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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread

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prettybird · 10/06/2023 08:47

This is the prep thread for the new Boot Camp that will be starting on 19 June.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from @BIWI ‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues, you need to make your own choices.

@FinallyHere - can you post a link to an old Spreadsheet of Fabulousness please Flowers. It will let people have a look at some of the resources on it. (It’s difficult for me to do it from my phone).

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have say breakfast but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away Wink

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 14:09

Just making my shopping list now. Rather than focussing on the negatives I am going to find the list of things I find easier.

Water - fine, love it and drink lots
Tea and coffee - only drink herbal and rooibos teas most of the time, the odd milky decaff coffee but only about once a week so I can let that one go.
Alcohol - again I don’t drink much and my preference is red wine so not a problem. I have got a red wine box open at the moment which is great as it keeps longer and I can just have a tiny bit now and then.
Fruit - I’m not a big fruit eater anyway but will look forward to summer berries after the first couple of weeks
Other sweet things - I like sweet foods but don’t have massive issues with eating too many, crisps are the hard thing for me to give up (and I no longer like pork scratchings). I do make crispy kale with a bit of olive oil sometimes.
Veg - I prefer green veg to root veg so that’s not really a problem either

I also do a food prep session on Sundays, make two days of packed lunches, a jar of mayo, some hard boiled eggs.

I also drink a green smoothie made of spinach, pak choi, avocado, cucumber, courgette, sometimes with a bit of ginger or mint leaves.

Porridgeislife · 16/06/2023 14:31

ListenLinda · 16/06/2023 12:03

Got my shopping list ready to go this weekend, with the 10% greek yog and butter at the top of the list.

looking forward to reading about everyones meals, it does give me inspiration! In advance of this, does anyone have a good home made salad dressing recipe they can share?

My go-to is 1 tablespoon vinegar, 3 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 teaspoon mustard, 1/2 teaspoon each of salt flakes and cracked pepper. You can add lemon zest/crushed garlic/dried thyme/dried oregano as well if you like.

You can mix up the choice vinegar for whatever you have in the cupboard, ditto mustard. I usually have cider vinegar and Dijon mustard.

I tend to whizz it in a food processor but small jar is just as good.

prettybird · 16/06/2023 14:46

@EvenmoreDisorganised - you're making a lie of your user name Grin You sound very organised! Halo

I love your attitude of looking at the positives Flowers

Like you, I look forward to being able to have berries after the 1st 2 weeks - which in my case will be a week on Sunday, as I started last weekend Smile

I've already lost 3lb since my un official "weigh-in" Halo - and half a stone since the number I saw on the scales the week before which I am in denial about horrified me into organising this Boot Camp Grin

I'm also gradually reducing the number of times I wake up during the night to go and pee as my kidneys get used to this new regime Smile

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Donteventhinkofcallingmecis · 16/06/2023 15:32

Thank you so much @prettybird and @StuntNun for those explanations. 🙏

Stokey · 16/06/2023 16:48

On vinegar, I think balsamic is a no-no, but I'm sure someone will be able to confirm.

BIWI · 16/06/2023 17:03

Yep. Balsamic vinegar is out on Bootcamp. Carb counts vary by brand, but I've seen carb counts from 19g carbs per 100ml to as much as 30g carbs!

BIWI · 16/06/2023 17:03

And this brand is a staggering 74g carbs per 100ml!

EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 18:56

@prettybird I change my MN name fairly frequently, the current version reflects the fact that we are coming to the end of some house renovations which have caused a high degree of disorganisation over the last 6 weeks or so. It also reflects my menu planning which is quite frankly rubbish. I'm good at sorting out my own breakfasts and lunches but our family meals are a bit of a nightmare due to fussy eating and everyone coming and going at random times.

Backstreets · 16/06/2023 19:08

CrawlingFromShitshowToAfterglow · 15/06/2023 08:22

Hi everyone. I've signed up, but I've never done a bootcamp before! I'm a bit worried, though. I can see breakfast is mandatory, but I'm a vegetarian (don't eat eggs, but dairy is fine) and I can't see many choices for me given the list of restricted foods. Any ideas what I can do for breakfast?

I like a fried halloumi with wilted spinach. Usually do three slices. Some cucumber on the side.
greek yoghurt good for a quickie breakfast

EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 22:26

Right, I did a big shop this afternoon and have just spend an hour completely clearing out and tidying the fridge to get clear in my mind what is there, what needs using before Monday and to chuck out a few jars with just a scraping of random jam etc in them. So much veg and salad I could barely get the drawer shut. That does feel satisfying, filling that drawer right up and watching it empty over the course of a week.

EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 22:29

Oh and I couldn’t find any 10% fat yogurt so I made do with Yeo Valley 8.3% and bought some full fat UHT milk to use to make my own next week - I used to make yogurt regularly and have got out of the habit. Also bought some new herbal teabags, some of them taste really nice if you let them cool down and drink them with ice.

TheOnlyMrsW · 17/06/2023 07:38

@BIWI thank you for looking at my plan, after I'd posted I did think it looked a bit boring!!!! Not a fan of mayo but will make sure there's plenty of fat with the roast veg and steal @prettybird's dressing recipe.
Busy weekend for us, DC had their first shift as a glass collector last night (which stopped me drinking because of pickup!) and we're off on our first uni open day today 😯😯😯. Have plenty of water and snacks packed to try and avoid service station or on-campus bad choices.
Hope everyone has a good day 😊

CrystalTits · 17/06/2023 08:58

For fellow cheese and crisp fans, I noticed last week that Waitrose have started stocking big bags of Cheesies, which I find are a tasty alternative to mindlessly shovelling a whole bag of Kettle Chips down my neck :). They’re in the nuts and pork scratchings section of the crisp aisle.

The Curators pork puffs are all too salty for me (and I love a bit of salt) but they do offer a mixed snack box which is handy for snacking.

Also found boxes of Olinas pumpkin seed flatbread crackers in TK Maxx - a good sub for the much-missed M&S seed crackers, once we’re in Bootcamp Lite. Waitrose stock the standard Olinas seed crackers in the GF bit and they are lovely with cheese.

Enjoy the uni open day @TheOnlyMrsW!

Random789 · 17/06/2023 09:10

I'm thinking about just following a Diet Doctor meal plan - modified during the strictest bit of bootcamp to avoid the nuts. Anyone any thoughts on this website? I started a fee trial once but terminated it because their subscription service didn't seem much better than their public-access content.

I just feel that having someone tell me exactly what to eat and when might make life easier. But perhaps I shouldbe more creative and use the spreadsheet recipes?

prettybird · 17/06/2023 09:33

I find the cheesiest too cheesy Confused@CrystalTits despite snacking too much regularly on slices of Emmental Blush

@Random789 - no idea what Diet Doctor's meal plans are like but I do use their recipes quite often.

I would think provide you consciously adapt them to Boot Camp Rules (such as, as you acknowledge, no nuts in the first 2 weeks), you should be ok.

My menu plan for the weekend is one of the days roast chicken, served with with asparagus and buttery, garlicky green beans and the other day lamb kebabs served with home made tzatziki, a green salad and a tomato, mozzarella and basil salad.

Which day will depend on when/whether we have more thunderstorms. We had a biblical downpour last night - our (very wide) street was completely flooded as the drains couldn't cope. I was going to see Rumours of Fleetwood Mac (who were excellent Smile) and I had to walk along the road to where it wasn't quite so flooded in my gardening clogs, carrying my shoes, accompanied by dh with his non metallic spike golf umbrella to meet SIL, whose dh was giving us a lift into town Shock

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HedgehogHill · 17/06/2023 11:42

Hi everyone, newbie-vegetarian-who-doesn't-like-eggs-mushrooms-or-avocado here! Been writing down all the suitable recipes from the vegetarian recipe thread, I will mostly be living on salads, dairy, aubergines, courgettes and nuts!

@prettybird thanks for organising, perfect timing for me...
I had just weighed myself for the first time in 8 months, been horrified to see I've piled on another 1.5stone in that time...my BMI now has me just shy of the obese category. I seriously need to kick my UPF addiction once and for all.

I bought yeo Greek style yog yesterday then realised my mistake when I re read the thread and looked at the carbs per 100g !! I've just nipped to the co op, they didn't have authentic Greek yog buy their Greek style yog is 8.5% fat and 4g carb - is that ok? Ill have to go to Lidl soon and get some of their authentic Greek yog.

HedgehogHill · 17/06/2023 11:44

*but

prettybird · 17/06/2023 11:50

That'll be fine for the moment.

Be careful in Lidl: they have "Greek style" and (authentic) Greek yoghurt. Imho, the authentic made in Greece Greek yoghurt is better Wink - can't remember the respective carb counts, but I'm sure they're on the Greek yoghurt thread.

To make matters worse, they mix the zero fat (pink top), "Light" (light blue) and full fat/10% (dark blue) on the same display trays Angry. Make sure to buy the tub with the dark blue top! Smile

I think Aldi is the same Hmm

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Random789 · 17/06/2023 13:49

Can I be really annoying and ask for a link to the spreadsheet? I've been scanning back through this thread and the sign-up thread but haven't spotted it. Apologies. Or if someone could say what page it is on or what time it was posted?
I also realise that I have missed out on a lot of interesting posts. I think it is because of the big blocks where adverts go (if you haven't got a blocker). Sometimes I mistake those for the end of the thread and don't realise there is more to scroll through. I will try to be more diligent!

Greek style yoghurt is a conundrum. I used to think that it was made in exactly the same way as Greek yog but just couldn't be described as Greek yog because of the regulations regarding protected terms relating to place of origin.
But I understand that the only similarlity is that greek-style yog has been strained to some extent, to make it a bit thicker and milder (and to make it legit to put 'greek style' on the label). It hasn't been strained in accordance with the traditional process. And in addition it will have all the various additives that authentic greek yoghurt eschews - "gelatine, gum blends, stabilisers, preservatives, milk solids and more" according to a site I just looked at.

I've become wary of buying greek yoghurt, because t is easy to eat too much of it. But it does sound like it is one of the key bootcamp staples, and much more bootcamp-freindly than almost all other dairy. So Iwill just have to get my act together and control myself.

prettybird · 17/06/2023 14:07

@FinallyHere posted it - but (on the app at least Confused) it didn't look like a link to the spreadsheet as it had loads of extra text around it Shock

I'm sure she'll heed to tag and post it again.

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prettybird · 17/06/2023 14:11

@Random789 - I know what you mean about Greek yoghurt. I have to ration myself to just 2 spoonfuls (with some cream) for my break-fast (usually after 12) / afternoon snack Halo

I have to consciously stop myself going back for more Blush - I'm still re-learning my true "hunger" cues and getting back to being properly ketogenically adapted (nearly one week in as I started early)

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LadyBird1973 · 17/06/2023 14:25

Once we can eat berries, Greek yoghurt is nice with berries and a sprinkle of cocoa powder, for a nice desert.

ditavonteesed · 17/06/2023 16:21

2 days of bootcamp light and is if by magic the bloating painful farty tummy has gone. Unfortunately so has 1kg, I'm going to stick it out though because I'm bored of my stomach hurting.

I always have the Lidl 10% Greek yoghurt, so yummy. Dh buys me a bucket weekly. Perfect work breakfast.

Feeling a bit smug today as I ran 11km which is the furthest I have ever run in my life.

Gingerwarthog · 17/06/2023 21:54

With the exception of the rice crispies, strawberries and a glass of white wine this evening I have stuck to it too and seem to have lost 3 pounds and got rid of my bloated stomach.
Drinking at least 2 litres of water a day has also helped.

PhilomenaShitpeas · 17/06/2023 22:51

Thanks for this - just read through and looking forward to joining in.

I’ve developed a recent penchant for tomato and burrata salad and wanted to check its OK for lunch: Baby plum tomatoes marinated in EVOO, red onion, basil, parsley with burrata cheese, s&p. Would try not to eat the entire burrata in one sitting… 😏

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