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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - Pre-Christmas '24 Low Carb Bootcamp - the first weigh-in!

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BIWI · 28/10/2024 08:43

Morning all!

Here's the link to the spreadsheet

Hopefully you will have seen a good result on the scales (or with your measurements/clothes) in this first week. @CarbONothing is half a stone down, which is brilliant Flowers

If you haven't lost/much, don't be downhearted. If this is a new WOE for you, sometimes it can take a while for your body to work out what it's supposed to do.

I have noticed, though, that there's been a fair bit of 'laxness' (which is the word I shall use with some leniency Wink), and although all that may have been justified, just remember this is supposed to be the first, strict, part of Bootcamp!

Thank you for posting the chicken soup recipe @islandtiger /@islandbengal - it does sound delicious. I would, though, bother with the faffing around with the skin, as crispy chicken skin is totally gorgeous.

Anyway, here's to a good week for us all.

Autumn 2024 Bootcamp

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AUEHin0tB7wq2D_bKWdUnN3QlZq2Nwzab9CUYgRRymk/edit?gid=1892381976#gid=1892381976

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LCagain · 28/10/2024 15:14

Full fat Greek yoghurt

biglongeyelashes · 28/10/2024 15:15

why is FFGY better than low/no fat ?

can we have lots of eggs ? my go to is scrambled egg/omelete (no cheese/milk for either) with ham/chicken

Bootcamp272 · 28/10/2024 15:19

Hi all - first proper week for me as I only found you at the end of last week. I’ll be doing IF as well between 12 & 8. Some brilliant losses so far.

So far today I’ve had a fridge picnic! Olives, chorizo and cheese, followed by a dollop of FFGY.

Shopping after work to stock up. Any recommendations for snacky bits?

prettybird · 28/10/2024 15:26

biglongeyelashes · 28/10/2024 15:15

why is FFGY better than low/no fat ?

can we have lots of eggs ? my go to is scrambled egg/omelete (no cheese/milk for either) with ham/chicken

Have you read The Rules? Confused

You want FFGY because you need the fat.

This is a High Fat Low Carb Way of Eating.

And why aren't you putting cheese into your omelette/scrambled eggs? Actually, rather than milk, try adding cream to your scrambled eggs. Makes for luscious scrambled eggs and is exactly what is encouraged on Boot Camp Smile

TheOnlyMrsW · 28/10/2024 15:59

Have failed miserably to pick up gochujang paste from anywhere near us - closest was Tesco with a space on the shelf but no stock so will have to improvise. A quick Google suggest sriracha with extra sugar so will have a think.........it's very sweet to start with

BIWI · 28/10/2024 16:18

biglongeyelashes · 28/10/2024 15:15

why is FFGY better than low/no fat ?

can we have lots of eggs ? my go to is scrambled egg/omelete (no cheese/milk for either) with ham/chicken

@biglongeyelashes all of this information is in the prep thread, and the spreadsheet, as well as in the FAQ that I linked to.

Page 2 | Low Carb Bootcamp FAQs | Mumsnet

This thread is about the most often asked questions on Bootcamp, and/or about low carbing. Each post will deal with a separate question. If there'...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/low_carb_bootcamp/4049535-Low-Carb-Bootcamp-FAQs?reply=118903269

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Magnolia82 · 28/10/2024 16:48

Thank you @SpinningTops for your reply on the other thread.

@BIWI - Yes, I am already at a healthy BMI (hope it's ok to be here?) but I know I feel and look better a few pounds lighter. I've got a small frame and every extra pound seems to be on my stomach. I generally feel better eating low carb (and have been mainly eating this way in between bootcamps) so will just keep going.

BIWI · 28/10/2024 16:49

Of course it's OK to be here @Magnolia82! Smile

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Okaygoahead · 28/10/2024 16:53

I have been wondering about electrolyte levels with all the water I'm ingesting - I think that probably everything is in order if I keep sodium levels up by adding salt and make sure to eat many leafy veg, but is there any danger glucose levels might actually get too low? I've had a couple of (extremely brief) woozy moments in the last week and I wonder if that's why.

prettybird · 28/10/2024 17:31

@Okaygoahead - some people use electrolyte tablets but instead I add a good shake of Lo:Salt and a squoosh of lemon juice to every 2nd pint of water I drink and that seems to keep me balanced Smile

FinallyHere · 28/10/2024 17:37

@ABirdsEyeView done

@costevo done

Your wish, my command.

costevo · 28/10/2024 17:48

FinallyHere · 28/10/2024 17:37

@ABirdsEyeView done

@costevo done

Your wish, my command.

Thank you

LCagain · 28/10/2024 18:06

Wow, cream in scrambled eggs sounds amazing!

ABirdsEyeView · 28/10/2024 18:21

Thank you @FinallyHere

Rayna37 · 28/10/2024 18:27

I'm similarly sized to @Magnolia82 and @SpinningTops I think, 5'3", and a long term low carber just trying to keep on top of middle aged weight creep. Need to make some room in my winter coat, and anything else that needs to button at the front!

Thistle72 · 28/10/2024 19:21

I’m happy today I’ve lost 3lbs I think I should be able to get meals a bit more fine tuned in week 2. Ive had lighter breakfast then salad and protein for lunch, which has worked better for me these last 2 days. The newest things for me is so much green veg, I’ve had loads these last few days and it’s made such a difference to my digestion 💩 I had a chicken and cream sauce with runner beans and it was so nice. I want to try celeriac this week, I’ve never had it.

BIWI · 28/10/2024 19:22

@Okaygoahead

Key info about carb flu (which is on the FAQ thread:

7. What is carb flu?
Carb flu, or keto flu as it’s sometimes called, occurs as your body transitions from burning sugar (i.e. carbs) to burning fat for most of its energy needs.
Switching from a high-carb diet to a very-low-carb diet lowers insulin levels in your body, one of the primary goals of a ketogenic diet.

When insulin levels are very low, your liver begins converting fat into ketones, which most of your cells can use in place of glucose.

When your body is mainly using ketones and fat for energy, you’re in a state of ketosis.

However, it takes your brain and other organs some time to adapt to using this new fuel. When your insulin levels drop, your body responds by excreting more sodium in the urine, along with water.

Because of this, you’ll likely find yourself urinating a lot more often in the first week or so of low carb eating.

This change is responsible for some of the rapid – and usually very welcome! – weight loss that happens in the early stages of a low carb diet. However, losing a lot of water and sodium is responsible for many of the unpleasant symptoms of carb flu.

It’s well known that response to this transition is very individual. Some people may feel fine or slightly tired for a day or two after starting low carbing. At the other extreme, there are those who develop symptoms that strongly impact their ability to function for several days.

These are the classic symptoms of carb flu:
• Fatigue
• Headache
• Irritability
• Difficulty focusing (“brain fog”)
• Lack of motivation
• Dizziness
• Sugar cravings
• Nausea
• Muscle cramps

You may only get one or two – you may be lucky and not suffer at all! But if your current diet is very high in carbs, prepare yourself for this.
However, carb flu doesn’t have to be unbearable and there are things you do to get through it and make it less unpleasant.

(Adapted from www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/flu-side-effects)

8. So how do we avoid, or at least deal with, carb flu?
There are three key electrolytes which you need to be consuming when you’re low carbing – low levels of these contribute towards your symptoms. These are sodium, magnesium and potassium.

Sodium is the easiest one to deal with, and The Diet Doctor suggests this:
“During the first few weeks of your keto lifestyle, whenever you develop a headache, lethargy, nausea, dizziness or other symptoms, drink a glass of water with half a teaspoon of salt stirred into it. This simple action may alleviate your keto flu symptoms within 15 to 30 minutes. Feel free to do this twice a day or more, if needed”

Magnesium and potassium can be found in foods like salmon, avocado, spinach and full fat natural yoghurt.

You can also take an electrolyte supplement, like Zero

9. Why do you recommend that we consume more salt – I thought too much salt was bad for us?
As well as stored carbs holding on to water, they also hold on to sodium. So when you restrict your carbohydrate intake, it’s not only water that’s excreted but also sodium. Sodium is one of the key electrolytes that your body needs.
We’re told that too much salt (aka sodium) is bad for us, so many people do restrict their usage of salt. It’s quite common for me to read on Bootcamp threads that people aren’t cooking with it or using it on their food because of this. If you were to continue to eat a high carbohydrate diet this would be fine, but when we’re low carbing, we’re ‘washing out’ a lot of sodium too – and there are dangers in a diet that’s too low in sodium.

There’s a lot of contradictory findings about this, but there are some suggestions that a diet that’s too low in sodium:

can increase insulin resistance (which is when your body’s cells don’t respond well to signals from the hormone insulin, leading to higher insulin and blood sugar levels)
may increase your risk of dying from heart disease
may increase your risk of dying from heart failure
may increase your LDL (bad) cholesterol and triglycerides
may increase your risk of death if you have diabetes (Type 1 or 2)
is associated with hyponatremia, a condition characterized by low levels of sodium in the blood. Its symptoms are similar to those caused by dehydration. In severe cases, the brain may swell, which can lead to headaches, seizures, coma, and even death. Certain populations, like older adults, have a higher risk of hyponatremia, because older adults are more likely to have an illness or take medication that can reduce sodium levels in the blood.

(Source: //www.healthline.com/health/hyponatremia)

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Nightvax · 28/10/2024 20:06

Thanks for that article @BIWI
well done on losses everyone, I only started properly yesterday but am already 1lb down so hope it continues that way, I have lots to lose!!

Is coconut water bootcamp friendly? I’ve read that it’s good for electrolyte levels

islandtiger · 28/10/2024 21:27

Good to catch up on everyone's progress. @BIWI Thanks for the info from the FAQ thread which I hadn't read before. I think I understand ketosis a bit better now. Wondering if I can blame irritability on carb flu. A swim tomorrow should cure that.

islandtiger · 28/10/2024 21:35

Oops sent too soon. I lost 4lb which I'm really pleased about. I'm measuring water in litre jugs and I'm sure it helps. I'm managing 2 litres a day plus tea / herb tea/ coffee ( one of each). It's a small miracle that I'm not craving alcohol although the temptation to celebrate next week might be too strong. Today was more snacky eating than proper meals. A boiled egg for breakfast, an avocado with extra oil and chilli flakes for lunch, a snack of anchovies, manchego and pimento olives around 6. Then that delicious lemon and thyme chicken from the recipe thread with buttery Brussels sprouts and Konjac rice. Fondly known as 'frogspawn' in our house. Cooked up in a stock cube it's really quite tasty and is full of fibre I think? 🤔. Good luck this week everyone, and as someone said earlier KOKO.

NotDonna · 28/10/2024 22:28

Good day today with a new flavour discovery of Puka’s tea - Winter Warmer - it’s really lovely!
Bfast - FFGY with splash of cream; coffees with almond milk
lunch - veggie curry (so much kale) with dollop sour cream
dinner - cottage pie with swede top & side if veggies.
a decent amount of water but could have been. And the gorgeous Winter Warmer puka tea.

Okaygoahead · 28/10/2024 23:07

@BIWI thank you for recapping the info on the thread. Again, the lesson is, if you have a question, it's probably already been answered! Although I was coming at it from the wrong angle, more from the point of view of being concerned that so much water was somehow 'diluting' my electrolytes. (I know, I know, tell me you're not a nutritionist without telling me you're not a nutritionist 🙄).

@prettybird , thanks for the excellent advice.

Anyway, I won't stint with the salt, and I'll keep up with the salmon, avocado and spinach! Part of my goal for this bootcamp is to lose weight to help moderate my blood pressure and possibly avoid having to use meds - I'm on a trial with my doctor to see if lifestyle changes will suffice. An important part of that is keeping up potassium levels, so always on the lookout for ways to combine low-carb with potassium-rich foods.

prettybird · 28/10/2024 23:13

@Okaygoahead - An important part of that is keeping up potassium levels, so always on the lookout for ways to combine low-carb with potassium-rich foods.

That's why the Lo:Salt is good because it's main ingredient is potassium (rather than Sodium) Smile

Okaygoahead · 28/10/2024 23:16

@prettybird , good to know, I'll have a look for it online, not sure I'll be able to find it in shops where I am.

Pash01 · 28/10/2024 23:18

I'm down 3.8 lbs and so happy to see the scale moving in the right direction again! 🙃

I also just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who contributes to these threads. I’m more of a quiet reader, but I’m finding all the tips, meal plans, and recipes really inspiring. This week, I made a low-carb Thai coconut soup for my lunches and a low-carb cottage pie with celeriac mash for dinner with the family—it was a huge hit! I’m planning to try the Ottolenghi recipe next. Thanks so much for all the wonderful ideas!