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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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StuntNun · 20/01/2021 14:57

Oneborn my teenage DS1 is always up in the late evening or nighttime making himself a terrible mess in the kitchen sandwich. My DS2 is also a teenager but likes his sleep too much so he just mainlines chocolate throughout the day. On your other question I'm a curly girl as well, been doing it for a while. Rice water rinses were a game changer for me - but not so easy to do while low carbing!

plumstone · 20/01/2021 15:37

@cheeseisthebest I have one but its behind lots of other stuff in a cupboard, so I need steps to get it out, then move everything out get the food processor out, then put everything back in etc etc - I'm lazy so using a grater is just "easier"!!

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 15:41

Another owner of a nocturnal teenager here. Ramen at 3am, and also sweeping through all leftovers like a locust.

Also a semi-committed curly girl. I use Aveda Be Curly co-wash and conditioner but don't do much else. Just that has taken my hair from frizzy to curly though. No more shampoo for me.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 15:44

Meant to post my food for today.

Morning: coffee with splash of full fat milk. DH had moved the cream into our other fridge so I couldn't find it.
Lunch: tinned tuna with mayonnaise and full fat cream cheese, with spinach wilted in butter stirred in.
Dinner: duck breast with 'winter salad' - not entirely sure what this is other than watercress-based

BIWI · 20/01/2021 15:57

DataColour Wed 20-Jan-21 11:56:26
@ouchmyfeet Haven't read the whole thread

Why not?

Please, please, please see my note - in my first post and earlier this morning about reading the whole thread!

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Lyrata · 20/01/2021 16:09

I have waist length red curly hair and I have tried the curly girl method but I just couldn’t stick with it. I know I should probably do because I’m mixed race and it would probably really benefit my hair but I’m so much more comfortable just plaiting my hair and leaving it like that!

I’m feeling really sad today because I just had the flat valued ahead of selling it post break-up last year, and I can sense the stress looming ahead. I feel very emotionally hungry and even though I can recognise where the desire to eat sugar is coming from, it’s still difficult to resist. Luckily I don’t have any options.

Bestbees · 20/01/2021 16:12

@lyrata I bet your hair is beautiful, I have always wanted red hair. Sorry to hear that you have difficult times on the horizon. Hopefully this woe will actually make it easier to deal with.
@Dailyhandtowelwash do you have a recipe for the duck? Sounds yummy!

PastramiNoRye · 20/01/2021 16:13

Today so far and the plan for dinner

B: scrambled egg with mushrooms and mozzarella, creamy coffee

L: stir fried cabbage and bean sprouts with prawns (used lots of coconut oil)

Snack: bit of smoked salmon

D: lamb neck, neep and mushroom stew with some buttered broccoli

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 16:17

@Bestbees I will ask the chef!

@lyrata your hair does sound amazing. Not comfort eating right now must be really hard. Is there anything else that might help? I am a bath addict at times like that.

flossiegrippiter · 20/01/2021 16:18

Are we allowed pork scratchings or biltong does anyone know?

MrsOmelette · 20/01/2021 16:22

@Oneborneverydecade my teen son is up most of the night, my teen daughters aren’t. They call him a vampire!

Onelittlepiglet · 20/01/2021 16:23

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch I also get that weird empty feeling after eating a big meal. I have to get out of the kitchen and distract myself as others have said. It usually doesn’t last long but it is weird!

@Lyrata thank you for that recipe - it sounds great and I will give it a go. I know what you mean about getting better thicker sauces in the oven than the slow cooker. Also Just to say your hair sounds amazing! Sorry to hear you are having a stressful time and hope the flat sale isn’t as bad as you think it will be.

Despite being shattered I had a good day and resisted the urge to eat everything out of tiredness.

B - Greek yoghurt and cream
L - salad plate with 2 boiled eggs, avocado, lettuce, cheese and olive oil.
D - chicken stir fry with Cauliflower rice. Lots of coconut oil!
Tea x 3
Water x 4 litres

Ratherchillyinhere · 20/01/2021 16:32

Are we allowed pork scratchings or biltong does anyone know?

Yes. But some contain nasties and what flour n stuff so you need to check the ingredients.

Butchers quite often sell clean scratchings.

Or you can buy the fat from butchers and Morrisons (I believe) and make your own.

DataColour · 20/01/2021 16:34

@BIWI

DataColour Wed 20-Jan-21 11:56:26 *@ouchmyfeet* Haven't read the whole thread

Why not?

Please, please, please see my note - in my first post and earlier this morning about reading the whole thread!

Sorry! I've been busy with working all day so didn't get to read all the posts...but wanted to contribute by posting a recipe to the poster who asked about coleslaw.
BIWI · 20/01/2021 16:42

@flossiegrippiter

Are we allowed pork scratchings or biltong does anyone know?
Biltong is a difficult one - Kings Rib-eye flavour is actually more carby than I expected at 5.6g per 100g (a packet is 65g, so obviously will be less than that - but it's pretty processed:

Beef (220g of Raw Meat per 100g of Finished Product), Sugar, Salt, Spices, Herbs, Dried Red Pepper, Dried Onion, Yeast Extract, Cider Vinegar, Smoke Flavouring, Preservative (Potassium Sorbate)

[[https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/Product/the-curators-the-original-beef-biltong-30g The Curators brand is lower in carbs at 1.9g carbs per 100g - and is slightly less processed:

Beef, Spirit Vinegar, Salt, Coriander, Garlic, Black Pepper, Preservatives (Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Nitrate), Nutmeg, Cloves, Chilli, Made from approx. 250g Beef per 100g Biltong

So it all really depends on the brand you buy.

Pork scratchings are lower in carbs - but they are still pretty processed. Mr Porky's ingredients :

Pork Rind, Salt, Flavour Enhancer: Monosodium Glutamate; Hydrolysed Soya Protein, Rusk (Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin, Salt), Dextrose, Made with 277g Raw Pork Rind per 100g of Pork Scratchings

This brand is 2g carbs per 100g, but also rather processed:

Pork Rind, Seasoning (Rice Flour, Salt, Dextrose, Yeast Powder, Colours: Annatto, Curcumin, Paprika Extract; Flavourings, Citric Acid), Made with 290g Raw Pork Rind per 100g of Pork Crackling

You can buy pork rind from Morrisons, and make your own crackling - or buy a pork joint to have as a roast and save the rind from that to make your own.

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BIWI · 20/01/2021 16:42

Sorry about formatting there! Hope you can work out what I was trying to post!

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OneFootintheRave · 20/01/2021 16:49

Phew, just caught up with the thread.

Finally back on the spreadsheet after a few false starts, thanks @AthelstaneTheUnready. Would it be a good idea to add a couple of columns for height and BMI?

I have had occasional biltong from Tesco that is only 2.1% carbs.

www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/293332003

@prettybird I can't believe you are approaching 60, you look much younger in that series of photos..

Oneborneverydecade · 20/01/2021 16:58

@Bestbees @StuntNun @Dailyhandtowelwash @Lyrata I'm still at the stage of throwing techniques and products at my hair hopeful of a transformation ha Literally just been to town to buy a protein treatment

I'm relieved to know lots of teens are the same, maybe we need to relax a bit more but I worry he struggles to get up for school work as it is

I didn't realise pork scratchings weren't recommended, I don't eat them often but will cut them out for a while

L: mushroom soup, small sl homemade bread (tsk)
D: lc moussaka
3lts water and black Earl Grey tea

I indulged in a small sl banana bread yesterday and paid the price on the scales

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 16:59

@Oneborneverydecade I have no idea if it's compliant with Curly Girl thinking, but my hairdresser uses Olaplex and it's amazing. I want to buy some but I can't work out which flipping number I need.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 17:01

Ooh, my butcher sells pork skin. Presumably you just roast it as if it were attached to something, or is there a special pork scratching creation method? I have a lovely cookbook that gives a recipe, but it is very cheffy and takes about a day.

Ifeelmuchlessfat · 20/01/2021 17:23

I should probably know this by now but how do I bookmark? Threads moving so quickly...

ZiggZagg · 20/01/2021 17:24

Evening all, I smashed my interview and the manager called after an hour to offer me the job! Just need to get all the HR stuff out the way and hand my notice in now! Woo me!!

ZiggZagg · 20/01/2021 17:24

@Ifeelmuchlessfat if on your phone swipe left Smile

flossiegrippiter · 20/01/2021 17:27

That's amazing thanks @BIWI

BIWI · 20/01/2021 17:29

@ZiggZagg

Evening all, I smashed my interview and the manager called after an hour to offer me the job! Just need to get all the HR stuff out the way and hand my notice in now! Woo me!!
Fantastic @ZiggZagg! Flowers
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