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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

May Low Carb Bootcamp: the preparation thread

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BIWI · 07/05/2018 15:02

The next Bootcamp starts on Monday 14 May.

In advance of this, here are some things to start to think about.

THE RULES

First, make sure you know the rules! I'll put those in a separate post, but it's a good idea to print them out, so that you have them to hand for each reference.

You do need to follow the rules to the letter. Low carbing isn't a very forgiving WOE. It's not like calorie counting, where one 'bad' day can be overcome by a 'good' day the next. And it's especially important in the first two weeks because we're ensuring that we switch our bodies away from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat.

After the first two weeks there is the option to move onto a slightly more relaxed approach, Bootcamp Light. It's entirely up to you whether or not you do this. But it's critical that you are strict in the first two weeks.

PLANNING AHEAD

Do what you can to get rid of as many of the carby things in your fridge/freezer/cupboards - especially things that you know are likely to tempt you.

Start planning your week in terms of meals and food. Make sure you have plenty of low carb ingredients available. Meal planning may be a bit of a chore, but in the early stages of low carbing, especially if it's a new WOE (way of eating) for you, it's vital.

In the initial few days, you may also like to have things available to snack on. Within a week or so of low carbing, you should find that you're not hungry at all between meals, so you won't need to snack, but while you're adjusting, it's good to have something you know you can grab.

Good low carb snacks:

hard boiled eggs (always a good idea to keep a few in the fridge)
cooked low carb sausages (The Black Farmer is a good brand, but all the supermarkets premium sausages tend to be lower carb. Avoid ones with extra ingredients, and check the back of the packet to see how many carbs they contain. As an example, Sainsbury's So Organic pork sausages are only 0.9g carbs per 100g, The Black Farmer ones are 1.0g carbs. Avoid like the plague 'ordinary' sausages, as they are very carby - Richmond Thick Pork sausages are 16g carbs per 100g!
olives
cheese
cucumber/celery

If you're at work but have a canteen, check out what they're offering that is low carb. If they have a salad bar that's usually an OK option, but make sure that you're getting plenty of fat with your salad, and not just adding low fat dressings. You may need to take your own lunch with you if their menu is - as is highly likely - heavily focused around carbs. And if they do a 'healthy' option beware! This is going to be low fat, which is not what we're doing here.

If your job means you're out and about a lot, this is hard and something you'll have to prepare carefully for. On-the-go food options are always very carby - sandwiches, crisps, chocolate bars. Even if presented as 'healthy', like cereal bars or Graze boxes, these will invariably be too high in carbs as well, because there's often a lot of sugar as well as higher carb ingredients like nuts and seeds.

M&S do some good things - individually wrapped pieces of cheese, they also do pork crackling strips and rounds, which are a good standby. Most of their salads have pasta or rice or noodles as a basis, but there are one two that don't - and along with some cooked meats or fish you can usually put together a reasonable low carb meal.

READ UP ON LOW CARBING

The more you know about it, and the science behind it, the more likely you are to be able to stick to it.

You'll find that a lot of people around you will dismiss low carbing as a fad. People will tell you that eating so much fat is bad for you - despite the fact that this simply isn't true.

But it can be very undermining when people do this to you, and you may find your resolve wavering.

When I post the first thread next Monday there will be a link to the spreadsheet where we all enter our weight. On the tabs on the spreadsheet you'll find links to all kinds of different resources that will help you.

But in the meantime, if you want to do some reading, have a look at The Diet Doctor's website.

Escape the Diet Trap by Dr John Briffa is also a book that's really worth getting hold of - it's very easy to read and explains low carbing really well.

LEARN TO LOVE FAT!

Olive oil, butter, cream, cheese. What's not to love?!

But you'll find it hard, if you've always been told that fat is bad, to fully embrace it. But it's essential. A low carb diet is a high fat one - which is often why it's abbreviated to LCHF.

Fat helps to keep you full. It's also good for you (apart from transfats). Importantly, it makes things taste lovely!

CONSIDER HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MONITOR YOUR WEIGHT

We have a spreadsheet to enter our weight every week, but this is by no means compulsory. There are a couple of other ways to monitor your progress - first, take your measurements, and repeat these each week. Second, take an item of clothing which its currently too tight, and try that on each week.

If you do decide to weigh, then weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked, after you've been to the loo.

It's up to you whether you weigh weekly or daily. Some people find that weighing daily keeps them focused on what they're doing - others find it too hard, as natural daily fluctuations aren't always helpful!

DO YOU NEED TO SEE YOUR GP?

If you have a medical condition, particularly diabetes or high or low blood pressure, you should talk to your doctor or nurse about low carbing. Low carbing will reduce high blood pressure, and help improve your blood sugar levels, such that the level of medication you're taking may become inappropriate.

If you're in any way worried about a medical condition or medication that you have, and how this might interact with low carbing, then please take medical advice. I am not a GP or medically trained in any way. I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist, either. The advice given on Bootcamp is based on my own experiences, and the (considerable) reading that I have done/continue to do.

GET A JOURNAL TO KEEP A RECORD OF YOUR DAILY MENU

Writing down what you've eaten and drunk is incredibly useful, and can help to keep you focused. If, for any reason, you aren't seeing success one week, going back to what you've been eating and drinking can help you identify any possible issues.

It also helps to keep you honest with yourself! If you know you have to write it down, it can stop you cheating.

READ AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHAT THREADS

The help, support and general camaraderie on the chat threads is the most valuable thing about Bootcamp.

Please don't just jump on the thread to post your own progress or menus, but take the time to read what other people have written

The threads move very quickly - especially in the first couple of weeks - so make sure you bookmark them so you don't lose your place. But also take the time to help others out with any questions or issues that they have.

And if you have a question, please make sure you read the thread to see if anyone else has asked that before you. It's very, very wearing being asked to explain something that's already been talked about.

READ THE BOOTCAMP RECIPE THREADS

There are several of these, all stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic. There are some fabulous recipes on those threads, and so you should have absolutely no excuse not to eat lovely food. And please feel free to add to them!

A FINAL REMINDER - THE 'BLACKLIST'

These are foods that you shouldn't be eating at all on Bootcamp:

pasta/couscous/polenta/noodles
rice
flour/cornflour (so be careful of things that come in sauces, as they are usually thickened with flour or cornflour, and absolutely nothing that's in batter of any kind)
cakes/biscuits/muffins/bagels/doughnuts (should be obvious, but just in case ...)
legumes/pulses/grains
potatoes/sweet potatoes/sweetcorn/peas (these are the carbiest veg; on the spreadsheet you'll also find a list of carb counts for veg)
sugar/honey/syrup/chocolate
balsamic vinegar (wine vinegar/ordinary vinegars are fine, at around 0.5g/0.6g carbs per 100ml, but balsamic is very high in carbs at around 22g carbs per 100ml)

BEWARE THE BIG STICK!

I think that's all for now! I look forward to getting going next week

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TheOnlyPink · 09/05/2018 11:57

stuntnun thanks so much for the milk advice, will make the switch for bootcamp. And thanks for sharing your story, definitely helps with motivation of we know it's going to be worth it!

Starting my online shop for Saturday delivery. Feels very daunting to move away from my "usuals" list and adding new things! Although I just realised goats cheese and brie are low carb and I'm thrilled. I adore them but rarely had them as they weren't the low fat bullshit.

ThreadPolice · 09/05/2018 12:02

Stuntnun Thanks for the advice, I am taking a pregnancy vitamin anyway as I worry about folic acid.
I know lots of ladies who did low carb for gestational diabetes and the only difference I suppose is that they keep their carbs higher than needed for ketosis. So I will go along that sort of route (although they seemed to have a lot of artificial sweeteners which I don't like or want).

Seafour · 09/05/2018 12:04

BIWI it was more a case of what I wasn't eating, it's impossible to eat LCHF from a Hospital menu. Breakfast is toast or cereal at a push yogurt which is completely synthetic and full of sugar, main meal options for me were ham or chicken salad. I have a good relationship with HDU where I'm cared for and they do allow me to keep food in the fridge but there were constant problems with cleaning staff throwing my food away because it was on it's best before date or had been open for more than 24hrs. A new catering manager also refused to have Home made food in the fridge because there was no official date on it.
It just became too much to deal with in the end.
My consultant is very supportive of my woe but the nurses aren't always as easily educated and idiotic h&s rules implemented by staff who don't work for the nhs are completely outside my control.
At the end of the day it's battle enough staying well and sometimes it's easier to pick my battles and concede defeat where I can't win.

ilovecherries · 09/05/2018 12:55

Stuntnun said Who else has a success story to share?

My story is probably getting very boring to everyone else, but here goesGrin

I started to put weight on in my late 20s, partly or initially due to PCOS and infertility treatment. I was 12 stone by 30, 13 stone by 40, 14.5 stone by 50 and fit my 59th birthday at 16 stone 3 lbs. In my late 40s I had a total thyroidectomy, menopause, and an accident that put me in and out of a wheelchair for the next 10 years. On 21st May last year the LCHF bootcamp popped up in the side bar. It started the next day. I'd had a miserable history of low fat/low cal diets, which had left me constantly hungry, reliant solely on will power to get through, and which only seemed to slow my actual rate of gain for a while, never actually brought about significant loss. I read the rules, thought it might be doable, and decided to commit for ten weeks. I made two promises to myself.

  1. to follow the rules to the letter for 10 weeks - no tweaking, no exceptions, no being a special snowflake
  2. to accept that if I didn't lose 10lbs in 10 weeks I would walk away, and never diet again, and somehow find a way to make peace with my weight.

In those first 10 weeks I lost 21 lbs. In July I fit comfortably into a areoplane seat. By mid August I was no longer obese. By my 60th birthday early this year I had a normal BMI for the first time in 30+ years. My dress size has gone from 22/24 to 12. I've lost 8 inches from my underbust, and 15 from my waist, my shoe I've has gone from 8.5 to 7. I'd like to lose another stone to put me nearer the middle of the healthy BMI and also to lose some more inches from my waist, as it's still more than half my height.

I've stayed low carb through two holidays, a graduation, several big birthdays, a big wedding anniversary, Christmas, Easter etc etc. I feel better than I have for 30 years. I had just about every unpleasant side effect going, plus some I hadn't even heard of. I've also had amazing positive side effects.Smile I look better, I feel at least 20 years younger, I run three time a week, I weight train. For my 60th birthday I got a sports watch and 12 sessions with a PT. I have to firmly stop myself from evangelising on the WW and SW threads Grin. I believe bootcamp and LCHF saved my life - it has certainly transformed it.

BIWI · 09/05/2018 14:27
Flowers never tire of hearing your story @ilovecherries
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BrassicaBabe · 09/05/2018 14:28

I'm the slimmest I've ever been thanks to BC.

I was "maintaining" my weight between 10.10 and 11.5 thanks to vlcd and juicing. I was super strict Monday to Thursday then "all bets were off" Friday to Sunday.

My previous Low cal best was 10.8

I started BC in September last year, a week or so before the formal MN and weighed 11.3.

I took up rowing in October on a whim. And loved it so much I realised I needed to sort my fitness level out so started C25k in December. I'm regularly running 5k about twice a week now and rowing twice a week too. I look fab in exercise leggings now Grin

I think my first BC finished mid Dec by which time I was 10.6. At the end of the January BC I've reached 9.11!

I feel healthier than ever. I find LCHF easy to work with and stick to. Now I'm at maintenance I have a cheat meal about once a month (not the 3 days per week it used to be). Yes when I cheat I out on about 4lbs of something. But that's gone by the end of the week.

I'm a bit nervous about my holiday coming up in a few weeks. Im going to have some "planned indulgence" during the week. But I'm not going to eat the family pack of crisps like I used to. I know I'll pile a bit on but also confident I can shift that when I get back home and back to eating "normally" Smile

StuntNun · 09/05/2018 14:56

Brilliant success story Cherries and you have done amazingly.

eggncress · 09/05/2018 15:06

Planning to start on Monday ... have done it for 3 weeks on my own before but this should give me some motivation to keep going.I blame Xmas for last failure !

Scabbersley · 09/05/2018 15:17

Love all the positive stories brassica and cherries

Seafour · 09/05/2018 15:34

Fantastic success stories, Cherries you're my lchf hero

Eolian · 09/05/2018 15:53

Very impressive success stories! Cherries that's a fantastic inspiration.

Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 16:55

I always look at the LC threads and I 'know' cherries from the Hush thread (waves).
I did really well on both the 5:2 and *00 blod sugar diet , but it comes back on .( and is at the moment.. and id really love to lose a stone before the third week of June! ) .

I like LC and hardly ever eat bread nowadays and the only sugar is in condiments and fruit as i dont like sweet stuff.. But the main problem I have with LC ( which no one has mentioned here ) is really, really terrible constipation after a few days which just doesn't seem to get better. The most I've managed on LC has been 2 weeks and then I am in agony . I've tried flax seeds upping the water etc etc and it doesn't help unless i eat much more veg and then its just not LC enough for me to lose weight ..

Do you bootcampers have a magic solution that I havent tried? i

3stonedown · 09/05/2018 16:57

Loved reading the inspiration stories, I find looking at before and after pics on pinterest help motivate me to stay on track.

Glad to hear stuntnun doesn't even crave the carbs anymore. I've lost 3.5stone since Sept from lowering my carb intake (not done anything as strict as boot camp before this) but I'm still a massive sugar addict, swapping squash for water is hitting me harder than I thought!

TheOnlyPink · 09/05/2018 17:24

laska tbh I'm glad you brought this up! I've been wondering the same, it seems very low on fibre and I struggle in that department as it is!

Cherries and brassica, thank you so much for sharing, it's so inspiring!

DramaAlpaca · 09/05/2018 17:30

Thanks for sharing the inspiring success stories ladies.

Does anyone know if it's OK to do LCHF if you have high cholesterol?

I've just had some blood test results back from the GP showing that my cholesterol level is too high, and I'm wondering if eating loads of fat is going to make it worse or if it's safe.

Thanks in advance.

RaininSummer · 09/05/2018 17:36

hi all - looking forward to tightening up the diet as i have been slipping a lot lately on the basis of 'having toast for breakfast can't hurt' - it can and did, quite a bit. I dont seem able to add much carbiness back to the diet without getting crazy cravings, raging hunger and then weight gain but i know LFHC works when done right.

BIWI · 09/05/2018 18:19

If you're getting your carbs from veg and salad - which is what you should be doing - as opposed to milk in tea/coffee, or snacking on chocolate then you should be getting enough fibre.

Along with the high fat and water consumption, there should be no reason why you suffer from constipation as seriously as that.

However, if you are, things to consider are:

strong coffee
high strength vitamin C tablets
magnesium supplements

and if all else fails try Haribo sugar-free Gummi Bears

Grin
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MightyMucks · 09/05/2018 18:28

Hang on, we can’t have milk? Also, how long does it last?

BIWI · 09/05/2018 19:02

You can have milk, but only in moderation. If you're drinking several cups of tea/coffee a day, you'll quickly be adding a lot of carbs to you day. That's why it's better to moderate this.

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MrsBertBibby · 09/05/2018 19:30

I certainly feel bound up down there. I am doing my best at water swigging, and eating bloody crates of greens, so I reckon it's the mountains of eggs to blame. I have some sugar free Laxido I have taken a couple of times, but it doesn't seem to resolve it fully.

BIWI · 09/05/2018 19:48

It's a myth that eggs cause constipation! Make sure you're also really eating plenty of fat

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MrsBertBibby · 09/05/2018 19:56

They've always messed me about though. Intolerant as a kid. I'm having heaps of fat! Cheese all over, oil on salads, butter for cooking.

Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 20:03

BIWI sorry.. know I am not in the bootcamp ,but yes I drink strong coffee , dont drink milk at all, and do eat lots of veg.. However I am 'slow' anyway
Maybe its just my metabolism.. which i reckon Ive messed up through years of dieting..

I will be doing LC again I think but not bootcamp , I only have 6 weeks to holiday .. However ill use you all for inspiration if I may

Laska5772 · 09/05/2018 20:05

Out of interest interest why would Vit C and Magnesium make a difference ?

ilovecherries · 09/05/2018 21:04

Laska! :) Fancy seeing you here :). I don't have a constipation problem, but what I did find was my IBS improved by about 90%. So rather than having the politely called 'intestinal hurry' all morning every morning, I started to do poos to be proud of Grin. But probably only every second day. I can't believe what I share sometimes. GrinBlush. I eat a variety of veg at least twice a day though (usually do 16:8). But every meal starts with a shit load (no pun intended!) of green veg used as a Fat Transportation Device, topped with a moderate protein. I'm not super keen of very fatty meat after the initial novelty wore off (although chicken skin...mmm...) but I eat masses of olive oil.

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