Apologies for TMI: but please DESCRIBE dischargeof miscarriage TIA

[Diamondsamdrubies]

Am 8 weeks 1 today. However, been having brown discharge at EVERY wipe after every loo visit since Tuesday. Even had dark brown thick clots. Period like cramping on and off. Scan due Tuesday. Just wanting to know if this is what a miscarriage looks and feels like TIA

Freelancegirl: Thankyou for your invaluable support. I appreciate thisso much. With regards to the optimism- it's difficult to take on board as the bleeding is regular and well established now- it's fresh too. I think I am miscarrying as you were last weekend. Bemybebe only had one big bleed. I've had the discharge since Tuesday which has developed into period like blood. I just wish I knew where we will go from here. If we go on to get pregnant again - is there anything we should do differently in order to ensure less chance of miscarriage. Took us so long to achieve pregnancy don't know where we would go now. Didn't even think it could get any worse. Thought our fortunes had turned: we were destined to be parents after all- maybe not! It's a cruel hand to be dealt. Like you say, to share the pain here makes it more bearable. I will take you on the pm -hope you don't come to regret it! x

Sorry! Damned phone playing up!

Hi guys,

Do you mind if I join?

I'm 10+ weeks and started bleeding on Thursday, brownish light-period type bleeding. Went to hosp and they said tummy was soft it was probably spotting then it started again yesterday afternoon, brown again. Rang midwife who, like you Diamonds booked me in for an early scan on Tuesday and told me to lie flat for 48 hours. (Easier said than done when DP at work and the dogs need walking.)

Its the not knowing thats doing my head in and I'm lying here bored so its all I'm thinking about. Have had a very stressful time recently with bereavement and bad news everywhere and stress at work and keep going over what I should have done differently.

Plus, after the smooth experience of pregnancy 1, we didnt expect this so we got a bit cocky and told quite a few people which just seems a bit silly now :-(

I hope it ends well for you- it seems there IS hope but it doesnt help at this stage does it?.

Hi magic! Hope all goes well for you. The waiting is the worst part of it. As im still bleeding like a period bleed- I think that's it for us. Like you, I'm on my own at the mo. Dh away on business. Will return this evening. Dreading breaking the news to him. My dad in a high dependency unit up north with chest infection. The only saving grace is that we hadn't told anyone else yet: as it took us so long to achieve this pregnancy in the first place. Hadn't anticipated this. :-(

Ahh I feel so awful for you girls sitting and waiting and not knowing the outcome. I do hope it's a good one. Even though I had the worst outcome however I feel much better now I am on the other side of that waiting thing. At least then you can start to move forward. And remind me never to need medical attention again on a weekend....Magic there's nothing you could have done differently so try not to stress. If it was going to happen, it was going to happen.

In terms of what to do next - whether/when to start again, this is my next dilemma too. I have started posting on the Conception board, there's a post called something along the lines of 'trying again after MCC' but it's a really long title. It's good though - go to the end and you will see what advice I have received about trying.

But what I am going to do this time is:

-Am thinking of waiting until first period (can someone tell me what AF stands for!). This seems to be more convenient for dating (which I don't really care about as can be done by a scan) but there are some people who say they have mc again soon afterwards so it might be better to wait for first AF. Might be frustrating to wait though as this can take a while. BUT having not really been 'baby-minded' before I think it's amazing what the hormones have done post mc and now I feel I want to try as soon as pos.

-Have already asked doc to check thyroid levels (I have ongoing treatment), selenium levels, check for sticky blood.

-Am going to take Selenium as I have high thyroid antibodies and this can help.

• I have had one definite and one possible mc before (over 15 years ago!) so the doc referred me to specialist. I imagine this appt will take a while to come through so am going to go ahead and start TTC after first AF (all new terms to me but am learning :) )

As you might be able to tell by my frequent posting I am a bit welded to MN and the computer at the mo doing a lot of research and really feeling the benefit of support from chatting to you all.

Diamonds happy to chat. I might PM you my number as never PM'ed before and I have yet to work out to do it. It can't be brain surgery though. Magic same goes for you, if you want to call and chat PM me for number as I hate to think of both of you sitting there and waiting with no-one to vent to who understands :(

Thanks so very much Freelancegirl. That's very kind. Am in two minds where we go from here. Think will have long chat with Dh and see. Stupid I know, but thought getting pregnant would result in a baby. Never thought of the pitfalls. You never think it can happen to you, do you. But this is definitely the best place to be for the support.
AF stands for " aunt flo"- another term for period.

I have PMed you freelance girl. Right at the top of the page, your inbox will be yellow with a red dot in it: signalling you have a new message. Click onto that. X :-)

Aunty Flo!!! Now I know... Have PMd you back :) Be strong too magic. Our thoughts are with you xx

Thanks both. Have been lying as still as I can as advised but cant help thinking that what will be will be regardless of how much you move about (within reason of course!).

Will see how it goes over the next couple of days and get back to you one way or the other. Best of luck.

xx

Good luck magic. Fx for you. Keep us updated. Thinking of you at this horrible horrible time that we are both going through x

Hi Diamonds, how are you this morning? Did you tell DHaka? I Hope he's looking after you. No change here. Just want to get on with things either way. Sagging.

Thinking of you all ladies x

Thanks Amber. Keep those fingers crossed.
Magic: red bleeding continuing since waking. None while asleep. Waiting for clots to make an appearance.
Dh returned yesterday evening. He's been very supportive. I've completely crumbled and turned into an emotional mess.

Hi Magic: has discharge eased up now? My bleeding definitely heavier and darker red in colour on the pad. Bright red on the tissue. I'm certain this is the end of this pregnancy. Hope you have a better time of it than I'm having at the moment. Dh can't do enough for me- shame the bleed shows no sign of stopping. :-(

Hi Diamonds, come onto computer as totally useless on phone!

Discharge stops when I keep still but as soon as I move around it starts again. Still 'old' blood. Think its just inevitable tho'. Breast tenderness has disappeared and stopped sickness etc suspiciously early on. So upsetting isnt it? Having to try and entertain DD but all I can think of is how much she was looking forward to helping with 'the baby'.

Dont think DP knows what to do with himself as hes cleaning the entire kitchen from top to bottom- quite unusual!

Very thankful for this support ladies, xxx

Bloody hell, I can't wait until Tues when we can hopefully get some positive news for you two. News from the other side of mc - still bleeding. It's been 9 days now since I started spotting (8 days since bleeding properly). Going back to hospital next week (just got to go queue in EPU I think) to check whether it's all gone. Might do that on Tues too - so will be a big date for all of us. Really keeping my fingers crossed for both of you xx

Thankyou freelance girl. Hope you get the go ahead to start ttc again and draw a line under this most unfortunate and sad blip xxx

Oh no, so sorry to hear what you're all going through. I just think it's disgusting that you can't get a scan immediately. Fingers x'd there's some good news, thinking of you all.

freelance do you get a follow scan as standard? I've been mc'ing since Wednesday and just have to poas on Wednesday. Think just want to see a bfn. Hope you're ok, saw you joined the conception thread. They're just lovely over there.

Ooh, yes I was brave and joined conception board! Still bleeding 'n' all...

How's everything going for you Harassed? Bleeding still? I have been quite heavy today and still the occasional dizzy spell and so damn hungry!

No I don't think you get another scan as standard. It was mentioned by the EPU who I went for a chat with after the scan that showed nothing was moving and what was there was 'on it's way out'. They sent me over to the EPU so I could talk to a doctor after scan. They I made an appt with my GP to see what tests might be done and she also mentioned to go back to EPU and check. Not sure if she said once I had stopped bleeding or 'next week' or whatever so am still unsure when to go. It's all a lot to take in isn't it.

I think you need to go and make sure you have one though, however it is arranged. Do all hospitals have EPUs? It's all so new to me... Check if yours has one and/or ask your GP to arrange a scan.

Maybe I should post here to see if anyone else knows whether to arrange a scan for when stopped bleeding or after a certain amount of time. I started bleeding last friday so have been going a 9 days now.

Is poas pee on a stick? Did they tell you to do that? Maybe I should do that too? I might have vague memory of it being mentioned now you mention it, but again it's hard to take it all in. Next time I might go with an audio recorder!

Maybe we should both poas and then both arrange scans and then both take a deep breath and start again.

I'm quite well acquainted with my epu unfortunately. It's the place right next to maternity...... with the same entrance so you can walk past the shop with "New Baby" gumf whilst you're mc'ing. Nice......

I'm still bleeding, but not much. In a way it feels worse in a kind of "is that it??!" way, when mentally I feel so rubbish. But then I only had my mmc in Jan, so it's not surprising really!

I was scanned on Wed to confirm what was happening, but my bloods came back as HCG levels of 6 so practically non-existent anyway. The poas (yes, peeing on a stick) is to confirm all the hcg has left your system.

Going for some blood tests in the morning as I won't get referred until I've had 3 consecutive mc's which is a bit crap!

But yes, will me starting to ttc again. I didn't wait before, just didn't get a bfp before first af.

Am worried about rumours that there might be probs with next one if the lining or whatever isn't ready...? Hence waiting for the first af. Part of me just wants to jump right back on the bang wagon though.

I feel the same as you - thinking is this it? When it is going to stop?

Yeah I haven't had three recurring mcs either (one I suspect was a mc when was 19 one definite at 20 and am 36 now! Obv different men...) but my doc mentioned a referral to St Mary's before I did! That was my end goal when I went for the appt so was surprised she came up with it. Am aware it might not get accepted and I think I will ttc before I hear from them anyway.

Tests I asked my doc to do anyway were for selenium and sticky blood. Now I also think we should have a think about progesterone - know anything about that?

But yes, see if you can organise a scan this week and see what they say. Am assuming hcg levels need to be zero? and then we will get a BFN?

Hi all,

How is everyone this morning? It all sounds very confusing freelance and harassed. I suppose I assumed a miscarriage is sudden and dramatic like in the films and not drawn-out and frustrating like this. I certainly know what you mean about just wanting to get on with it and over it but it doesn't sound like the professionals are much help either.

Everyone around me seems to be optimistic or at least looking on the bright side but I just have the feeling this is not going to turn out well as all my pregnancy symptoms have gone now- sickness, tiredness (feeling fit as a fiddle curiously), sore chest, wanting to pee all the time, ravenous hunger etc..

Anyway, I had a sneaky peak at the TTC after MC page on Conception and it seems like a really friendly and helpful thread so I may well be joining you all soon once tomorrows scan is over and we know where we are.

How are you doing Diamonds?

Hi magic: not looking good at all over here, I'm afraid. Passed some massive clots into toilet since the morning. Bleeding quite bad. Pain like a normal period. Definitely miscarrying today. At least we can draw a line under this and decide where we want to go from here. :-(

Oh Diamonds, much sympathy for you. Look after yourself today and lets see what the scan tomorrow brings. Its such a horrible, unique and quite lonely experience isn't it?

From looking at other posts here it seems this up and down mood swing thing is very common and I must admit one minute I'm feeling very low and sad and hopeless and useless and the next I'm thinking 'what will be will be' and about all the things I WILL be able to do this summer like enjoy a glass of wine on holiday, maybe (just maybe) drop a bit of weight, overhall the garden, sort out the crisis at work.

I dont know about you but I am looking forward to a nice glass of red and a box of maltesers as soon as this is all over .

Is your Dad doing OK? Its tough not to go looking for causes and in my case I've had the most stressful start to the year so far- I cant help thinking it has had something to do with it. I always thought of myself as a tough old boot. Although maybe being old is also a factor !

Sending you a big mumsnet hug to help you through..

Oh diamonds I'm so very sorry. I know it's hard, but do make sure it's logged down on your medical records. You really must be kind to yourself and do what you have to do to get through this. I was off work for nearly 3 weeks with my mmc, but have forced myself in this time with only one day off.

magic still have my fingers x'd for you.

As for me, well the bleeding is next to nothing now but still quite crampy which I don't get. Mentally....... well 2 mc's in 3 months certainly throw you! It's a struggle to get up, to do anything really. I'd just like to stay at home in my own little bubble with dd and dh to be perfectly honest. Forced myself to go out at the weekend though, and in work today. I had my blood tests done this morning and it bloody hurt! I have small veins and she made a right mess of it, and had to do both arms as my veins were collapsing....

Huge hugs to you x