?

Congrats on getting to 34! Not long to go :)

Worth clarifying. I saw her last year and only had one proper AF post MC, then went 7-10 days post ov that first proper cycle. Recently a couple of people have been told 2AFs it may be that she's changed her protocol.

mint I think you have a scan tomorrow? good luck!

Who is Prof Q? lol