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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

May Low Carb Bootcamp: the preparation thread

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BIWI · 07/05/2018 15:02

The next Bootcamp starts on Monday 14 May.

In advance of this, here are some things to start to think about.

THE RULES

First, make sure you know the rules! I'll put those in a separate post, but it's a good idea to print them out, so that you have them to hand for each reference.

You do need to follow the rules to the letter. Low carbing isn't a very forgiving WOE. It's not like calorie counting, where one 'bad' day can be overcome by a 'good' day the next. And it's especially important in the first two weeks because we're ensuring that we switch our bodies away from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat.

After the first two weeks there is the option to move onto a slightly more relaxed approach, Bootcamp Light. It's entirely up to you whether or not you do this. But it's critical that you are strict in the first two weeks.

PLANNING AHEAD

Do what you can to get rid of as many of the carby things in your fridge/freezer/cupboards - especially things that you know are likely to tempt you.

Start planning your week in terms of meals and food. Make sure you have plenty of low carb ingredients available. Meal planning may be a bit of a chore, but in the early stages of low carbing, especially if it's a new WOE (way of eating) for you, it's vital.

In the initial few days, you may also like to have things available to snack on. Within a week or so of low carbing, you should find that you're not hungry at all between meals, so you won't need to snack, but while you're adjusting, it's good to have something you know you can grab.

Good low carb snacks:

hard boiled eggs (always a good idea to keep a few in the fridge)
cooked low carb sausages (The Black Farmer is a good brand, but all the supermarkets premium sausages tend to be lower carb. Avoid ones with extra ingredients, and check the back of the packet to see how many carbs they contain. As an example, Sainsbury's So Organic pork sausages are only 0.9g carbs per 100g, The Black Farmer ones are 1.0g carbs. Avoid like the plague 'ordinary' sausages, as they are very carby - Richmond Thick Pork sausages are 16g carbs per 100g!
olives
cheese
cucumber/celery

If you're at work but have a canteen, check out what they're offering that is low carb. If they have a salad bar that's usually an OK option, but make sure that you're getting plenty of fat with your salad, and not just adding low fat dressings. You may need to take your own lunch with you if their menu is - as is highly likely - heavily focused around carbs. And if they do a 'healthy' option beware! This is going to be low fat, which is not what we're doing here.

If your job means you're out and about a lot, this is hard and something you'll have to prepare carefully for. On-the-go food options are always very carby - sandwiches, crisps, chocolate bars. Even if presented as 'healthy', like cereal bars or Graze boxes, these will invariably be too high in carbs as well, because there's often a lot of sugar as well as higher carb ingredients like nuts and seeds.

M&S do some good things - individually wrapped pieces of cheese, they also do pork crackling strips and rounds, which are a good standby. Most of their salads have pasta or rice or noodles as a basis, but there are one two that don't - and along with some cooked meats or fish you can usually put together a reasonable low carb meal.

READ UP ON LOW CARBING

The more you know about it, and the science behind it, the more likely you are to be able to stick to it.

You'll find that a lot of people around you will dismiss low carbing as a fad. People will tell you that eating so much fat is bad for you - despite the fact that this simply isn't true.

But it can be very undermining when people do this to you, and you may find your resolve wavering.

When I post the first thread next Monday there will be a link to the spreadsheet where we all enter our weight. On the tabs on the spreadsheet you'll find links to all kinds of different resources that will help you.

But in the meantime, if you want to do some reading, have a look at The Diet Doctor's website.

Escape the Diet Trap by Dr John Briffa is also a book that's really worth getting hold of - it's very easy to read and explains low carbing really well.

LEARN TO LOVE FAT!

Olive oil, butter, cream, cheese. What's not to love?!

But you'll find it hard, if you've always been told that fat is bad, to fully embrace it. But it's essential. A low carb diet is a high fat one - which is often why it's abbreviated to LCHF.

Fat helps to keep you full. It's also good for you (apart from transfats). Importantly, it makes things taste lovely!

CONSIDER HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MONITOR YOUR WEIGHT

We have a spreadsheet to enter our weight every week, but this is by no means compulsory. There are a couple of other ways to monitor your progress - first, take your measurements, and repeat these each week. Second, take an item of clothing which its currently too tight, and try that on each week.

If you do decide to weigh, then weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked, after you've been to the loo.

It's up to you whether you weigh weekly or daily. Some people find that weighing daily keeps them focused on what they're doing - others find it too hard, as natural daily fluctuations aren't always helpful!

DO YOU NEED TO SEE YOUR GP?

If you have a medical condition, particularly diabetes or high or low blood pressure, you should talk to your doctor or nurse about low carbing. Low carbing will reduce high blood pressure, and help improve your blood sugar levels, such that the level of medication you're taking may become inappropriate.

If you're in any way worried about a medical condition or medication that you have, and how this might interact with low carbing, then please take medical advice. I am not a GP or medically trained in any way. I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist, either. The advice given on Bootcamp is based on my own experiences, and the (considerable) reading that I have done/continue to do.

GET A JOURNAL TO KEEP A RECORD OF YOUR DAILY MENU

Writing down what you've eaten and drunk is incredibly useful, and can help to keep you focused. If, for any reason, you aren't seeing success one week, going back to what you've been eating and drinking can help you identify any possible issues.

It also helps to keep you honest with yourself! If you know you have to write it down, it can stop you cheating.

READ AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHAT THREADS

The help, support and general camaraderie on the chat threads is the most valuable thing about Bootcamp.

Please don't just jump on the thread to post your own progress or menus, but take the time to read what other people have written

The threads move very quickly - especially in the first couple of weeks - so make sure you bookmark them so you don't lose your place. But also take the time to help others out with any questions or issues that they have.

And if you have a question, please make sure you read the thread to see if anyone else has asked that before you. It's very, very wearing being asked to explain something that's already been talked about.

READ THE BOOTCAMP RECIPE THREADS

There are several of these, all stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic. There are some fabulous recipes on those threads, and so you should have absolutely no excuse not to eat lovely food. And please feel free to add to them!

A FINAL REMINDER - THE 'BLACKLIST'

These are foods that you shouldn't be eating at all on Bootcamp:

pasta/couscous/polenta/noodles
rice
flour/cornflour (so be careful of things that come in sauces, as they are usually thickened with flour or cornflour, and absolutely nothing that's in batter of any kind)
cakes/biscuits/muffins/bagels/doughnuts (should be obvious, but just in case ...)
legumes/pulses/grains
potatoes/sweet potatoes/sweetcorn/peas (these are the carbiest veg; on the spreadsheet you'll also find a list of carb counts for veg)
sugar/honey/syrup/chocolate
balsamic vinegar (wine vinegar/ordinary vinegars are fine, at around 0.5g/0.6g carbs per 100ml, but balsamic is very high in carbs at around 22g carbs per 100ml)

BEWARE THE BIG STICK!

I think that's all for now! I look forward to getting going next week

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MrsBertBibby · 08/05/2018 11:16

There is no research in humans for obvious reasons. Research in mice says link to small brains.

I would definitely say don't do it.

StuntNun · 08/05/2018 11:36

MrsBert Quorn and tofu are fine for low carb vegetarians but make sure you choose the lowest carb versions as they can vary enormously. You don't need to be in ketosis to lose weight and urine dipsticks aren't particularly helpful anyway so don't worry about that. If you've done a lot of work in the garden then you could have water retention as a result of the exercise. Did you have any muscle soreness a couple of days afterwards?

Thread I was low carb for almost all of my last pregnancy (although first trimester nausea led me to eat more carbs than usual for the first few weeks.) I recommend sticking to Bootcamp Light by the precautionary principle although there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of people having no issues with very low carb pregnancies. I also suggest taking a pregnancy vitamin to make sure that you are getting what you need since the baby will get first dibs on vitamins and minerals which could potentially leave you short.

TheOnlyPink · 08/05/2018 11:54

itsallgravybaby waves! I have about the same amount to lose as you. I think people with lots to lose have different challenges, so wanted to say hello and that I'm in the same boat as you! Smile

DDIJ did you finish the whole30? I tried it twice and found it extremely difficult. Not so much the actual eating, but I was constantly on edge wondering was i breaking the rules!

Just wondering about switching to coconut milk or almond milk as they are lower in carbs. I do drink a fair bit of tea, no sugar and just a splash of milk. Would it be worth going to a lower carb version? Tesco own brand coconut milk is 2g carbs per 100ml, regular milk is over 4g. Does it make much difference?

Seafour · 08/05/2018 12:12

I'm a returner to BC (waves to cherries) and looking forward to shifting the weight that two long stays in Hospital have caused.
I did BC last May and throughly enjoyed the food, support and weight loss, it is so difficult to maintain LC in Hospital even with family bringing in food for me.
I'm having a crisis of confidence today, having failed once I'm doubting my ability to succeed this time and shift two stone.

FlowinElla · 08/05/2018 12:33

Thanks, BIWI, very useful prep info! I have already started last Monday, and the weather has been perfect for BBQ meat & salads. I'm trying to stop eating LC desserts all the time (I am an experienced LC-er who completely lost the plot since January), so Bootcamp should help with the ban on sweeteners.

MrsBert could it be the wine? Rose is more carby than red, and alcohol is metabolised before any carbs/protein/fat so in effect, it was probably blocking your fat burning.

ilovecherries · 08/05/2018 12:51

SeaFour, I was just a thinking about you at the weekend, lovely to see you back. I think you did amazingly in pretty trying circumstances so i’m sure the eating will just slit back into place again. As for me, just kept on keeping on, and 5 stone of fat has pissed right off since last May. Now working on that last intransigent stone!

Eolian · 08/05/2018 13:17

My main worry is about what happens afterwards. Last time I did BC (ages ago) I lost loads of weight and felt great. But then I tried reintroducing a small amount of carbs, which became a larger amount of carbs, and so I put the weight back on (alarmingly quickly).

I'm reasonably confident I can get to the weight I want, but I feel like I want to have some idea of how much I'll need to continue to restrict carbs for the rest of my life in order to maintain that weight. I'm happy to avoid piles of pasta, rice and potatoes for ever tbh. I just wonder how infrequent I will need to make the occasional 'sweet treat' or couple of roast potatoes. Is it just a case of tentative trial and error?

Twoo · 08/05/2018 13:19

Thank you for starting this prep thread BIWI. I’ve really enjoyed this way of eating and I’m down about one and half stones since December 2017. Carried on losing, albeit slowly, since the last bc finished.

Currently at 10st 7.9.

The start of BC on May 14th is also the day I go to the Breast Clinic for examination due to thickening and a kind of lump. Most probably benign but it’s niggling at the back of my mind, so Monday May 14th can’t come quick enough.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 08/05/2018 14:20

Seafour - another one pleased to see you back! How are the critters?

StuntNun · 08/05/2018 15:07

OnlyPink I put unsweetened almond milk in tea and coffee because dairy doesn't agree with me but it is nice not to worry about the carbs adding up over the course of the day.

SeaFour don't be too hard on yourself. Now everybody "gets it" first time round and all of us have lapses at some point. Last time wasn't a failure, it was a practice run. This way of eating does work and it will work for you, just give it another chance. Can you identify where things went wrong last time?

Eolian I'm a long-term low carber (five years next month since my first Bootcamp BIWI !) and I have found that I can't reintroduce carbs with any frequency without triggering increased hunger, carb cravings, and a vicious cycle of disordered eating. What works better for me is an occasional treat if it's something really special. For example we were at the seaside yesterday and the whole family were having ice creams/lollies so I treated myself to an almond ice cream and thoroughly enjoyed it. But I didn't have lunch (because there wasn't anything low carb available) then I stayed very low carb for the rest of the day. DH and I used to have one cheat per week at weight maintenance which worked well at first but then I found I wanted the cheats less as time went on and my low carb eating habits were more firmly established.

3stonedown · 08/05/2018 16:51

Thanks for all the info BIWI.

stuntnun I know you say you can't really eat carbs frequently but do you find you still miss them or are you not bothered now?

I've started boot camp yesterday, (hope that's ok) as I'm on holiday for a week 25th and I know I'm going to struggle to stick to it that week. It's going well so far, I didn't feel the need to snack yesterday but just had a bit of total yog as I was feeling very peckish whilst cooking DDs dinner. If I keep busy and out of the house I think I'll find it a lot easier!

Eolian · 08/05/2018 17:53

Thanks StuntNun. In any case, I'd much rather have a rare but indulgent treat than try and wangle regular bread etc back into my diet.

I'm finding it bizarrely easy to resist full-on carby stuff even though it's in the house. The rest of the family had pizza last night after we'd done a long day's fell walking. I happily ate my tuna and avocado salad and wasn't even tempted. My potential downfall is the not-very-carby-but-not-quite-strictly-Bootcamp things - nuts, peanut butter, berries, too much milk etc. Because it feels like you're not quite cheating, but they add up!

MrsCoyote · 08/05/2018 17:57

Itsallgravybaby, what does it mean fat adapted, please?

MrsCoyote · 08/05/2018 18:03

Looking forward to bootcamp. I´ve been LCing for a month (and losing weight), but still have snacks or lets say irregular meals (maybe four to five a day) :-) ... sometimes I eat for wrong reasons (boredom, anxiety, being annoyed). I hope bootcamp could help with that. Is there anybody else with similar problem?

TheGherkin · 08/05/2018 18:21

Evening. I’m so happy to be back on the LCHF. It takes a lot of forward planning so I need to be strict with myself and shop and cook in advance.
My downfall last year when i tried this was alcohol. But now i’ve ditched my daily massive glass of red so that might make a difference.

BIWI · 08/05/2018 19:13

@MrsCoyote fat-adapted is what we're aiming to achieve! Essentially that means that by depriving your body of as many carbs, you encourage it to switch to burning fat for fuel.

It takes a while to establish it, although I can't say specifically how long it will take, as everyone is different. However, this is the thinking behind the initial strict two weeks, that you're 'forcing' your body to do this.

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ThreadPolice · 08/05/2018 19:47

Ah thank you- re the pregnancy I have read some info online but there were lots of conflicting opinions.
I think I’ll stick to bootcamp light, I can’t imagine how eating loads of fresh veg, eggs and meat etc can be that bad. What I may add in is legumes etc and that way I can totally avoid trigger foods like rice, potatoes, bread etc.

BlackMozart · 08/05/2018 20:39

I will definitely be back in bootcamp. I am feeling more positive and have 3 weeks between 14 May and my 25th wedding anniversary so intention is to be strict bootcamp (no dark chocolate, no wine, no nuts, plenty of water) for 3 weeks and see how I’m doing then.

Seafour · 08/05/2018 22:01

Stuntnun it all went wrong by being admitted to hospital repeatedly, almost dying kinda distracted me somewhat and I then had medics convinced that my "bizarre" eating habits were impacting on my health. I reached a point where I stopped caring but I'm in a better place now. My health issues won't ever piss off but the fat can, I just feel that I should have been able to convince the people caring for me that I wasn't harming myself by sticking to LCHF eating.

Timeihadanamechange hi, it's good to be back in the fold critters are gorgeous especially Lola

May Low Carb Bootcamp: the preparation thread
MrsBertBibby · 08/05/2018 23:01

Thanks stuntnun. No stiffness, but we shall see if it hops down tonight. A day of irreproachably low carbing today, so fingers crossed. Cheese, leaves avocado cheddar oil and lemon juice for lunch, and scrambled eggs, fried mushies and wilted spinach for tea.

Mandelinka · 08/05/2018 23:15

I did my first BC last May and have been sticking to LCHF on/off for most of the year. Sadly, gained nearly a stone lately, so would like to shift that.
Lovely to see some familiar names, waves to c4, cherries, stuntnun

Namaste bitches!

BIWI · 09/05/2018 08:10

@seafour

I then had medics convinced that my "bizarre" eating habits were impacting on my health. I reached a point where I stopped caring but I'm in a better place now. My health issues won't ever piss off but the fat can, I just feel that I should have been able to convince the people caring for me that I wasn't harming myself by sticking to LCHF eating

What were you eating (or trying to eat, given that you were in hospital!) that led to this reaction? It seems very extreme for a WOE which is increasingly recognised by medics as a beneficial one.

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TimeIhadaNameChange · 09/05/2018 09:20

Seafour - what a lovely picture of Lola! She certainly seems to be having fun there! Is she and your rabbit (whose name escapes me, unless it's Jasper???) still getting on ok?

StuntNun · 09/05/2018 10:54

3stonedown I don't miss most carbs at all anymore. I could happily live the rest of my life without eating bread, pasta or pizza ever again. The only thing I miss about carby food is the social aspects: coffee and a bun; an ice cream at a family day out on the beach; a piece of birthday cake. And at maintenance I can still have these things if I want or not if I don't feel like it. My rule of thumb is that it has to be "worth the carbs". A Krispy Kreme doughnut is definitely not worth the carbs, and the way I know I'll feel the next day. A dessert of panna cotta at my favourite restaurant is worth the carbs.

Seafour so it sounds like what went wrong last time was external circumstances that you had limited control over. IIRC you were successfully losing weight before that point so you know that Bootcamp will work for you again this time.

Last Bootcamp we had some success stories at the beginning by way of motivation so I thought I would add mine. I started my very first Bootcamp back in June 2013 at the highest weight I had ever been. I lost 30 lb by November that year to reach a healthy weight and a few more pounds very slowly over the next year. I have maintained a normal BMI since then. I had a low carb pregnancy in 2014-5 and easily lost the baby weight again afterwards.

Who else has a success story to share?

Scabbersley · 09/05/2018 11:03

I want to get back to how I felt after 4 or 5 weeks on Bootcamp.

I put on loads of weight over my holiday and I just haven't been able to shake carbs since then.

Looking forward to cracking on.

Can I add some advice? please please be careful eating pork scratchings!! I was addicted to them and managed to crack two back teeth which ended up costing over £1k to fix as well as causing a massive abscess which spread to my jawbone (that was the beginning of my Carby Twatdom actually as I was so ill I just ate anything I was given, got back into sugar and that was that)

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