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vaginal hysterectomy

99 replies

halfpint1967 · 13/07/2015 13:54

hi all
because of problems with polyps&heavier bleeding with clots the gyny has given me the option of having one of these
just wondering if anyone whos had this for whatever reason can tell me their experiences&if when meno really does rear its ugly head if having it done reduces any of the symptoms?they will leave ovaries behind
im48&have been told twice that im not meno or peri meno yet
tia

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slkk · 13/07/2015 21:45

I didn't want mirena either. Didn't want the hormones and didn't want to have to replace it every 5 years. Just wanted problem solved quickly and permanently with ablation.

Costacoffeeplease · 13/07/2015 21:50

I had an abdominal hysterectomy, so my experience was different, but it was still the best thing ever, if you've got the option for vaginal, do it (I didn't have the choice)

halfpint1967 · 13/07/2015 22:09

costcocoffeplease can i ask why u had to have the abdominal hyst?
silkk i feel the same!just want the problem sorted&no more going in&out for hysteroscopys etc
i have to have them done under ga as i find even the smear test painful!(few ongoing long term probs)

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Costacoffeeplease · 13/07/2015 22:13

Because I had large fibroids, so they couldn't be removed any other way - I wasn't bothered, just hearing 'you need a hysterectomy' was music to my ears! I was diagnosed on the Sunday and had the op on the Wednesday, home the following Saturday after blood and iron transfusions to treat the terrible anaemia I didn't know I had!!

Costacoffeeplease · 13/07/2015 22:14

If something is neither useful nor ornamental - it's time to get ridSmile

halfpint1967 · 13/07/2015 22:20

indeed!Grin
glad they did it really quick for you too!

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pinkfrocks · 13/07/2015 22:27

costa I fully respect your view but a hysterectomy is a major operation and there is always the risk of side effects and damage to other organs. Thankfully these are rare, but it's not an operation to go into lightly, which is why dr prefer to use ablation or the Mirena first and even drugs like the Pill or Tramex. acid.
many drs won't do the operation unless other methods are tried first. The rate of hysterectomies for bleeding has dramatically decreased over recent years and they are now usually only done for cancer, huge fibroids and prolapse. The uterus does have a function- to support other organs that can prolapse when it's gone.
I think I;d be guided by the dr.

Kewcumber · 13/07/2015 22:30

I had a mirena put in for bleeding and it was a bloody miracle - had it done under a general whilst they were doing a biopsy so didn;t even have to have it put in awake! A friedn had identical (in fact worse) problems and they were also sorted by Mirena.

At 48 you won;t have to have it replaced every 5 years it would probably take you through the menopause.

I don;t say any of this to convince you (like pinkfrocks I would try everything prior to surgery because I've had a lot of surgery and its not ideal) because you're obviously unconvincable but because I don't want others reading to believe that having a Mirena coil fitted is some kind of "horror story".

The worst horror story would be having to have the coil removed. The "horror" of a hysterectomy going wrong is significantly worse so I don't think its fair to talk about Mirena and "horror" in the same breath.

Kewcumber · 13/07/2015 22:33

I had a mirena fitted 20+ years ago when they were pretty new. My young on the ball female gynae was scathiing about the rate of hysterectomies her older male usually private colleagues were performing without trying alternatives such as Mirena. Apparently she even gave a lecture to them to tell them off Grin I suspect it was couched somewhat differently.

Limer · 13/07/2015 22:35

In answer to OP's previous questions - I had the Mirena for many years beforehand since the birth of my second and final baby - and it was great for about ten years, but then I gradually started bleeding more and more. I was offered ablation but the gynaecologist said it probably wouldn't last more than a couple of years and I'd be back to square one. I was on transexamic (?) acid too, which as far as I was concerned made no difference at all.

I was signed off work for 6 weeks (standard time for hysterectomy I think) but went back earlier as I was healthier than I'd been for years a week after the op. Didn't stop lifting, didn't stop driving.

slkk · 13/07/2015 22:37

I agree hysterectomy isn't offered lightly. It may be that the ablation is a good compromise for you, op. Without my complications, I think it would have solved my problem.

Costacoffeeplease · 13/07/2015 22:45

Do you pink ? it doesn't sound like it

If you are offered a hysterectomy, take it

halfpint1967 · 13/07/2015 22:49

yes im definately gonna read up properly on ablation&talk to gyny about it before i make my decision whats best for me.
i know that i definately dont want the Mirena though!
if its worked for u kewcumber&pinkfrocks great but its not for me
each to their own Smile

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Kewcumber · 13/07/2015 22:56

I didn't want the Mirena either so I do understand.

ClaimedByMe · 13/07/2015 22:57

My mum bitterly regrets not getting it done when the gp first offered it, it transformed her life. She had tried all the treatments available but 20 years ago I guess there wasn't as much as there is now.

paxtecum · 14/07/2015 05:32

Pink frocks: vaginal hysterectomy needs a highly skilled surgeon for it to be successful. There is a greater risk of complications with a vaginal hysterectomy.
www.emedicinehealth.com/hysterectomy-health/page4_em.htm

paxtecum · 14/07/2015 05:35

Looking at other online comparisons, they all concentrate on the immediate benefits, ie the op is shorter and therefore more cost effective.
I wonder if they take into account complications that arise months after the op.

halfpint1967 · 14/07/2015 07:40

probably not paxetcum as saving moneys what its all about theae days sadly!will have a proper read of that link later.i like to read&get as much info on things as poss before i can make an informed decision on what happens to my body.
always ask lots of questions at all my apps which prob drives my gyny mad but never mind!Grin
thats why i started this thread in the first place to get as much help&advice as poss from people who have already gone through the different proceedures.
thanks to all for yr repliesSmile

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pinkfrocks · 14/07/2015 07:51

Pax- I know that and agree. What I said was that there is a risk of prolapse after a hysterectomy - whichever way it's done- because it depends on the woman's body not only the skill of the surgeon. Yes, vaginal procedures are harder because there is less space to work in and only women with certain conditions are suitable for vag, hysters.

Costa You are entitled to your opinion but as Kewcumber said, and I agree with her, it's important for women reading here (and who may not ever post) to know the facts and up to date medical options.

Hysterectomies for heavy periods have declined hugely- because other options are safer , quicker and often as effective. As Kewcumber said, it's very 'old school' drs who reach for the scalpel without offering other treatments first.

There are women who have hysterectomies who have no problems- great. Some women are damaged internally and do have 'horror' stories - either through sheer bad luck or cack handed drs! The risks of a major operation are always there and it's not as simple as if 'you don't need it' (for producing a baby) then whip it out.

At 48 the OP is likely to only have periods for another 3-4 years. One Mirena would last that long. An ablation would probably last that long.
The risks of the Mirena include weight gain and moodiness for some women - and it can easily be removed if this is the problem. It's hardly a 'horror'. If it pain on insertion that is worrying you OP then you could have a GA.

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but it's important that we stick to facts with medical operations and not only personal experiences.

Costacoffeeplease · 14/07/2015 08:15

I think experience, rather than opinion is extremely useful - I have spoken to many, many women post-hysterectomy, and none have had any problems, and all without exception said it's the best thing they've done

There's always a lot of scaremongering on hysterectomy threads, and I'm heartily sick of it - yes, you might have problems post surgery, but it is not common, the vast majority of women will have no ill effects whatsoever. There is a risk in any surgery - and crossing the road we could get hit by a bus, we all take risks every

Costacoffeeplease · 14/07/2015 08:17

A friend had a vaginal hysterectomy about a week after my op, her recovery was amazing, she was up and about and driving way before me, and almost 3 years on, is absolutely fine, and again, extremely glad she had surgery

pinkfrocks · 14/07/2015 09:15

I don't disagree with you costa that most women are fine, but I think where we do have a difference of opinion is a) what the hysterec. was for ( options exist for heavy periods but not for some other conditions) and b) all drs have different ways of solving the same problem.

I think the fact that the OP is 48 has a lot to do with my view. she may be in meno in 2 years and it all depends on how much the heavy periods affect her life.

Costacoffeeplease · 14/07/2015 09:19

I'm 50 this year, so had my op at 47

halfpint1967 · 14/07/2015 09:39

pinkfrocks its not just me finding it painful thats putting me off the Mirena&i havent&dont just read threads on peoples bad experiences with it.i also read up on statistics&real reported side effects&probs with it.
its not just weight gain&mood swings which are bad enough but also it can take up to3months for the Mirena to embed itself&yr body to get used to it&can cause horrendous pain!!
it can also 'get lost'&they have to operate on u to find it!
plus bad acne etc etc i could go on!
so im not saying any of this lightly without thinking about it i can assure u!
ive made my mind up that i do not want the Mirena based on facts&figures not just peoples personal opinions or experiences!
as ive already said i need to read up some more on ablation&the vaginal hyst as well as the other types of hyst before i make my informed decision about whats gonna happen to my body!Smile

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slkk · 14/07/2015 09:39

The robot assisted op is quite new. Apparently they fill you with air (?) to create space so they can operate more safely and accurately. And remove all through belly button. Not everyone is suitable for this though as I think it puts more strain on other organs during surgery. Not sure of details though. Good luck with everyone considering these options.