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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp

276 replies

BIWI · 08/11/2021 10:16

Morning all.

Sorry for the late posting this morning. I had a bad night but managed eventually to get to sleep and have only just woken up!

As ever, here's the link to the spreadsheet

The plan for this week is as for last week, i.e. strict Bootcamp during the week but relaxing into Bootcamp Light at the weekend (if you wish).

Hopefully by now it's becoming more of a habit to eat this way, and the urge to snack has receded, and you're finding that you're no longer hungry between meals.

And channelling @ShagMeRiggins, I hope you're remembering the WATER, WATER, WATER! As well as all the fat Grin

Here's to a good week for us all Flowers

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H1Drangea · 11/11/2021 09:14

First and second glass of water drunk ✅
I’ve noticed my skin is better , not sure if it’s the extra water , extra veg or less wine , anyway who cares , it’s better !
Realised , for probably the first time , I didn’t have any cheese yesterday , I often have a chunk with my lunchtime soup , but didn’t need it yesterday
Planning an experimental stuffed cabbage / lasagne type meal
If it’s any good I’ll share the recipe ( it will involve cheese )

H1Drangea · 11/11/2021 09:17

Posted at the same time as @AthelstaneTheUnready , though I’m still waiting for my patience to improve , I don’t have any today as DH slept badly and the theatrical sighs and yawns woke me up too

AthelstaneTheUnready · 11/11/2021 09:21

That's annoying H1Drangea. My husband was a performance non-sleeper as well, and I used to long for one of those Tudor beds with a pull-out drawer-bed to the side for the servant, that you could slide back under the bed...

mrshoho · 11/11/2021 09:55

I can relate to everything you've described @AthelstaneTheUnready (Well not the chicken pie bit 😜)!

The feeling of improved all round well being and satisfaction from food is uplifting! Being able to walk past tubs of sweets and treats left out at work and not feel deprived feels empowering. I'm so grateful for this group! I have always had great success with bootcamp but it's when I've reached my goals that I start to slip back into carb overload. I'm an all or nothing personality I think.

Noavocado · 11/11/2021 10:18

Morning Everyone. Apologies if my posts seemed a bit down beat yesterday. Think this enforced isolation may also be a factor.
Positive is that I feel fine and no cough or temp. I made the cheeseburger pie... It was amazing and hit the spot!!

The scales in my bathroom seem to now have a new identity. I speak to them nicely every morning... Sometimes we have a little row. My boyfriend caught me talking to them this morning Grin

Noavocado · 11/11/2021 10:40

Also I have decided to set myself small challenges with a reward at the end. So my first challenge is to get to 10st.Ive just under 7 lbs to go. So I've asked for my Christmas present to be a few private swim coach sessions to learn how to tumble turn in the pool. Swimming is my passion... it gives me that extra push to think of this goal for Christmas.

BIWI · 11/11/2021 11:05

Grin at talking to the scales!

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BIWI · 11/11/2021 11:26

@FusionChefGeoff I did start a maintenance thread some time ago, but nobody posted on it - they all gravitated to the current chat thread!

I don't mind if people who are maintaining post here - I think it can be inspiring for those relatively new to low carbing. But there are a couple of caveats:

  • if you're maintaining, and experimenting with higher levels of carbs/the occasional cheat meal, be circumspect about posting about it - it can confuse and trigger those still following Bootcamp
  • be aware that a lot of regular posters can make it seem intimidating for newer posters

But as ever, if a maintenance thread would be helpful for you, there's absolutely no problem in starting one.

@AthelstaneTheUnready I always wondered what you'd done with your husband ... Wink

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PastramiNoRye · 11/11/2021 11:27

Had a increase of 0.8lb today but my period has just started so I'm hoping it's just a hormonal fluctuation.

Also had a wee work victory this morning, so I need to re-jig my finances to see if I can afford the membership to the gym that has a pool.

prettybird · 11/11/2021 11:52

Because weight loss is not linear aka I've fallen off the wagon lots of times Blush I've never got close to working out my Maintenance WoE. Blush

The good news is that I've never gone back up to my heaviest weight (14st 13lb) and tend to oscillate around 11.5 to 12.5stone, sometimes getting down to 11st 1lb. My target is 10 st 7lb.

I love seeing newbies on here - it's a great WoE that really does work and the support here is brilliant Thanks And what's more, it's free (whatever the gremlins on R - d - - t think Confused) Grin

Noavocado · 11/11/2021 12:34

I hope the talking to the scales made you all Smile Glad it made you Grin Biwi. Im going to admit aswell that although you warned about week 3/4 weight loss slowing down, I was a bit arrogant and didn't believe you.
Apart from no swimming I've done nothing different... The scales are not moving... hence me talking to them.
Is there a science behind this?
I have loads of time on my hands to read up.

MercedesBenz · 11/11/2021 12:38

Total of 6 lb lost over the boot camp , 2 for this week , after hovering at the same weight all last weekend .
Almost a half stone !

Feel remotivated to focus on this woe .

Hope you are all doing well

Noavocado · 11/11/2021 12:43

Well done @MercedesBenz. I'm proper chuffed for you. By the way im Northern so some of my sayings might seem odd to people.

BIWI · 11/11/2021 12:45

Brilliant @MercedesBenz! Flowers

There is science behind it @Noavocado, but I'm afraid I always forget what it is Blush - @StuntNun usually comes along with her expert scientific opinion. I must either a) copy it next time or, preferably b) learn it!

In part I know that the weight you lose in the first two weeks is a combination of water (which you would lose on any diet) along with the glycogen in your liver/muscles, which is stored glucose, and a little fat. Thereafter, you should be losing fat, but clearly you can't lose at the same rate after the first couple of weeks.

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StuntNun · 11/11/2021 13:42

@Noavocado it's simple water retention that causes the stall in weeks 3-4 and it happens with any type of weight loss plan, not just low carb. There's a hormonal effect that causes a temporary water retention that masks the amount of fat loss. So if you stick to the Bootcamp rules you will still be losing fat even though you aren't losing weight. Some people do escape or but usually only those with a high starting weight who also can see a multi-pound weight loss each week for the first few weeks. The usual amount of weight loss is several pounds in week 1, 1-2 lb in week 2, nothing in either week 3 or week 4 and an average of 1-1.5 lb each week over time. I say an average because a typical pattern is small or no weight loss some weeks then 2-3 lb every so often, which we call a whoosh.

kerkyra · 11/11/2021 13:52

BelladiMamma I had a gain of two pounds in week three,thought it may be due to the time of the month?
Hopefully you will see a whoosh soon.
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ShagMeRiggins · 11/11/2021 13:57

@BelladiMamma

I have put 1lb back on. Annoying because I was edging below 10 and a half stone. I was 9 Stone before I had the kids and I'd just like to be 10 again, as that what I have bought all my clothes for.

Maybe not enough water?

My only cheats over the last week have been 2 biscuits and 1 marshmallow and 2 glasses of wine. 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you’re only a half stone away from goal, it can get trickier. Water is a good thought, but maybe now is the time to ask yourself what your version of maintenance looks like. It’s different for everyone, slowly introducing higher carbs (and—apologies—it looks as though the foods you had off plan were basically sugary “treats”).

I’m wondering if you’ve broken a sweet craving (if you had one), or if you’re just rightly delighted to be appx 6lbs away from goal.

Many on this thread are nowhere near goal weight, but bloody well done!

Do you want to adhere to this way of eating in the long term, or was this a quick fix?

These are important questions to consider.

venusandmars · 11/11/2021 14:01

@Noavocado there's lots of science for different stages. If you're new to this, your metabolism will be going through a major readjustment. It's habitually be using glucose for energy, and now it's using fat. Our bodies can do both (aren't we amazing creatures!!) but in the days of our ancestors they would eat mostly leaves, veg, nuts and fruit that grew above ground plus protein from animals and fish. They were in natural fat burning mode.

Then maybe once or twice a year, the tribe would find a big honeycomb and would gorge themselves on sweet sticky honey. Thank goodness for our insulin response, we'd have been wiped out instantly otherwise! For a few days they would lay around feeling lethargic and sleepy and then get back to the normal hunter gatherer life.

Modern life with easily accesible refined carbs and sugar has us in that honey-eating state most of the time. It's a big adjustment to change back to using fat for fuel (as a constant norm) so it can take a while for our bodies to get really efficient at doing it.

As @BIWI said, we lose weight quickly in the first couple of weeks as we use up our glycogen stores, and the water molecules associated with them. Then our wonderful amazing bodies are transforming to adapt to this way of eating.

As we keep on with this woe, we gradually lose fat. Fat doesn't exist in our bodies as a big amorphous blob, fat is contained within fat cells. As we lose fat, the amount of fat in some fat cells reduces and is replaced by water (the cell is still waiting for the cell to be filled up again with fat). I think... that water is more dense and therefore heavier than fat, so there may be a period when the cell is more water than fat, and therefore it will weigh microscopically more. Eventually the fat in a particular cell is all depleted, the cell collapses and the water is released. This results in a characteristic 'woosh' in downward weight, often accompanied by peeing like a donkey Grin.

Of course the process doesn'e happen one cell at a time, but maybe that depiction helps to explain why weight loss is not linear, and also why we need WATER WATER WATER for the fat burning process. The actual biochemical process of using fat for energy requires water for the molecular reaction.

I hope I've managed to add a shematic which explain this fat cell theory...

Week 4 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp
BIWI · 11/11/2021 15:16

@kerkyra

BelladiMamma I had a gain of two pounds in week three,thought it may be due to the time of the month? Hopefully you will see a whoosh soon. .
@kerkyra

Weeks 3 and 4 are notorious for little or no weight loss - sometimes you may even see a gain.

Have a read of @StuntNun's post, just above yours, which explains that.

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Dellabob123 · 11/11/2021 15:47

Thanks @venusandmars
That explains the disappearance of the double bum fat overnight Grin

KateF · 11/11/2021 15:59

I've been absent for a bit due to a dreadful couple of weeks. Now job hunting but have a couple of interviews next week so trying to be optimistic.
Had my first fall off the wagon since June and ate cake for daughter's birthday. Gained 3lb which I've now lost again but it seems to have triggered carb cravings and I'm really struggling. I made some flax bread today which I didn't like much but I'm sick of soup and salad. I just want to devour the contents of the kitchen cupboard!
I will not give up, I will not give up........

PastramiNoRye · 11/11/2021 17:07

Food for today:

Brunch: scrambled eggs with cheese and avocado

Dinner: meeting a friend at Nando's so was thinking about the chicken thighs with coleslaw and tenderstem broccoli...maybe a side of halloumi.

Creamy coffees and I'm still working on getting the water in!

MercedesBenz · 11/11/2021 18:39

@Noavocado
Northern here too 😊

Rayna37 · 11/11/2021 19:06

The thread got busier just as I did, so I just had a long catch up while DH drives us south for the weekend. Spa day tomorrow!

Not swum since Monday but think I've been on plan! Yesterday:

B- avocado and cheshire cheese omelette
L- leftover veg- tamarind sprouts and kale plus yogurt
D- kedgeree made with cauli rice and leeks

Today: one cold sausage and a boiled egg
L: egg cheese chive mayo on salad; yogurt with tsp almond butter
D: pork and beef bolognese (made a big batch last night) on courgette chunks

I drink two or three caffeinated drinks a day plus water and chamomile tea at work. Sparkling water from my soda stream or peppermint tea in the evening. No problem exceeding my water target on workdays but I often really struggle on weekends. Not sure what food is on offer this weekend but DSiL is good for lots of veg and I will dodge the sweet stuff.

Love hearing from new posters! The quieter it is, the harder to learn tips and tricks . I haven't even found cause to go off on one about finding your Greek yogurt soul mate yet Grin

H1Drangea · 11/11/2021 20:01

I’d planned a type of stuffed cabbage / cannelini type dinner tonight with pork mince , but discovered the chicken thighs I bought yesterday had a use by date of today , so made a chicken cacciatore .
Which actually was very nice , served with mushrooms , cabbage and spinach
The spinach was very good , though I say it myself
Frozen spinach , cooked in the microwave , then strained all the water off and added mascarpone, butter and a drop of cream , salt , pepper and ground nutmeg ( I have a funny old nutmeg grater which is my new favourite gadget ) gave it a good mix with a spoon
Lots of water ( water , water ) and even managed a walk today as well as a huge pile of ironing