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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

May Low Carb Bootcamp: the preparation thread

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BIWI · 07/05/2018 15:02

The next Bootcamp starts on Monday 14 May.

In advance of this, here are some things to start to think about.

THE RULES

First, make sure you know the rules! I'll put those in a separate post, but it's a good idea to print them out, so that you have them to hand for each reference.

You do need to follow the rules to the letter. Low carbing isn't a very forgiving WOE. It's not like calorie counting, where one 'bad' day can be overcome by a 'good' day the next. And it's especially important in the first two weeks because we're ensuring that we switch our bodies away from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat.

After the first two weeks there is the option to move onto a slightly more relaxed approach, Bootcamp Light. It's entirely up to you whether or not you do this. But it's critical that you are strict in the first two weeks.

PLANNING AHEAD

Do what you can to get rid of as many of the carby things in your fridge/freezer/cupboards - especially things that you know are likely to tempt you.

Start planning your week in terms of meals and food. Make sure you have plenty of low carb ingredients available. Meal planning may be a bit of a chore, but in the early stages of low carbing, especially if it's a new WOE (way of eating) for you, it's vital.

In the initial few days, you may also like to have things available to snack on. Within a week or so of low carbing, you should find that you're not hungry at all between meals, so you won't need to snack, but while you're adjusting, it's good to have something you know you can grab.

Good low carb snacks:

hard boiled eggs (always a good idea to keep a few in the fridge)
cooked low carb sausages (The Black Farmer is a good brand, but all the supermarkets premium sausages tend to be lower carb. Avoid ones with extra ingredients, and check the back of the packet to see how many carbs they contain. As an example, Sainsbury's So Organic pork sausages are only 0.9g carbs per 100g, The Black Farmer ones are 1.0g carbs. Avoid like the plague 'ordinary' sausages, as they are very carby - Richmond Thick Pork sausages are 16g carbs per 100g!
olives
cheese
cucumber/celery

If you're at work but have a canteen, check out what they're offering that is low carb. If they have a salad bar that's usually an OK option, but make sure that you're getting plenty of fat with your salad, and not just adding low fat dressings. You may need to take your own lunch with you if their menu is - as is highly likely - heavily focused around carbs. And if they do a 'healthy' option beware! This is going to be low fat, which is not what we're doing here.

If your job means you're out and about a lot, this is hard and something you'll have to prepare carefully for. On-the-go food options are always very carby - sandwiches, crisps, chocolate bars. Even if presented as 'healthy', like cereal bars or Graze boxes, these will invariably be too high in carbs as well, because there's often a lot of sugar as well as higher carb ingredients like nuts and seeds.

M&S do some good things - individually wrapped pieces of cheese, they also do pork crackling strips and rounds, which are a good standby. Most of their salads have pasta or rice or noodles as a basis, but there are one two that don't - and along with some cooked meats or fish you can usually put together a reasonable low carb meal.

READ UP ON LOW CARBING

The more you know about it, and the science behind it, the more likely you are to be able to stick to it.

You'll find that a lot of people around you will dismiss low carbing as a fad. People will tell you that eating so much fat is bad for you - despite the fact that this simply isn't true.

But it can be very undermining when people do this to you, and you may find your resolve wavering.

When I post the first thread next Monday there will be a link to the spreadsheet where we all enter our weight. On the tabs on the spreadsheet you'll find links to all kinds of different resources that will help you.

But in the meantime, if you want to do some reading, have a look at The Diet Doctor's website.

Escape the Diet Trap by Dr John Briffa is also a book that's really worth getting hold of - it's very easy to read and explains low carbing really well.

LEARN TO LOVE FAT!

Olive oil, butter, cream, cheese. What's not to love?!

But you'll find it hard, if you've always been told that fat is bad, to fully embrace it. But it's essential. A low carb diet is a high fat one - which is often why it's abbreviated to LCHF.

Fat helps to keep you full. It's also good for you (apart from transfats). Importantly, it makes things taste lovely!

CONSIDER HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MONITOR YOUR WEIGHT

We have a spreadsheet to enter our weight every week, but this is by no means compulsory. There are a couple of other ways to monitor your progress - first, take your measurements, and repeat these each week. Second, take an item of clothing which its currently too tight, and try that on each week.

If you do decide to weigh, then weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked, after you've been to the loo.

It's up to you whether you weigh weekly or daily. Some people find that weighing daily keeps them focused on what they're doing - others find it too hard, as natural daily fluctuations aren't always helpful!

DO YOU NEED TO SEE YOUR GP?

If you have a medical condition, particularly diabetes or high or low blood pressure, you should talk to your doctor or nurse about low carbing. Low carbing will reduce high blood pressure, and help improve your blood sugar levels, such that the level of medication you're taking may become inappropriate.

If you're in any way worried about a medical condition or medication that you have, and how this might interact with low carbing, then please take medical advice. I am not a GP or medically trained in any way. I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist, either. The advice given on Bootcamp is based on my own experiences, and the (considerable) reading that I have done/continue to do.

GET A JOURNAL TO KEEP A RECORD OF YOUR DAILY MENU

Writing down what you've eaten and drunk is incredibly useful, and can help to keep you focused. If, for any reason, you aren't seeing success one week, going back to what you've been eating and drinking can help you identify any possible issues.

It also helps to keep you honest with yourself! If you know you have to write it down, it can stop you cheating.

READ AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHAT THREADS

The help, support and general camaraderie on the chat threads is the most valuable thing about Bootcamp.

Please don't just jump on the thread to post your own progress or menus, but take the time to read what other people have written

The threads move very quickly - especially in the first couple of weeks - so make sure you bookmark them so you don't lose your place. But also take the time to help others out with any questions or issues that they have.

And if you have a question, please make sure you read the thread to see if anyone else has asked that before you. It's very, very wearing being asked to explain something that's already been talked about.

READ THE BOOTCAMP RECIPE THREADS

There are several of these, all stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic. There are some fabulous recipes on those threads, and so you should have absolutely no excuse not to eat lovely food. And please feel free to add to them!

A FINAL REMINDER - THE 'BLACKLIST'

These are foods that you shouldn't be eating at all on Bootcamp:

pasta/couscous/polenta/noodles
rice
flour/cornflour (so be careful of things that come in sauces, as they are usually thickened with flour or cornflour, and absolutely nothing that's in batter of any kind)
cakes/biscuits/muffins/bagels/doughnuts (should be obvious, but just in case ...)
legumes/pulses/grains
potatoes/sweet potatoes/sweetcorn/peas (these are the carbiest veg; on the spreadsheet you'll also find a list of carb counts for veg)
sugar/honey/syrup/chocolate
balsamic vinegar (wine vinegar/ordinary vinegars are fine, at around 0.5g/0.6g carbs per 100ml, but balsamic is very high in carbs at around 22g carbs per 100ml)

BEWARE THE BIG STICK!

I think that's all for now! I look forward to getting going next week

OP posts:
Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 21:12

I am thinking about it again Cherries bu its the non-pooing that so putting me off a bit , although i've investigated magnesium and gummy bears! now ! ( its desperate measures for holiday ) ...

Don't worry, I wont tell 'them' your intimate details Wink) .. What size is your 'moderate protein' ? Say one chicken breast' size? To what? A couple of handfuls of salad leaves?

traceyturnblatt · 09/05/2018 21:17

Just checking in to say hi! 😊

Love hearing all the success stories. I've got a stone to lose so I'm back at my pre baby weight before my first of two sons and I'm so looking forward to it! You are really motivational!

I've gradually cut out wheat recently due to horrific IBS but I'm hoping this WOE will help with this and my fibromyalgia 🙌🏻

PuddingAndHotMilk · 09/05/2018 21:24

I'd like to join boot camp if I can? I clearly need to change my name tho Hmm

Cherries what an amazing and inspirational story!

I had some weight loss success last year on paleo then fell of the wagon. I am currently 12.5st and want to be 9 (although 9.5 is more realistic perhaps). The more I read about LCHF/keto the more it makes sense. I kinda started this week but the focus of a group would be great. Do I need to do anything else or just say 'I'm in' and get involved? I'm also a runner who is getting back out there after a 4year hiatus and that had put me off LCHF but reading up it sounds like it might be that carbs aren't actually needed for running at all!?

I've not been on MN for about 3.5 years and it's totally different so please forgive me if I screw up...

ilovecherries · 09/05/2018 21:41

laska my protein is usually two eggs, a salmon fillet, two drumsticks or thighs, half a tin of tuna in oil, 100gms of mince, palm sized steak, chop etc. Tonight I had a chilli pan fried salmon fillet with 3 different veg - asparagus, broccoli and courgetti - all sautéed in lots of olive oil and lemon. Lunch was 2 poached eggs with raw spinach, cold roasted asparagus and cold roasted courgette chunks.

mickeymacca · 09/05/2018 21:41

Really looking forward to joining you ladies..
Twoo hope it goes OK for you at the breast clinic what a worry for you xx

mickeymacca · 09/05/2018 21:45

Oh and thank you BIWI for all your time setting this up 👍

Rshard · 09/05/2018 21:54

Sending positive vibes for Monday twoo

Really looking forward to boot camp starting on Monday, I’m hoping that this is the one that gets me to my goal!

Lots of inspiration from stuntnun, cherries and brassica! This will be my third boot camp, I lost 3 stone on a well known regime but was bored and the weight was starting to creep back on and then I discovered this last October. Since then I’ve lost almost 2 stone and so many inches. It really has changed me for the better, largely down to the inspiration and support here.

There are quite a few runners here pudding so you’re in good company! I’m running faster (for me) on this woe and feeling more energetic generally.

Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 21:56

cherries and is that your usual daily amount? You are not hungry on that?

PuddingAndHotMilk · 09/05/2018 22:07

Thanks rshard that's great to know.

BerylStreep · 09/05/2018 22:08

I'm really looking forward to stating bootcamp. I did really well when I started back to Bootcamp in November 2017 and lost 4kg, lost about 3.5kg more in the January one, but am really struggling at the moment.

I got a promotion in work, and what should have been a really exciting achievement has actually been really stressful. My manager is absolutely horrendous, and the fury and rage I feel every time I speak to him means I am stress eating and drinking. He is so utterly sexist that he doesn't even realise his objectionable views and unconscious bias is hanging out of his every pore.

I was supposed to be doing dry May, but that has gone completely out the window. Good news is that I only have 12 working days left with this manager and my lovely new manager is coming back. not counting

So, I'm looking forward to the structure and inspiration of Bootcamp, which I know really works for me. I think I need to keep an eye on dairy, especially cream in coffee, and obvs need to cut out the alcohol.

I also have quite a bit on over the next couple of months, 2 long weekends away, a week's sailing course, and a week's sailing holiday, but I should be able to do lc food during these - might relent a bit on the alcohol then.

I love hearing everyone's stories Flowers

ilovecherries · 09/05/2018 22:13

Yes, that's my usual amount, always with a few good glugs of olive oil. Always have three different vegetables at every meal - some repetition today just because we had leftovers. I'm rarely hungry, and if I am, it's always because I've pulled back on the fat - even after all this time I still would drift back to low fat if I don't keep an eye on it. Old programming.

If I have salads, I'll have different kinds of lettuce, spinach, spring onions, celery, olives, avocado and peppers. I also eat cheese a couple of times a week, full fat yogurt a couple of times a week, the odd coffee with cream. I try not to eat processed stuff, but like a teeny bit of chorizo as seasoning sometimes, and I always have a cooked brunch on Saturdays.

Seafour · 09/05/2018 22:20

Timeihadanamechange the monster rabbit is called Smokey, they were great friends until Lola had her first season and he definitely cooled off because she was all hormones. It's been ten days since she was spayed and things are better already.

Laska i can also offer some reassurance that lchf is different to lc when it comes to constipation. I can second the lots of olive oil plus drinking hot water first thing in the morning.

MelanieCheeks · 09/05/2018 22:24

Marking place!

Pudding, I'm a runner too, will be interested to see how LCing has n effect.

Nan0second · 09/05/2018 22:44

Another success here! I started bootcamp 2 or 3 weeks late in January. I wasn’t convinced and told myself I’d give it 2 weeks.
It’s cured my ibs and my back pain. My red caesarean scar is now pale and almost invisible.
Also I’ve lost nearly 10kg (I had originally hoped for 8kg) and only have 2kg left to lose to get to my pre pregnancy weight. I love this way of eating. I don’t particularly snack (I don’t want to) and am no longer ruled by sugar cravings. More importantly, I haven’t binge eaten or emotionally eaten since this began. I have a healthy relationship with food and hope / think that I will be a long term low carber.
I will be 2 weeks late to the low carb party / bootcamp though as we are going on holiday. I admit I’m a bit nervous but I know I can get back to this Smile

Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 23:02

Ok .. I am going to do it ! Ill get some magnesium tablets as well , its 7 weeks until my holiday so although I cant commit to the whole 10 weeks because of that, I should be able to lose some ..

GeneandFred · 09/05/2018 23:24

@onlypink try soy milk. I drink tea with it after worrying about the carb levels in semi skimmed milk. I've also recently cut out sugar. I drink hazelnut milk in coffee. It's beautiful.

ilovecherries · 09/05/2018 23:26

I take magnesium tablets anyway for night cramps. GP suggested them and they really help - so perhaps that has inadvertently helped the gut situation as well.

Twoo · 10/05/2018 05:53

Thank you Rshard & Mickey’. I had a call from the Hospital and they’ve brought it forward to Friday, something about a 2 week rule. At least it will be out of the way for the weekend Grin

mickeymacca · 10/05/2018 06:03

Oh that's good Twoo. Breast clinics are usually pretty good at carrying out all checks in the one appointment if they possibly can so hopefully they'll be able to put your mind at rest for the weekend x

Rshard · 10/05/2018 06:15

That good news twoo

Bluntness100 · 10/05/2018 06:31

Morning all.

I'm kind of looking forward to boot camp. I'm missing the motivation of the threads. Although I've been on the straight and narrow, how much I'm eating is creeping up. I still have a little to loose up top and that ain't going to get me there.😳

Roll on the 14 th...

Eolian · 10/05/2018 07:29

Pudding - I'm a runner returning after a hiatus too. I've done Bootcamp before while I was running and didn't find it a problem at all.

MrsBertBibby · 10/05/2018 07:35

Preparation overdrive! I started around 3 weeks ago at 14 st 10. This morning, a milestone reached: 13st 13 3/4.

BIWI · 10/05/2018 07:38

@PuddingAndHotMilk

You may find your running hard going to start with, as your body adjusts to low carbing. But once you're fat-adapted (i.e. your body has switched from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat) you should find that you're back to 'normal'. You may even find that you're running better/faster.

There's a really good book called The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance, written by Drs Volek and Phinny. They did their own research specifically focusing on elite athletes and how they performed on low carb diets.

I train twice a week with a PT (so I work a lot harder than if I was just on my own Grin) and I never eat before I go to the gym (unless it's in the afternoon). And when I was running - used to run 5K 2-3 times a week) I always ran in a fasted state.

When we hear phrases like 'hit the wall' or 'bonking' (which is what cyclists call it), what this means is that you have used up your body's glycogen stores. That's why endurance athletes/cyclists all have to stock up on carb-heavy snacks/drinks/gels.

But for low carbers, we have a much greater supply of fuel, which is our body fat. And even elite athletes who have very low body fat still have enough fuel to sustain them.

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AmIbeingTreasonable · 10/05/2018 08:00

I'd like to join you if I may. Can you please point me to the post with The Rules?
I did Atkins many years ago and the 3 things I remember are carb flu that seemed to last a long time, constipation, and as I drink a lot of tea, the cream in tea in place of milk, not looking forward to that bit. I imagine the science had come a bit further since the Atkins days, are there previous threads I should read or other info? I'm not in the UK so I might not have as much lc stuff available as you do.
Thank you 😁

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