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Low-carb bootcamp

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Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - at last the finishing line!

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BIWI · 22/07/2019 08:23

Isn't 10 weeks a long time!

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness is here one last time

Although this is the last official weigh-in, this thread will stay up for general chat/support until the next Bootcamp - probably in October.

I hope everyone has a good 'final' result.

Every Bootcamp is different, but this one has, I have to say, been remarkably well behaved Grin. I've lost the Big Stick somewhere in the back of a cupboard!

While I know you're all here and reading because I know people don't read all the posts if you want to take the opportunity to meet @ShagMeRiggins (and me) for a lighthearted Bootcamp style & beauty event probably with gin thrown in for good measure send me a PM!

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tea69 · 05/08/2019 19:27

I've had a good day!

Lots of walking as out with DS and may go for another walk later 😆

Today's food

Sausage and egg, almond milk coffee

Chicken salad for lunch, almond milk flat white

Fish and salad for dinner

Dark choc

tea69 · 05/08/2019 19:39

I've had a good day!

Lots of walking as out with DS and may go for another walk later 😆

Today's food

Sausage and egg, almond milk coffee

Chicken salad for lunch, almond milk flat white

Fish and salad for dinner

Dark choc

tea69 · 05/08/2019 19:39

I've had a good day!

Lots of walking as out with DS and may go for another walk later 😆

Today's food

Sausage and egg, almond milk coffee

Chicken salad for lunch, almond milk flat white

Fish and salad for dinner

Dark choc

Rayna37 · 05/08/2019 19:39

Just caught up with the thread for the first time in a few days which motivated me to swap my chips for veg when ordering dinner as I was wavering! Eating out on my own, away with work. Steak and green veg with a sauce.
Lots of lovely BBQ food this weekend but not very strict and I'm barely running at the moment which isn't helping.
4lbs over target still.

Tea69 if you think you might be eating too much try to post quantities with your food. Eg I'd suggest sausages and eggs for breakfast should be max 2 of each and ideally 2 of one and one of the other maybe?And I'd assume chicken curry to be the equivalent of one breast or 2 boneless thigh pieces but you might be miles over?!

Rayna37 · 05/08/2019 19:39

Just caught up with the thread for the first time in a few days which motivated me to swap my chips for veg when ordering dinner as I was wavering! Eating out on my own, away with work. Steak and green veg with a sauce.
Lots of lovely BBQ food this weekend but not very strict and I'm barely running at the moment which isn't helping.
4lbs over target still.

Tea69 if you think you might be eating too much try to post quantities with your food. Eg I'd suggest sausages and eggs for breakfast should be max 2 of each and ideally 2 of one and one of the other maybe?And I'd assume chicken curry to be the equivalent of one breast or 2 boneless thigh pieces but you might be miles over?!

Notlostjustexploring · 05/08/2019 20:09

I stepped off the wagon on Thursday and I feel like I'm currently chasing it trying to grab it with my finger tips. I'm currently scaling back on breastfeeding quite sharpish before my return to work and I think the shift in hormones really screwed with my mood so I fell into all the carbs. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'm annoyed at myself. I also stayed off the wagon until last night. Currently at my parents so although out of routine has meant being in control of my food mostly. So my menu for tomorrow is planned as:

Breakfast, probably nothing, maybe creamy coffee.

Lunch, a warm salad, lamb meatballs, halloumi, spring onions, spinach and garlic, all sprinkled with cumin before cooking. Served with yogurt, cucumber and black pepper.

Dinner, cottage pie with a swede topping.

Strawberries and cream might feature somewhere also.

I'm currently wearing some rather tight jeans which is definitely focusing the mind.

Grimbles · 05/08/2019 20:10

I've slipped off plan the last week or so. I blame the school holidays Grin

Like others have said I need to log my food for accountability purposes. As I am off on holiday next week where I will definately be off plan I'm going to be really strict this week.

Lunch: whey shake made with unsweetened almond milk and cream to add fat. 250ml almond milk, 50ml cream and a scoop of powder. Roughly 3g of carbs

Snacked on olives, chicken slices and chotizo.

Dinner will be celeriac tartiflette which I will add extra veg to, plus roast green beans and garlic.

Notlostjustexploring · 05/08/2019 20:44

BIWI I have a random favour to ask regarding the SoF, in particular the section on veg carb counts.

Please may I add in two new columns, typical weight (mass) of item and carb count per item? I am rubbish at knowing what 100g of anything is (except cake ingredients, figures), so I keep weighing a swede to remember how much of it I shouldn't be eating (for example), weighing mushrooms etc, and I thought your spreadsheet would be a useful place to note the numbers, especially if others could use it?

I'm asking as I'm not sure of the etiquette around editing the SoF, and where I work, editing someone else's spreadsheet without permission is a shooting offence...

BIWI · 05/08/2019 22:44
Grin

That sounds like a good idea @Notlostjustexploring - but it's @AthelstaneTheUnReady you need to ask about doing this, as she is Mistress of All Things Fabulous

@1Wildheartsease I've got the Fast800 recipe book, and there are quite a few meals in there which are sufficiently low in carbs. I know exactly what you mean by calorie counting/not wanting to do that again, but all I can say from the meals I've cooked from the book so far is that they are easy and also very tasty. I think that if you do intermittent fasting it does help to meet a daily low calorie target - and even if you only did it for a week or so, it might help to get things moving again for you.

What I notice from many of the comments on the Fast 800 Facebook community that I've joined, to find out more about how it might work, is that the focus is often on calories, and people still ignore the carbs - or rather the importance of keeping carbs low/lowish. I do think, based on everything I've read so far, that a low carb diet combined with fewer calories (not necessarily a VLCD) could well be the way to go as you near your target.

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1Wildheartsease · 05/08/2019 22:59

Thanks BIWI. I might try some of the meals then and possibly IF.

The med diet it is based on is attractive ( I might need to be at target before adding lentils ... but how funny that these are things I miss rather than cakes/sweets/pasta. Doing this has really changed my tastes.)

YesQueen · 06/08/2019 00:30

Forgot to post my days food
B - total, cream, few raspberries
L - chicken Caesar salad with Parmesan
Snack - I was busy at work, grumpy and craving (TOTM) so had a low carb protein shake
T - JO mustard chicken (so good) with buttered cabbage and leeks
Had a few pork scratchings while watching TV

Vast amounts of water, probably 3l

Note to check size of pork scratchings bags before ordering online. I thought they were single serving ones and bought 6. They're not Grin

Almahart · 06/08/2019 06:25

@1Wildheartsease @BIWI I’ve been wondering about the fast 800 recipes too. I am missing sweet potatoes, chickpeas, lentils.

I’ve decided to stay on maintenance for a bit and get back to it in September after my holiday but I’ve found my tastes have really changed, I’m not at all interested in sweet things. I have found some lower carb bread by Hovis I think, on Ocado. It’s 9 carbs a slice, which is obviously a lot but normal bread is 40 or so. I had a slice with salami and tomato yesterday and it was really nice. Proper seeded bread, tasted normal. But obviously, maintenance only.

StuntNun · 06/08/2019 07:04

Almahart do you freeze the bread and just take out one slice at a time? I have a wheat intolerance so I can't eat bread anyway but I do miss having something to put pate on!

BIWI aren't the Fast800 recipes too low in fat for this WOE? Wildheart I definitely suggest cutting down on the dairy, even if just for a trial. It can cause a hyperinsulinaemic response in some people that plays hell with your appetite. Have you tried intermittent fasting at all? A few 16-hour fasts might give you the boost you need.

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:20

I've been looking at the FAST 800 info I can find online (haven't got the book) and I wondered about the fat content too. I also miss pulses and dream of reintroducing them a little when I'm at goal weight (in the distant future). I'm really having to watch my portion sizes to get any shift in weight but I do have some reduced mobility following an operation last year (the weight I'm currently loosing is what I gained post surgery and I needed to loose a lot before that. )

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:20

I've been looking at the FAST 800 info I can find online (haven't got the book) and I wondered about the fat content too. I also miss pulses and dream of reintroducing them a little when I'm at goal weight (in the distant future). I'm really having to watch my portion sizes to get any shift in weight but I do have some reduced mobility following an operation last year (the weight I'm currently loosing is what I gained post surgery and I needed to loose a lot before that. )

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:20

I've been looking at the FAST 800 info I can find online (haven't got the book) and I wondered about the fat content too. I also miss pulses and dream of reintroducing them a little when I'm at goal weight (in the distant future). I'm really having to watch my portion sizes to get any shift in weight but I do have some reduced mobility following an operation last year (the weight I'm currently loosing is what I gained post surgery and I needed to loose a lot before that. )

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:23

Sorry, I don't know what's happening to my posts, keep telling me not working and to try again then pop up in multiple

I'm also intermittent fasting. I find it easier to have no breakfast, a small lunch and an average size dinner than to have three small meals.

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:24

Sorry, I don't know what's happening to my posts, keep telling me not working and to try again then pop up in multiple

I'm also intermittent fasting. I find it easier to have no breakfast, a small lunch and an average size dinner than to have three small meals.

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:24

Sorry, I don't know what's happening to my posts, keep telling me not working and to try again then pop up in multiple

I'm also intermittent fasting. I find it easier to have no breakfast, a small lunch and an average size dinner than to have three small meals.

BIWI · 06/08/2019 07:39

This is really weird - on the app, there's a post from @StuntNun following the one from @Almahart - but despite refreshing the page, it won't appear here!

Anyway, she was asking if the Fast 800 is lower fat than Bootcamp - and yes, it is.

The Fast 800 advocates daily intake of 30% carbs 30% protein and 40% fat. So although it's a higher fat way of eating, it's lower than we would eat, and also allows more carbs.

I think there are some very positive things about it, from all my reading so far:

  • if you're prepared to count calories and be strict about it, and especially if you combine it with intermittent fasting, you can see fast (but safe) weight loss
  • it allows you to include pulses and legumes (as well as more fruit than we would have on Bootcamp), which may suit many people more than the more restrictive approach that we take
  • it's based around real food, and the emphasis is on fresh foods and home-cooking, rather than convenience solutions; the recipes in the original diet book as well as in the accompanying recipe book are both easy and delicious (the ones I've tried so far, anyway), as well as satisfying. I did think that, being such a low calorie plan, they would be tiny portions, but they aren't at all
  • it is based on very sound science, especially the work of Professor Roy Taylor from the University of Newcastle

Having said all of that, one of the things about Bootcamp that I know works for many of us is the removal of the pressure to count calories (and carbs). I know that for me, when I started flirting with the 5:2 diet, I quickly got obsessed about calories and it took me back to a place where my diet was focused around nasty, processed diet food - cup-a-soups and Muller Lights, etc.

But I always thought that if you could combine 5:2 with low carbing, so you have created a natural mechanism for appetite suppression, that it could be the way to go - and really that's pretty much what the Fast 800 is. (By the way, I was roundly disabused of this and pretty much forced to leave the early 5:2 threads on here for suggesting this!!!)

I think, ultimately, it's down to personal preference and what works best for you. But of all the other plans I've read about, or tried, this is the only other one (so far) that I'd recommend, if people feel that Bootcamp isn't for them.

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BIWI · 06/08/2019 07:40

... and now, of course, having said that @StuntNun's post isn't there it's magically appeared Grin

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StuntNun · 06/08/2019 07:47

BIWI have you looked at Jason Fung's plan? It combines low carb and fasting.

Almahart · 06/08/2019 07:57

That’s really helpful BIWI. I love boot camp and can’t imagine going back to a high carb diet ever again but would like to be able to mix it up a bit sometimes

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:57

Hi @BIWI. Something really strange is happening with my posts on the mobile app. Can I ask if they are showing on the thread and if they are appearing in multiple Thanks.

SittingontheSidelines · 06/08/2019 07:58

Hi @BIWI. Something really strange is happening with my posts on the mobile app. Can I ask if they are showing on the thread and if they are appearing in multiple Thanks.