Recurrent MC--Testing and beyond--Part 5 continues here

[LAF77]

Here is the list of us on the thread and where we are in our journey through RMC. Nearly 4,000 posts in a year, so mark your place for the next thread.

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Part two Part two

Part three Part three

Part four Part four

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April, second round of bloods in May, with results in June.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

Igggi I'm so sorry you're going through this again. It's just rotten . I'm glad, at least that Mr S is still hopeful that things can work out for you. maybe he will review your treatment for next time, or perhaps feels you have a better chance starting earlier with the steroids.

Sorry, I've been quiet on here these past few days. I'm faced with a bit of a dilemma at the moment. My stepmother passed away on Wednesday. She had been ill in hospital since the beginning of April, over in Costa Rica which is where my Dad and she have been living for the last 12 years or so. My stepsister, who lives in LA, has been over there and will be there until the end of the month but her 3 month compassionate leave will be over so she has to go back to work. Ideally I'd like to go out and give my Dad some support and company but due to work commitments wouldn't be able to go until August. Now, I don't know what to do about TTC. I'm pretty nervous about the prospect of long haul travel if I am newly pregnant and also of being in a tropical country. Especially one where my stepmother's death was very probably due to repeated error and negligence of the local hospital (that's another story which I won't go into). If I were younger, I would consider taking the 3 month break from TTC but the fact that my Mum and Grandmother both started their menopause around 43 (I'm 41) makes me feel like I can ill afford 3 months. I have had the relevant vaccinations as I was over there 2 years ago and I think they are still valid but I'm scared of taking any risks after 6 losses already. What would you lot do under these circumstances?

My apologies for lack of personals. My brain's a bit preoccupied at the moment.

Oh that's tough HavingKittens. Am sorry for your loss.
Is it a possibility to bring your dad over to you, rather than you to him? In many ways that would be a better break for him surely.
Bagsofholly if you see a doctor privately, the prescription will be private - I pay for 2 medicines myself.

Oh that's tough HavingKittens. Am sorry for your loss.
Is it a possibility to bring your dad over to you, rather than you to him? In many ways that would be a better break for him surely.
Bagsofholly if you see a doctor privately, the prescription will be private - I pay for 2 medicines myself.

Kittens, mummyabroad lives in Costa Rica. Perhaps you could PM her and ask about healthcare options over there. I remember her saying private treatment isn't too expensive over there.

Sorry for the loss of your stepmum.

Thank you. Unfortunately it won't be practical for my Dad to come over here. I don't have the space to put him up and he can't afford to stay in a hotel. Also, he has to go back to work. I guess I will have to play it by ear. As my OH has pointed out, I'm not pregnant yet so there's no point in worrying about it at this point. If it does become an issue I will PM mummyabroad, thanks coconuts. I will call him next week when he's back at work and see how the land lies.

It's just that I have loads left from my last cycle and can't face binning them. PM me, if you're interested.

I'm so sorry iggi. :(.

That's very kind of you BagofHolly - I am personally not prescribed Clexane and have enough Cyclagest for a couple of weeks into pregnancy, by which time I don't think I will have to pay for it as mine is an NHS prescription. But I'm sure someone will be only too delighted to take them off your hands.

I do hope so, they're just sitting in the cupboard!

iloveblue so sorry you've found yourself here on this thread. But welcome. I've not had a late loss but after three losses I was referred to a consultant by my epu and had all the recurrent miscarriage tests available at my hospital (anti-phospholipid and karyotyping) - I was sent to another to get a full thrombophilia screening (more clotting tests). I had an appointment where I ran through my pregnancy history and then we waited for the results. 2 months later I got the all clear at the same time as a bfp.
Unfortunately that didn't work out either and there was nothing else my consultant could do for me so I went to see Mr Shehata privately at the Miscarriage Clinic and am ttc on his treatment program.

Sorry to hear about your stepmother kittens - I hope you work out a way to be there for your dad.

Reiki was very emotional coconuts - but ultimately I came away feeling very positive.

Nice to hear from you lunatic. I feel like I've been on this thread for far too long without any progress - but that's not true, I've got a diagnosis.

Hope you're taking care of yourself igggi

Hi digitalgirl
Thanks for sharing your history with me - so sorry for your losses, and hope you get lucky this time. I've heard great things about Mr S.

Do you have NK cells?

I've had some more spotting this morning - have a scan at 3.15pm, but I'm expecting the worst really.

Hi all just came back from the epu. Everything was fine again. They agreed to a weekly scan. So i'm going back next week. The sonographer gave us 2 scan pictures this time. I wish I could tell her not to give me them as having the pictures will make any loss much harder now.

iloveblue I really hope it's good news and if you haven't started bleeding heavily it could well be. I had spotting and some cramping with my first pregnancy with ds - so I always cling onto hope until the very end. And yes, I do have high nk cells - which in some ways was a relief to find out after all previous tests had come back clear.

milkyway v pleased to hear all is still well. And weekly scans sounds like a great tlc approach.

brownb if you're lurking I hope you're ok. Wondering if you have a follow up scan this week.

Well I thought I'd fill you in a bit more on my reiki session. Like coconuts I'm also very much a skeptic on these matters. I hate it when people attribute miscarriages to negative thinking or god's will - as I either find it insulting (you saying I caused the mc by not smiling enough?) or ridiculous (so only praying, not a medical diagnosis will help my next pregnancy succeed?). Anyway, so when my sister suggested i book a Reiki session with a woman who also did a spiritual reading for her (ie a medium) I wasn't sure it was the right thing to do. Eventually I agreed that I got a lot out of visualising and chanting chakras in yoga and thought it couldn't hurt to give Reiki a go.
When it came to my session she said she would do a reading first - must admit I was curious so I agreed. Some of what she said was generic enough for me to rationalise away but other things were spooky. She picked up on the number 5 (5 pregnancies), knew March was significant (my last mc) and that it was about as much as I could take, and said next time would be fine. There was a bunch of other stuff which i wont bore you with. I know it could all be mumbo jumbo but she could have easily hedged her bets and said something a bit more vague. She did the reiki bit - during which I couldn't stop crying - and afterwards said she could visualise me giving birth to a fully grown baby. So I left feeling spooked, light headed but happy. Part of me - the hippy part - had actually been scared that she'd have bad news for me. But she couldn't have been more positive. She even picked up on my pcos. Said my right ovary was 'blocked'. All very weird, completely unscientific. My head is chuckling but my heart desperately wants to believe her.
Ok, you can all laugh now...

LAF77 thanks for the list of tests - At least I'll have an idea what they're going on about/what to expect!

digi Thanks for the heads-up about DH too...

I should have said that the CVS full-results showed that there was no translocation so in theory we're just very unlucky... My other (secret and not mentioned to DH) worry is that we had DS before DH went to Afghanistan for 6 months with the RAF, and then we've had the three losses since he's been back - anyone think there might be some mileage in this... I'll mention it to the hospital but don't think i should freak DH out yet...

Iggi and iloveblue sorry to hear about the bleeding :(

Adding myself to the list:

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.
KNITTERNOTTWITTER - Age 34 (DH age 41) DS1 born Aug 2008 (natural conception, easy, happy pregnancy, natural birth 10lb 6oz!) Loss 1: MC1 19 March 2010 - ruptured ectopic and left tube removed. Loss 2: MC2 22 July 2010 - Foetus seen at 5 weeks and HB at 7 weeks, no HB on spotting at 12 weeks, 8 weeks sized foetus found... ERPC 26 July 2010. Loss 3: April 2011 TOP - HB seen at 6 weeks and 9 weeks, large Nuchal measurement and bad bloods at 12 week scan - CVS - confirmed T21 and hydrops, no chromozonal translocation - removed by ERPC 15 April 2011 . Currently TTC and because of the three losses have been referred to St Georges, Tooting, Repeat Miscarriage Clinic - my first appointment is on the 9th of June...

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April, second round of bloods in May, with results in June.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day EDD 24/09/11
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 01/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

I am having my fourth MC at the moment. All have been under 9 weeks.

The thing is, will I be offered any investigations, being as they have not been in a row, and also because I already have two DC's? I had DS, then 2 MC's, then DD and another 2 MC's.

No idea what to ask for when I go to scan on Weds. Scan is just to check MC is complete.

TIA.

SleepyCaz sorry to hear that you think things aren't going well for your pregnancy. :(

I don't know what the policies are where you live but thought it was worth replying with my experience. I've had three losses now and have been referred to the repeat misscarriage clinic even though my losses aren't all 'typical' misscarriages - an ectopic, then a MMC then a TOP for Downs.

I'm sure that the fact your losses aren't consecutive shouldn't be a factor - I suggest that you push for a referral to a RMC - either the EPU or your doctor should refer you.

Hope that helps

I haven't been on for a few days and missed so much. DD1 has had v.high temp and sickness poor little thing but has now suddenly sprung back to normal thank goodness.

I am so sorry to hear your news igggi I was so hoping that everything would turn out right for you and can't believe you have to go through it all again. I'm glad Mr S is confident for the future. Big hugs to you x

milky so very pleased your scan went well and they have agreed to scan you weekly. I know what you mean about the pics I have pics for every week so far and kind of feel the same as you but what I do know is that the pictures wont make it any more/less painful if something happens.

kittens sorry about your stepmother. Not sure what I would do, its a tricky one but it might be a good idea to contact mummya like coconuts said if you find yourself pregnant and needing medical care.

Ilove hello honey sorry you feel you need to join us on here. I hope everything has turned out okay for you this afternoon. Please let us know how you got on.

sleepycaz welcome and again sorry you find yourself on here. The fact that you have had 2DC has no difference to when they test but most places wait until you have had the magical three mc (cause one isn't quite enough!) but its worth pushing it. I think some places may refer you after 2 but it really depends on where you live.

Hairy I know how you feel about giving up and if this pregnancy goes wrong I really don't know what I will do. It is such a painful experience to go through and very hard to try each time. I know you're terrified of having a scan - have you decided when you might have one? Sorry about your due date on Sunday I hope you didn't put too much pressure on yourself and you were looked after.

knitter Hi and again sorry you find yourself on here.

LAF not long now until your results - next week I think?

Hi to Digi and coconuts and anyone else who I haven't mentioned.

Hi luckyfor2

I'm sure I've 'met' you on another thread - we had similar mc experiences if I remember rightly.

The scan was inconclusive - they saw a 'cystic area' which is probably an early pregnancy but it was too early to tell if it was viable. I'm not quite 6wks.

They also saw a pocket of fluid which could be a burst cyst and would explain the spotting and pains. The midwife said it could also be implantation spotting although I thought that happened earlier.
I had blood taken to test hormone levels and have to go back on Weds morning.
I havn't had anymore bleeding (touch wood) and cramps have settled so its just wait and see I suppose.

The midwife went through what will happen if it does end badly again - we will be referred for testing. Will take 3 months all in all - so its nice to have a plan in place anyway.

iloveblue a small relief to find out what could be causing the spotting. I was told my bleeding in ds pregnancy was from implantation but it happened in weeks 4-8. Really hope you get an hcg rise tomorrow.

sleepycaz so sorry to hear you're going through your 4th miscarriage . I think some (but not all) consultants will test after two consecutive mc's especially if you've had 4 in total. Ask your gp to refer you to your local recurrent miscarriage clinic - this is sometimes part of the gynae dept or epu at some hospitals. Some epus will let you self refer if you tell them this is your fourth miscarriage. And if it's too difficult to call and make these enquiries ask your dh or a friend to do it.

Hi, hope things are going well for everyone today. I thought this mc was "over" but having strange pains this morning - I hope there is nothing left to come out. DH has caught the stomach bug I had and also hurt his back - I feel like he has hijacked my recovery time and there's no sympathy left for me!

Just a quickie for digi Sounds like the reiki was very positive. It is so hard in situations as these to not take everything they say and think Yes I'm cured but then OTOH, equally as hard to just say Meh it's all mumbo jumbo. The seed has been planted, as it were, in your brain. This is why I'm so skeptical.

I have never let my mum perform Reiki on me as I was too scared. Scared that she might actually make me believe and scared she would see my secrets and emotions and my insides and tell me something was definitively wrong with me and I'd never have another baby. I didn't want that finalisation, eventhough I can sit here and say I don't believe anyway, it would still have been in my head. I'm rambling now, but you get my gist

My mum has told me the sex of my two mc babies and knew DD would be a girl and knew this would be a boy. General things, she has a 50/50 chance of being wrong or right, and the sex of my babies I'd never know.

But OTOH, she has done a reiki on someone and sensed a tumour. That person was diagnosed with cancer within a matter of weeks. Spooky.

iggi Hope you are doing ok as can be.

caz sorry things aren't going well for you either

Waves to everyone else I haven't mentioned and who may be lurking.

Digital- it sounds like your reiki session has left you feeling positive which is a good thing. I actually love reiki healing music - I always listen to it to calm me down when i'm feeling stressed.

Sleepycaz - sorry you are having another mc. I agree with the others - you need to push your GP to refer you to a RMC as having 2 dc doesn't mean you might not have a problem. Whilst waiting to be referred you can have some tests done by your GP such as thyroid, prolactin and hormone tests during your cycle. I also recommend getting a vitamin D test done to see if you are deficient. You really need to push your doctors to get treatment which is unfortunate.

Lucky - hope your dd is better now, have you had a scan this week? Hope all is well.

Iloveblue - fx for rising hcg levels.

Iggi - with my second mc, my dh got chicken pox a day after my erpc, and then with my last mc he got the flu a day after my medical management. At first I was okay about it as it kept me busy but a few days later I completely broke down as it felt like he was getting all the attention. I hope you're resting yourself and feel better soon.

Thanks digi and milkyways
The midwife did mention implantation bleeding as a possibility but I thought it happened earlier. No spotting or cramps today and I've been feeling naseous so I'm feeling more positive.

I'm sorry for being so me-obsessed yesterday.
Forgot to ask how you are getting on lucky? How many weeks are you now?

I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through iggi and that you've had more pains.

sleepycaz - so sorry for your losses. I agree with digi and milky - you should push for a referral.

Cocomuts that is spooky about your mum.

igggi bloody men and their getting ill at the wrong time. Hope the stomach pains have gone for you though. Are you still bleeding?

coconuts yes, I don't think I'm 'healed' but my mindset is certainly more positive and it will be interesting to see if she's right about the next pregnancy going well. I've had so many people say 'this one's going to be fine I can feel it' and they've been wrong so it won't be any different for me should it happen again.

knitter I meant to respond to your 'secret' concern earlier. You should mention it at your rmc appointment and see if they will do a semen analysis to rule anything out. Just tell DH it's something they get every couple to do. Although I'm pretty sure that sperm quality only affects conception chances as opposed to miscarriage chances.

Did I mention my very strong positive opk I got this morning? And accompanying ovulation cramping and bloating? Am so so hoping this is it!

Evening ladies....

Not sure if anyone here can help but I've got myself in some bother...

I had my results appointment at St Marys today and one of my test (APA/APCR) which they are repeating today to confirm.... Mr Horner says that I can phone in four weeks for the results and if its positive then on the next BFP its Heprin and repeat of the TEG test... cant even remeber what he said about Asprin...

Only thing is..... I got my BFP tonight...... Now I feel stupid and I dont know what to do.... What will St Marys say? Will I have to go back next week...? Will my test today be screwed from the BFP...?

Sorry Ladies... Just not sure what to do now....