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Miscarriage/pregnancy loss

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Advice re viability of pregnancy/miscarriage

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harrogatemum · 02/04/2006 13:43

Hi - I wonder if anyone can offer me any advice or has any experience they can help me with. I thought I was pregnant and dated myself at about 7.5 weeks due to when my last period was and when I know I must have got pregnant (having small twins, it is quite rare!).

I have had some bleeding this week and eventually went for a scan today. This showed a sac with an embryo of only 3mm, apparently this could be no more than 6 weeks. The radiographer said that there was flickering on the screen that coudl have been a heartbeat but it was inconclusive as the whole screen flickers. She asked me if my dates coudl be wrong but I dont think they can. I definitely got pregnant at the end of Feb (26th) so would have to be at least 7 weeks by now surely?

She said that either my dates are wrong or the embryo stopped growing at 6 weeks. I have to wait a week and go back for another scan.

Has anyone had anything similar and what was the outcome? I am praying that I am wrong but I think I know that the pregnancy is no longer viable.

Hopng someone can help.

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wools · 02/04/2006 15:19

Did they take any bloods? They would be able to confirm if the pregnancy was progressing normally as the hormone roughly doubles every 48 hours. How is the bleeding - is is just spotting or heavier than that?

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harrogatemum · 02/04/2006 15:23

Hi wools - no they didnt take any blood at all. The bleeding is just spotting and is a brownish colour with mucusy threads in it (too much info I know = sorry!) but has been pinkish as well.

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nicmum2boys · 02/04/2006 15:27

I had this with DS2. I too knew when I conceived as we had only had the "opportunity" once that month. I thought I was 8 weeks, had some bleeding and pain, went for a scan to be told there was a 4mm fetal pole and no heartbeat, dating about 6 weeks. I was devestated as I was so sure of my dates, and was convinced I was having a miscarriage. Went back a week later expecting confirmation to be told he was 15mm long, heart beating away and dating 8 weeks 2 days. He is tucked up on the sofa with DH now, so all was definately ok in the end.

Hope this offers you some reassurance. All is not necessarily lost.
When are you going for your scan?

Thinking of you, and praying you get the same happy outcome xx

wools · 02/04/2006 15:27

It could be that you ovulated later last month, and even if you only bd arond 26th - it could still mean you're only 6 weeks and maybe the bleeding could be implantation bleeding. It's such a long time to wait though until your next scan. I really hope that you have good news.

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harrogatemum · 02/04/2006 15:31

thanks wools - I hope so too, just preparing myself for the worst I guess

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wools · 02/04/2006 15:31

The bleeding sounds hopeful - with a m/c it tends to be very red (have had two m/cs before). With my first pregnancy, I had brown spotting like yours which turned out to be implantation bleeding. Also,it's very hit and miss whether they will be able to detect a heartbeat if you are 6 weeks - it will be much easier in a week's time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

evenhope · 03/04/2006 08:44

I know you don't want to hear this but brown blood can be the sign of a missed miscarriage, where the baby dies but isn't expelled. I've had this twice in the last year.

I hope I'm wrong but I thought you should be prepared. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

ItalianJob · 03/04/2006 08:48

I had a similar experience with DS - dates were 10 days out from date of LMP - when they date your PG based on LMP, it does seem as if they assume that you have a 28 day cycle and ovulated on day 14, so as wools says, if you ovulated late, that can affect things. The scan is far more accurate than the bloods - I had bloods done that cause me no end of worry,as my hormone levels only went up by 30% in 48 hours.

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harrogatemum · 03/04/2006 08:50

Thanks guys - its reassuring to hear other peoples experiences no matter what the outcome may be. I have my fingers crossed but not too positive about it. We will see.

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HellKat · 03/04/2006 08:56

Hiya,
I had this last year, same thready bleeding too, and it seemed normal at the 7 week scan but at my 11 week scan, it showed a missed mc where the baby had stopped growing at 8 wks.
I'm currently 16+4 and bled for 26 out of 30 days for the first part of this pg. It ranged from heavy flooding with clots, to the same browny threads. My scan at 6wks showed an area which may have been a sac (they were'nt sure) and they could'nt see a fetal pole etc. I measured small for dates (about a week behind) and was told I'd definitely mc. I had bloods done and they showed they were rising normally and on my 7 wk scan I got to hear the heart beat. By the time my 9 wk scan came along, I measured bang on dates. I was 110% sure of my dates aswell as we'd been ttc'ing for nearly a year.
Unfortunately they won't do bloods now unless they suspect an ectopic.
Hang in there hun, it's awful waiting around. I hope it's good news for you but if it's not, there's alot of us here that have been through it (I've had 4 previous mc). Thinking of you xxx

jmum6 · 03/04/2006 09:41

I had all my early scans in the Early Pregnancy Unit and when I had a 6 week scan the dates were out with my own reckoning and then had a scan at 9 weeks, again the dates didn't match, with each other or me. The sonographer said that it didn't seem to be growing as it should etc etc. I had had some red and brown bleeding on and off up until 13 weeks.

At the 12 week dating scan in the ultrasound department the dates were back to what I thought they should be and everything was fine. When I asked about the mismatch in the dates from the previous scans in the EPU they said

'Oh that machines always out - it often gives wronf dates!'

WTF?

So harrogatemum don't give up hope just yet. My 7 month ds is sucking his toes as I type!

Fingers crossed. xxxxx

bettythebuilder · 03/04/2006 10:16

Hi hm, hope you don't mind me posting.
If you remember, I had bleeding at c.6 weeks, sounds just like yours. They couldn't see anything on the scan, so I thought hope was lost, but then did a vaginal scan which is much more accurate, and picked up a little heartbeat straight away.
Did they give you one of these? If not, why not? It's not fair to keep you in limbo for a week, the worry and stress won't help anything.
I'm thinking of you every minute. x

cece · 03/04/2006 10:40

Hi there, how are you this morning?

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harrogatemum · 03/04/2006 13:57

Hi Cece - i am not too bad, still bleeding but its going a bit pinker now so think its the worst.

Betty - of course I dont mind you posting - I thought you might read one of these notes anyway - in answer no they didnt give me a vaginal scan, just an external one, it was only 3mm long and so dated at only 6 weeks max.

Anyway, just got to wait, its the worst!

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cece · 03/04/2006 16:56

harrogatemum
I think with the internal scan I think they are more likely to see a heartbeat. I saw one on my first scan which was an internal. Not that pleasant though - looks like a dildo and not helped when they pop a condom on it!

ItalianJob · 04/04/2006 08:26

agree with other posters - they can see up to a week's more development with an internal scan than an external one. the first sonographer I saw did exactly the same with me - gave me an external scan, said an internal scan wouldn't give any more info - bollocks!

the huge advantage of an internal scan is you need an empty bladder for it! so no discomfort from necking pints of water. sorry you're having a bit more bleeding.

cece · 04/04/2006 08:48

How are you today?

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harrogatemum · 04/04/2006 10:04

HI all, I am ok today. Still bleeding and not heard from the hospital yet. It hasnt got any heavier or any lighter so dotn know what htat means. I am just waiting for the call to tell me when the scan is. The only thing is we are supposed to be going away this weekend for one night away as my parents are looking after DTs. Dont know whether to go or not! I was really looking forward to it as well.

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cece · 04/04/2006 12:59

Hopefully you will get a scan before the weekend so that should help you make your decision about that. It is tempting but I understand exactly why you don't want to go as well!

Hoping you get your scan soon. At least you know - the uncertainty is awful isn't it?

wools · 04/04/2006 13:03

Could you go for a private scan do you think? (about £100 or so) That way, you wouldn't have to hang around waiting for a hospital appointment. I think the break would do you a bit of good but echo what Cece says.

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harrogatemum · 05/04/2006 13:08

I could but I dont really want to have to shell out if they would just say I have to wait a week too. I have rung the Early Preg Unit today as they have not rung me but its just the answerphone,I have left another message, just feel like I'm going round in circles.

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cece · 05/04/2006 14:40

harrogatemum

my second scan I went to the Gp and she organised it over the phone while I was there. That may be quickers.

How are you today?

I have started to bleed today 5 days after my ERPC but otherwise fine.

bettythebuilder · 05/04/2006 14:40

Hm, could you phone to speak to your GP to see if they can get you in for an 'emergency' scan? I know it's pushing it for today, but you never know. You must feel in limbo at the mo.

bettythebuilder · 05/04/2006 14:41

oh cece, great minds think alike!

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