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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!

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BIWI · 13/05/2018 21:42

There are over 220 of us signed up for this Bootcamp, which I'm fairly sure must be some kind of record!

I'm starting this thread this evening, so that you can have a chance to read it, but also because I have an early start tomorrow, and won't have the time in the morning.

So, firstly, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Many, many thanks to @AthelstaneTheUnready and @TimeIHadANameChange for offering to help out with this Flowers

When you click on the link, please look for the tab at the bottom that says 'May weigh-in'. There's still a tab to the last Bootcamp which we can't seem to delete - but your name will be on the May one.

Tomorrow, you enter your weight OR if you wish, you index it, which means that you start off at 100. For every pound you lose, you take one away. So if you start at 11 stone 13 pounds, and lose 5 pounds in the first week, then your second week you'd enter 95.

OR you don't have to be on the spreadsheet if you don't want to.

If you don't enter your weight for a couple of weeks, then we'll take you off the spreadsheet altogether.

If you find your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic!. Just add your name at the bottom, and then it will be re-alphabetised later.

And here are the rules

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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BIWI · 15/05/2018 19:38

@oldbirdy

And I repeat - we're only on day 2!!! It's not time to start changing things already as you haven't even got into Bootcamp yet!

Please have patience. You didn't put all the weight on overnight, so it's not going to come off overnight either!

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oldbirdy · 15/05/2018 19:40

Biwi
No I didn't mean that I should have lost loads overnight, lol.
I just meant that as I have a history of slow weight loss should I hold back on dairy.

Just got some ketone strips which show ketones in urine so I'm in the zone!

Lonesurvivor · 15/05/2018 19:43

This is my macros for today. I know we don't need to record but I was so off with my fat intake I needed to see what to do. Plus for me this is going to take time and I think I'll need to be able to look back and get a reminder of what I need to eat and do to get to my goal.

Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!
Hefzi · 15/05/2018 19:50

@oldbirdy me too Sad Unfortunately, I found I'm massively sensitive to dairy on this WOE, which is a bastard as a) cheese is my favourite food and b) I'm a veggie that can't eat tofu or soya

One thing I have noticed too: if I consume my normal weekly amount of cheese (that keeps my weight stable or loosing around 1-2lb a week) in Bootcamp, I have very slow loss or even a gain. I'm in my third week of BC now, and actually "gained" 6lbs in the first week, despite otherwise being rigorous. I am undergoing a seriously stressful time, so wondered if that had affected it- but then checked my food diary and spotted the issue right away.

Why don't you give it a week and then tweak? No point denying yourself dairy unless you have to!

Iamnotacerealkiller · 15/05/2018 19:51

Hi BIWI.

Sorry i wasnt intending to give the impression that salt was bad, i realise that i should choose my words more wisely.

by too much salt i mean TOO MUCH...felt quite unwell and parched. i believe that i retained some water to dilute it as was drinking like a fish and not weeing much in comparison.

i have LCed on and off for a while and i usually see quite dramatic water weight loss in the first day or two amounting to 4-6lb so i have had less then expected. any retained water will only be temporary i know especially as today has been a more normal intake. yesterday i ate a frankly embrarrassing amount of hallumi and sausage containing way way more salt then im used to. :)

DirtyNell · 15/05/2018 19:53

@oldbirdy - my advice would be to reread the 10 rules and stick to them ! There's no benefit eating a brownie "mindfully". ( or part of one)
If you have a history of doing vlcd, it's probably a huge change to get used to lchf. The aim is to change your body ( your engine) to run on fat, instead of carbs. You wouldn't put diesel into a petrol car, and expect it to run.

If you are going to do a lchf woe, sneaking in carb "cheats", isn't cheating, it's sabotage, because your body won't switch over to burning fat for fuel. It's not a question of calories, it's just science.
You've got to eat plenty of fat, and NO processed carbs.

It can be really hard to undo all the years of pointing and syns, but it will be worth it - so many people here have lost stones in weight- the biggest step is to truly believe - Reread the rules, and don't think you can outsmart them, and eat the fat!
KOKO

oldbirdy · 15/05/2018 20:04

dirtynell
I feel a bit defensive of my tiny bit of brownie, it was about 1cm square if that, probably less. I understand it would have been better still not to have had it at all, but having resisted the biscuits, the crisps, the wraps and the sandwiches I was feeling deprived and my thought process was have a teeny bit, just a taste, then you won't feel hard done to and risk throwing the whole towel in and buying a bar of chocolate on the way home.

I am not perfect yet, and as you say have unlearning to do. I have read and understood the 10 rules and faced with a huge challenge on day 2 I think I handled it ok, not perfectly, but apparently enough to not prevent ketosis according to my newly acquired urine strips.

I hope that in weeks to come I can turn away from a tray full of cakes with a "meh".

AthelstaneTheUnready · 15/05/2018 20:11

Speckled, I think that may be because somewhere in your settings you have previously been asked what app to use to open something, and you've chosen a pdf, so now it thinks you always want to use pdf. How you fix that though, is beyond me - anyone else know?

oldbirdy, last week I put on 7lbs in one day, so yes it's possible! Admittedly that was bloat and retention and a shed load of food and wine, not fat. But 9lbs in over 2 months is not only normal, it's highly likely on a daily wine habit (speaking from experience here).

Your liver stops processing fat while it deals with the toxic stuff (alcohol) - sending it straight to storage instead. So anything you eat with alcohol will not get burned for energy. If you're going to have a glass after strict bootcamp, then the best weightloss advice is not to eat for a few hours either side of that glass. Which is, of course, not very healthy advice. It is a constant woe to me that alcohol is just not healthy, however I try to cut it Sad

nevermindthebollox · 15/05/2018 20:12

Day two nearly over!! I've busied myself with a day sorting the garden, acing like mad now but chocolate or wind cravings thankfully! I just had a coffee with cream for brekky as I wasn't that hungry, a king prawn salad with mayo and 2 babybels for lunch, baked cod and chorizo with roasted veg for dinner. I have only drank a litre of water today but will try and dirt that out tomorrow! Hope everyone is getting on well.

nevermindthebollox · 15/05/2018 20:12

Excuse typos Blush I meant aching and wine not wind!!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 15/05/2018 20:17

Hah! Grin I envy your lack of wind cravings, never. I have been fighting the urge for a glass of whisky all afternoon (and no, I do not usually drink whisky in the afternoons!), and wind this evening. Made it by the skin of my knuckles, and am relieved that it gets a lot easier a lot quicker. Because I couldn't rely on just willpower for weeks on end, that's for sure.

prettybird · 15/05/2018 20:21

If you feel parched, despite having lots of water, then counter intuitively it might be that you need more salt and electrolytes, ie some bouillon or Bovril/Marmite.

I've just remembered something someone recommended on a previous Boot Camp that I used to enjoy (so must buy some strong Cheddar in my next shop): slices of cheddar, spread with butter and Bovril or Marmite. You either love it or hate it Wink - but I used to enjoy it as a snack if I really needed one.

nevermindthebollox · 15/05/2018 20:22

@AthelstaneTheUnready I have been low carbing for the past three weeks so have got into it, but I'm going at it seriously now! I've allowed myself dark chocolate and vodka and diet coke in the past three weeks, that's gone now and I'm going to stick to it! Well done getting through another day, we can and WILL do this!!

Lonesurvivor · 15/05/2018 20:26

oldbirdy when you were on the shakes can you remember if they were low carb?
A lot of those protein shakes can still be high in carbs and calories so your diet may not have been as low as you thought.

I understand what you're saying about not wanting to feel deprived but the sooner you get yourself into a clean break the better it'll be for you. You were able to use your mind over matter to convince yourself you were having a full portion, next time try and use it to convince yourself you don't need any of it because it'll mess up your hard work.

I've had a fair few attempts at low carb over the years and it worked really well for 3/4 weeks but because I was doing my own makey upey version it wasn't sustainable and I'd give up. Initially following The Rules is hard, hard to follow and hard to get your head around but all of a sudden everything falls into place and they work and keep you on track without trying or feeling deprived. I wouldn't have believed this myself two weeks ago.

PuddingAndHotMilk · 15/05/2018 20:33

I'm really struggling to keep up with the thread. Sorry everyone!
To those struggling with hunger I can promise you it does get LOADS easier. Water and salts are a huge part of helping the detox.
I've been broadly LCHF for 4 weeks while ramping up my running and I haven't lost a single pound yet but I've dropped two holes on my belt. I'm just trusting the process.
Today I had yoghurt for Breakfast and pork belly and scallops with green beans. Snacked on olives and prosciutto. Steak for dinner with wilted spinach and fried leeks once DH has wrestled DD to bed Hmm
I am REALLY struggling to not have a gin and slimline. This is my nemesis!

Ifonlyiweretaller · 15/05/2018 20:36

interesting about some of you having weird dreams last night - I quite enjoyed mine Wink !
I have belly pork and baby cabbage roasting in the over and it smells divine, cant wait to eat it. Am really enjoying getting back into this low carbing and am still learning a lot from this forum , despite having done it on and off for years. Great support from everyone!

wherehavealltheflowersgone · 15/05/2018 20:39

B: Greek yog and co-yo

L: egg salad

D: baked omelette with cheese and chorizo and salad

S: mini cheese, olives, yoghurt

3L water plus 2 electrolyte tablets

Iamnotacerealkiller · 15/05/2018 20:41

Anyone got good ideas to increase the amount of fat in ones diet? i think i probably eat too much protein. I eat lots of FF dairy and eggs, choose fatty meat, use lots of oil and butter in stirfrys and things already but any other ideas? Recipes or foodstuffs that have a high fat content? I detest avocado and too much butter unless melted (mmmm just thought of using more garlic butter...)

UnimaginativeUsername · 15/05/2018 20:44

interesting about some of you having weird dreams last night - I quite enjoyed mine

Me too. Grin

oldbirdy · 15/05/2018 20:45

lonesurvivor the shakes, which I made with almond milk, are 15g carbs each. Is that high? So 30g a day (plus the almond milk). Looking at the ingreds they are 30 percent carbs but very low sugars. The weird thing is, on the same regimen 3 years ago I lost weight very quickly (but put it all back on quickly too). This time I lost nothing at all.

Anyway thanks for your advice everyone, I will stick with dairy and see how I go for at least a week. And there are no more training days so no more trays of cakes in front of me!

Twoo · 15/05/2018 20:45

Great reading all your stories.

Athel’ hand holding and I hope you feel more settled soon Flowers

Happy 20th Anniversary Pretty’ Wine < lc Grin

Abbey’ to reduce by 4 dress sizes is fantastic!

Oldbirdy well done on resisting the MacDonalds!

I’ve stuck to plan today. Don’t feel hungry in the slightest. Nicely satiated.

ilovecherries · 15/05/2018 20:48

It's not often that the speed of a bootcamp thread defeats me, but this one has! One day off MN yesterday and can't catch up! Anyway, still trucking along, following the rules, buying loads of new clothes for summer :). Last year we went on holiday 6 weeks into bootcamp, and I was pleased because my size 22s had become loose enough to be comfortable again. This year I'm selling those size 22s and buying size 12 :). This works everyone, if you follow the rules, one day at a time!

Destinysdaughter · 15/05/2018 20:53

Iamnotacerealkiller garlic mayonnaise with your salads?

HolgerLowCarbingLoser · 15/05/2018 20:54

Hello everyone,

I’m late to start today, and have actually come in to say that I’m dealing with a bereavement this week, so I don’t think I’ll be able to commit properly to this bootcamp right now. I wish you all the best of luck. I might dip into the thread here and there later on, because it’s so inspirational, but I won’t be actively participating so my name can be taken off the spreadsheet.

KOKO x

Lonesurvivor · 15/05/2018 20:57

oldbirdy so you were having 30g through shakes plus whatever was in your dinner. Doesn't sound high at all, medium at worst but maybe it's a guideline for you that you need to be lower carb than this.
I'm finding the last week that following the rules has reduced my carbs from 30/40g to 15/25. I'm mid forties and find it more difficult to lose weight the older I get too. If you can stick to two shakes and one meal, you've great will power so you can get this first harder week over and after that you won't even need it as much:)