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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread

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prettybird · 10/06/2023 08:47

This is the prep thread for the new Boot Camp that will be starting on 19 June.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from @BIWI ‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues, you need to make your own choices.

@FinallyHere - can you post a link to an old Spreadsheet of Fabulousness please Flowers. It will let people have a look at some of the resources on it. (It’s difficult for me to do it from my phone).

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have say breakfast but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away Wink

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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prettybird · 17/06/2023 23:01

Congratulations on your run @ditavonteesed - I need to build back up to those sort of distances (when I was running regularly which was a veeeeery long time ago Blush, I only really warmed up and relaxed after I'd gone 4 miles! Shock

Bring older and sensible now, I have to force myself to do shorter runs (c3.5km) before building up again. I'd got to c.6km in April but then stopped for various reasons.

If you're not wanting to lose more weight, which you're doing on Boot Camp Light, maybe have a think about which bits of this WoE you could relax without falling off the wagon. Try and keep eating "clean" but maybe have some granola or real sourdough bread or some new potatoes or more of the "red" veg and fruit.

Can I ask though that you don't talk too much on the Boot Camp threads if you decide to do that as it could be triggering or confusing for newbies. But I know you'd be able to judge the appropriate way to mention it.

Iirc there's a maintenance thread but it didn't get much traffic. You could revive it and ask for advice.

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prettybird · 17/06/2023 23:08

@Gingerwarthog - given that we've not even started yet, you've already shown that this WoE will work for you!

You will of course be dropping the wine, strawberries and Rice Krispies from Monday Grin You can get the wine and strawberries (in moderation) back in 2 weeks Wink but not the Rice Krispies

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prettybird · 17/06/2023 23:15

@PhilomenaShitpeas - from memory (on my phone at the moment), swap the red onions for shallots (Lidl sells bags of reasonably priced echallion shallots, which are bigger and easier to peel) and it'll then be a fantastic dish compatible with this WoE.

In fact, you should post the recipe up on the vegetarian recipe thread. Smile

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ditavonteesed · 18/06/2023 00:42

@prettybird how far did you used to run then?

I have never really done it before, had one year where I got up to 10km but then didn't do it again. I e really got the bug now though. It makes me so happy (once I get about 3km in).
Of course I would t talk about non boot camp food on boot camp, I promise. I actually think I will stick to boot camp for a couple of weeks and see if I can get a balance, I can still affford to lose a bit but I don't want to lose any of these pretty muscles that I've worked so hard for 😉

Good start there @Gingerwarthog

Gingerwarthog · 18/06/2023 06:40

Thanks @ditavonteesed and@prettybird !
I think this WOE has made me more aware of the importance of eating regularly, eating loads of salad and drinking water.
Hopefully can keep it going until my holiday in six weeks time.
The biggest win has been losing the bloated belly!

Random789 · 18/06/2023 08:15

I too want to build up my running a bit during bootcamp. I used to run quite a bit (in a shambolic shuffling sort of way) but these days it seems to agitate some old-lady (well, 60yo) issues I have with my shoulders and forearms. The last week or so I have been going on micro-runs a few times (about 15 mins) and I find that even these small runs have these beneficial effects:

  1. They seem somehow help to normalise my appetite for a few hours, ie to damp down restlesys cravings. So I think that an early evening run would be a great way to set myself up for fighting evening grazing habits. Is this a thing, knowledgeable people? Does exercise really suppress cravings?
  2. They are a fantastic mood lifter. Agin, I thing this is a real, biochemical effect, not just the moral-boost of doing something positive.
  3. I can actually feel my thighs narrowing!!
Perhaps some intention-setting here is a good way of using the thread: THIS WEEK i WILL RUN ON ALTERNATE DAYS, SOME OF THEM MICRO-RUNS BUT AT LEAST ONE 45 MINUTE RUN. SO HELP ME GOD BOOTCAMP.
prettybird · 18/06/2023 08:31

@ditavonteesed - I used to run marathons Shock - but that was a looooooong time ago (ran 3: one as a bet with my boss to do one by a certain time and then 2 London Marathons). My best time was the 3rd one of 3 hours 54 minute, but that was in 1992 Shock Trained for another one a few years later but got Achilles tendinitis and as I'd already deferred once due to a new job, lost the place Sad

Was never an "addicted" runner - hence having to keep on getting in to it. Used to like 1/2 Marathons as they could be done on a modicum of training. 10k similarly. Now I'm struggling to get back up to a 10k distance Blush

I watched a webinar a few years called "Faster Beyond Fifty" and now when I am training I do 2-3 runs a week (never on consecutive days as your body takes longer to recover) very slowly and relaxedly Smile, essentially getting the miles in your legs and then do one pace run which I hate a week at a shorter distance. It did work to get my base pace up as it had been stagnating/going down. Smile

I want to get back under 12st before starting running again as my pelvic floor doesn't like it (although it coped with the sprints at pre-season - but they were very short) Blush

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prettybird · 18/06/2023 08:33

Forgot the other bit of advice from the Webinar which I enjoy especially on the pace run : every 3km (or 2 miles), walk briskly for 90 seconds.

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BIWI · 18/06/2023 08:36

I think a run of 15 minutes is very respectable @Random789! It's 15 minutes more than I could manage right now.

I really don't like running, although I have tried very hard. I've done C25K 3 times, and a couple of years ago did 'run 60 miles in September' for Cancer Research - but I just don't enjoy it. I never seem to get the runner's high. DH, on the other hand, runs 6 days out of 7. It's definitely good for his mental health - in fact, I worry about what's going to happen if he reaches an age/stage of his life when he isn't able to run any more.

Random789 · 18/06/2023 08:40

I worry about what's going to happen if he reaches an age/stage of his life when he isn't able to run any more.
My dad (87) still goes for the odd shuffling run and talks about 'getting back into it properly so that I can enter the such-and-such event'.

prettybird · 18/06/2023 08:46

@Random789 - I can't quote the research but I'm sure that there has been research that proves just that, certainly for the endorphins and mental well being.

However, re eating there is also the counter issue to be wary of which is that you then feel you "deserve" a treat, when running doesn't actually use that many calories, so you actually eat more than you've used up Confused

Personally though, I'm like you, I find it suppresses my hunger/snacking pangs - especially once I can get to the longer runs.

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prettybird · 18/06/2023 08:48

@Gingerwarthog - that is indeed a major win FlowersStar

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FinallyHere · 18/06/2023 12:06

Hello lovely people, with my fingers crossed, here is a link to the January 2023 Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

If this one still looks odd, I'll have (yet) another go. New spreadsheet with all the names from the sign up sheet will be magically for the new bootcamp starting tomorrow

January 2023 Bootcamp

Weigh-in sheet 141,Original Start Date,Original Weight (lbs),@,Starting Weight (lbs) ~ 9th Jan,Total Loss since original start,% loss since original start,16th Jan Week 2,Weekly Loss,Total Loss this Bootcamp,% loss this Bootcamp,Total Loss since origi...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1Ct9YkP0GzU2O3sQymwOlTFM6JMjVuZcwPehzck3-w/edit?usp=sharing

ditavonteesed · 18/06/2023 12:11

My god @BIWI was that a couple of years ago I remember you doing that 60 miles. @prettybird I'm so impressed, I even googled the London marathon the other day and thought maybe 😳. I can believe you say half can be done with minimal training, that's so hard core. I started for my mental health and I do definitely need the endorphins to function now. I'm going to be 50 next year and I thought the half marathon before that would be a good achievement before I hit that milestone.
I also found that exercise suppressed my appetite I'd tend to do something in first thing the morning and something in the evening.

prettybird · 18/06/2023 12:19

@FinallyHere - that link looks fine. Thank you Flowers

@ditavonteesed - I didn't say that doing a 1/2 on minimal training was fun - just that it could be done Shock I knew that I'd be able to get around the distance but that if I wanted to do a reasonable time, I'd need to put some training in. Whereas when you're training for a marathon, you have to go out for training runs Hmm.

I'll do to you what my boss said to me: if you want to do a 1/2 marathon by the time you're 50, I dare you to do it by the end of this year. You can do it Grin Only in my case it was a full marathon and he did give me 16 months Wink

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CrawlingFromShitshowToAfterglow · 18/06/2023 12:39

Based on the advice here, I just went shopping and bought lots of green beans, halloumi and nuts! Looking forward to my new eating regime!

prettybird · 18/06/2023 12:50

That's great @CrawlingFromShitshowToAfterglow Smile

As an aside, it really helps that the sign up thread says whether someone is vegetarian, as it means I don't have to get the Big Stick out when people mention nuts Grin

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prettybird · 18/06/2023 14:50

Something to think about in anticipation of Boot Camp starting officially is the specific goals you have.

It might be getting into an item of clothing, reaching a particular weight/waist measurement or simply sleeping better or having a better attitude to life. Or a combination of them all Grin

It also helps to have intermediate goals so that you can be motivated by reaching them Smile

Also have a think about what your self care objective for this week will be Flowers

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TheOnlyMrsW · 18/06/2023 15:36

My Sunday prep 😊

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread
Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread
Random789 · 18/06/2023 16:01

@TheOnlyMrsW. Looks lovely - and v organised.

Thanks for those prompts, prettybird. My specific goals for the bootcamp are:

--Lose about 3kgs, to get as close as poss to 62kgs
--Develop a happier, healthier relationship with food
--Get to a point where I can enjoy running for about three miles around three times a week.

My self-care objective this week will be ... well, it should just be to stick to the bootcamp rules, because that is ultimately a form of self-kindness. But in order to have something comfortable and hopefully not too challenging ... a tiny yoga routine once per day (the 10min-ish Hips and Core Vinyasa Flow from Adrienne)

LadyBird1973 · 18/06/2023 16:10

Have had a big glass of red wine today, as a last hurrah before strict bootcamp tomorrow. It's my first alcoholic drink in about a month do it's gone straight to my head! Making roast chicken an celeriac chips for dinner today.

ditavonteesed · 18/06/2023 16:51

@prettybird your on, I've found one 5th November. Near me and apparently flat, which is a good start as the one I'm planning on doing in April is the hilliest one.

So I really appreciated finishing my night last night and not being bloated. Definitely one of the best things about this woe.

ditavonteesed · 18/06/2023 16:52

@TheOnlyMrsW that omelette looks lush

prettybird · 18/06/2023 16:57

Good for you @ditavonteesed Star

Now you need to find a couple of 10k races beforehand, to give you some confidence Smile It really does give you a boost running in a race with other people.

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Baystard · 18/06/2023 17:09

I have modest ambitions of this bootcamp, I'd like to lose 2-3lb and fit more comfortably into the next size of jeans down as I'm in a slightly awkward mid-way point currently. I already fit into them in the legs/bottom but I'm still carrying fat around my abdomen and back that I'd like to shift. Mainly I'm looking forward to the company and chat Grin

Thanks for doing the spreadsheet @FinallyHere . I might not use it, I've had a tendency to obsess a bit about the number, but I'll see how I feel as I go.

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