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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Bestbees · 19/01/2021 10:42

@Ninkanink thank you! Will keep on eating big, delicious meals thank you!

@BIWI I know it's only day two, but Istarted last week (sorry that wasn't clear!) so have hovered in 9.13/12 this whol last week. Will KOKO 😊 I feel like your big stick herding us all nicely into being well behaved And kind to ourselves. Marathon not a sprint and all that! Also really interesting to see the difference in organic non organic milk. I only drink organic milk but will now look at changing the cream too.

I also put lemon and salt in water once or twice a day which definitely helps. However I haven't managed to bring this to work so need to do this (maybe a wedge of lemon dipped in salt in a tuperware for when I need it, don't want to put it it my waterbottle).

@LittleMy77 my online shop for tomorrow is full of cheese. I absolutely love it so pleased it is a good food here. Planning a cheese plate with celery sticks for lunch at some point this week.

What are people's top supermarket buys?

BIWI · 19/01/2021 10:45

@Bestbees at that weight you probably don't have very much to lose. How tall are you?

As you get nearer your target, your rate of loss will slow down.

However, list out for me your meals/drinks for the last few days and let's see if we can spot anything.

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cheeseisthebest · 19/01/2021 10:56

[quote BIWI]@cheeseisthebest

Have you not read the rules?!

Rule no 5:

Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs[/quote]
Oh sorry Sad yes I did read that. My brain is overloaded with work and homeschooling!

VeryLittleOwl · 19/01/2021 10:58

Morning everyone. Manic day for me yesterday, lunch was leftover cauliflower cheese and supper was eventually (after a bit of mix up with DH about when I was going to eat the cheeseburger pie I was making!) meatballs with FLGV.

I'm trying to manage my water carefully today because I have to go and check on my sheep this afternoon, who are out on several thousand acres of common grazings, I could be walking for a few hours and I don't want to be trying to find a sheltered spot to pee in the middle of open moorland in winter! I got a litre in within 2 hours of getting up, will have a glass before I set out and take a 750ml bottle with me and then do the rest when I'm home again. Lunch is going to be cold cheeseburger pie Grin and I'm not sure what supper is tonight, but DH seems to have got the hang of low carb-friendly cooking now. I saw a couple of steaks in the fridge, so here's hoping!

To the poster up-thread who was mentioning constipation - how do I put this in a delicate way? - I find my 'throughput' diminishes considerably when I'm low carbing properly. I think of it as my body being able to use a lot more of what I'm eating rather than having to discard it as rubbish!

nowlook · 19/01/2021 11:04

@VeryLittleOwl
Grin Grin "throughput"

I don't like the idea of measuring that particular performance indicator...

VeryLittleOwl · 19/01/2021 11:07

[quote nowlook]@VeryLittleOwl
Grin Grin "throughput"

I don't like the idea of measuring that particular performance indicator...[/quote]
I read Tim Ferriss' book, Four-Hour Body years ago, after really getting a lot out of Four-Hour Work Week, and he actually did weigh everything that went in and came out as an experiment. That's just a bit too much dedication for me....!!

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 11:07

@VeryLittleOwl

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
nowlook · 19/01/2021 11:11

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch I think that would clog...
But that is exactly what I wear when camping. It's like looking in a mirror.

pelosi · 19/01/2021 11:15

Thanks @venusandmars, @BIWI @ShagMeRiggins it was 3 of the spears so I think just one large gherkin.

Lesson learnt will be checking everything now!

ShagMeRiggins · 19/01/2021 11:17

[quote MilesJuppIsMyBitch]@VeryLittleOwl [/quote]
Well somebody’s been to a festival or two...

ShagMeRiggins · 19/01/2021 11:19

Okay, my comment really doesn’t work withOut the SheWee photo, does it? That was in reply to MilesJupp!

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 11:22

[quote nowlook]@MilesJuppIsMyBitch I think that would clog...
But that is exactly what I wear when camping. It's like looking in a mirror.[/quote]
Grin

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 11:24

Do you know, I've never been to a festival because the idea of the pit-toilets fills me with pearl-clutching horror.

Provincial but true

Letsrunabath · 19/01/2021 11:25

Thanks for everyone’s helpful posts. Going to up the water on my 2nd ltr now. I was hoping when I finally dtd I will loose another 1lb or 2lb🤣🤣🤣

StuntNun · 19/01/2021 11:28

Bestbees you can use a squirt of bottled lemon juice from the fridge instead of fresh lemon.

Brassica give yourself time. Exercise could well be masking your weight loss, especially if you have any delayed onset muscle soreness which is associated with water retention. KOKO and the whoosh fairy will head your way soon enough.

Ouchmyfeet I've been eating this way for seven years and I still add electrolytes to my water. I buy these cheap ones from Amazon because artificial sweeteners don't agree with them. I had to have blood tests recently and my sodium levels were actually on the low side of normal so even though I feel like I'm adding a lot of salt to my food I must need it. I think a lot depends on the other foods you eat. I eat a very clean diet so I need the added salt. If you're eating more processed foods or cured meats then you might not need to keep adding electrolytes. Also if you're drinking excessive amounts of water and other fluids then you will be flushing electrolytes from your system that you will then need to replace. Here's an article about over-hydration..* It also depends on how quickly you drink fluids. If you down a pint of water in one go then most of it will end up as urine - taking electrolytes with it. You need to drink continuously through the day. Alternatively if you're drinking water with added electrolytes like the ones I linked to, then more of it is absorbed so you can drink it much more quickly - useful if you only have limited opportunities to drink through the day.

Bestbees · 19/01/2021 11:34

@biwi

Thank you. I am 5.3 so aiming for 9.7

Fri
B eggs and spinach in butter
L cream green soup and smoked macjerel
D melazane parmagiana

Sat
B eggs spinach butter and cheese
L mackerel with mayo in lettuce wraps
D pork belly and creamy sprouts

Sun
B mushrooms with cream cheese in lettuce and eggs
L. Salad with halumi peppers and greens
D brisket with slaw and salad

Mon
B eggs butter in lettuce wraps
L creamy Green soup
D fish casserole (halibut, brocoli and cream) with roasted kale.

Every day tonnes of water and herb tea. No more than two teas with tiny splash of milk. Black coffee with salt. Yoga every day and a walk or run each day (longish walks 8km or short runs 3-5)

I really appreciate it BIWI!

BIWI · 19/01/2021 11:40

So you haven't got much to lose - I'm afraid it will be slower progress for you than if you had loads! Bummer, but that's how it is.

One thing I'd say, though, is that you're having cream every day, along with cheese. It might be worth cutting down on that for a bit to see if it makes a difference? I know that I'm alright with cheese, for some reason, but if I eat a lot of cream or yoghurt it does impact on weight loss.

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Bestbees · 19/01/2021 11:46

@BIWI thank you! I will expect slow but steady and try to cut down on the cream a bit (probably just over excited to be "ALLOWED'' IT!)

oscarandelliesdad · 19/01/2021 11:50

Am really enjoying reading everyone's comments. Just checking in as the thread moves so fast!
B- scrambled eggs with mushrooms
L- nibbles of manchego with peashoot salad and some ham
D- homemade burger with stir fry veg.
Not very inspiring I'm afraid. I'm so bored of lock down cooking for the kids and I, am just tweaking what we all eat, for me.

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 11:51

@Bestbees it really helps if you remind yourself daily about the very good health reasons for the WOE, to avoid focusing too much on the weight loss aspects. There are a lot of health benefits to LCHF, and most people really do feel 100% better when following it, generally sleeping better and having much more energy too. I actually mainly do it for the health benefits although keeping my body in check somewhat is nice too (as I absolutely love food and could easily get out of control).

ouchmyfeet · 19/01/2021 11:56

Thanks @StuntNun. I feel fine without so far so I will see how I get on. May invest in a bag of that from Amazon. I don't eat much cured meat but I do add salt to my food for flavour so will keep doing that.

Talking of clean eating, intrigued by the cheeseburger pie @VeryLittleOwl

1WayOrAnother2 · 19/01/2021 12:03

[quote nowlook]@BrassicaBabe
The stress hormone cortisol stimulates glucose production in your liver.
(this isn't GMTV science- it's in the Lancet Wink). When I'm particularly stressed, I get more fat around the middle. Perhaps the running is more helpful to you than you think.[/quote]
That explains something that happened when my husband was in the ICU with other trauma patients.

On a single day ALL the patients on the ward tested 'high' for blood-sugar. Staff checked the monitors etc. but found that the readings were correct.

They were a little surprised - but not unduely so.

I of course was at once worried about DH developing diabetes (a distraction from many even more serious matters at the time). They explained that this would probably be temporary thing and did happen under stress (though not usually to everyone on the ward). It was.

BIWI · 19/01/2021 12:05

[quote Bestbees]@BIWI thank you! I will expect slow but steady and try to cut down on the cream a bit (probably just over excited to be "ALLOWED'' IT!)[/quote]
I know! Grin

But sadly, for some of us it doesn't help.

The other thing you may have to start doing (sorry!) is keeping an eye on your calories. Sadly this does come into play as you get nearer and nearer your target. And obviously cutting cream down/out will help with that.

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lurknolinger · 19/01/2021 12:12

Sorry late to the party, but reporting in now. I weighed in yesterday - 12.1.0. - so my starting weight is just 0.6lbs higher than when I finished the last boot camp December (I lost a stone and would like to lose another) , which I'm really pleased with.
I had about 10 days 'off' LC at Christmas - had thought I'd only take 3 but temptation lead me astray! Result was I put 6lbs on - but glad to say that having got back on track 2 weeks ago most of that is gone. So to the poster that was worried about big weight gains in short period of time, it's is a bit shocking but as BIWI has said a lot of it will be water so it's possible to get rid of most of it quite quickly.
To be honest it was the awful feeling of being so bloated that made me realise that some of the 'cheats' just aren't worth it.
Food yesterday
B - none I'm doing 16:8
L- egg mayonnaise big salad with oily dressing and HM coleslaw
D - Shakshuka fried shredded cabbage
Today
L - HM broccoli and Stilton soup with baked salami and Parmesan 'croutons' (thanks for the idea StuntNun!! )
D - HM cottage pie topped with celeriac and leek mash - Brussels sprouts and broccoli
3 litres of water plus one tea and one creamy coffee per day.

Lovely positive thread, packed full of great info, thanks to all - good luck everyone - KOKO

VeryLittleOwl · 19/01/2021 12:14

@ouchmyfeet - BIWI to thank for that one, it's one she's adapted. It's on the Low Carb Meat recipe thread, but copied below for quick reference. (I am not a mushroom fan, so substitute with more onion, but that does bring the carbs up a bit).

Cheeseburger Pie

Total carbs 9c. Serves 4

Ingredients:

500g minced beef
50g finely chopped onion
150g chopped mushrooms
100mls double cream
2 heaped tablespoons of mayo
150g strong cheddar grated
3 eggs
salt & pepper to taste
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce

Fry mince, onion and mushrooms together until cooked
Season to taste, add the Worcestershire sauce and stir.
Put into a shallow oven dish* and spread it out/flatten the top
Beat eggs add mayo, cream and cheese.
Pour over the top of mince and bake in oven Gas mark 5 for 20 to 25 mins until set and golden brown.

Ready to eat immediately, or you can leave to cool before taking out of dish, then cut it in to portions and wrap in cling film
This freezes very well.

This recipe is adapted from one that was on this website

*I have made this in a casserole dish and it worked well, but if you use a shallow oven tray/dish it's more like a savoury cake bake I think.