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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

May Low Carb Bootcamp: the preparation thread

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BIWI · 07/05/2018 15:02

The next Bootcamp starts on Monday 14 May.

In advance of this, here are some things to start to think about.

THE RULES

First, make sure you know the rules! I'll put those in a separate post, but it's a good idea to print them out, so that you have them to hand for each reference.

You do need to follow the rules to the letter. Low carbing isn't a very forgiving WOE. It's not like calorie counting, where one 'bad' day can be overcome by a 'good' day the next. And it's especially important in the first two weeks because we're ensuring that we switch our bodies away from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat.

After the first two weeks there is the option to move onto a slightly more relaxed approach, Bootcamp Light. It's entirely up to you whether or not you do this. But it's critical that you are strict in the first two weeks.

PLANNING AHEAD

Do what you can to get rid of as many of the carby things in your fridge/freezer/cupboards - especially things that you know are likely to tempt you.

Start planning your week in terms of meals and food. Make sure you have plenty of low carb ingredients available. Meal planning may be a bit of a chore, but in the early stages of low carbing, especially if it's a new WOE (way of eating) for you, it's vital.

In the initial few days, you may also like to have things available to snack on. Within a week or so of low carbing, you should find that you're not hungry at all between meals, so you won't need to snack, but while you're adjusting, it's good to have something you know you can grab.

Good low carb snacks:

hard boiled eggs (always a good idea to keep a few in the fridge)
cooked low carb sausages (The Black Farmer is a good brand, but all the supermarkets premium sausages tend to be lower carb. Avoid ones with extra ingredients, and check the back of the packet to see how many carbs they contain. As an example, Sainsbury's So Organic pork sausages are only 0.9g carbs per 100g, The Black Farmer ones are 1.0g carbs. Avoid like the plague 'ordinary' sausages, as they are very carby - Richmond Thick Pork sausages are 16g carbs per 100g!
olives
cheese
cucumber/celery

If you're at work but have a canteen, check out what they're offering that is low carb. If they have a salad bar that's usually an OK option, but make sure that you're getting plenty of fat with your salad, and not just adding low fat dressings. You may need to take your own lunch with you if their menu is - as is highly likely - heavily focused around carbs. And if they do a 'healthy' option beware! This is going to be low fat, which is not what we're doing here.

If your job means you're out and about a lot, this is hard and something you'll have to prepare carefully for. On-the-go food options are always very carby - sandwiches, crisps, chocolate bars. Even if presented as 'healthy', like cereal bars or Graze boxes, these will invariably be too high in carbs as well, because there's often a lot of sugar as well as higher carb ingredients like nuts and seeds.

M&S do some good things - individually wrapped pieces of cheese, they also do pork crackling strips and rounds, which are a good standby. Most of their salads have pasta or rice or noodles as a basis, but there are one two that don't - and along with some cooked meats or fish you can usually put together a reasonable low carb meal.

READ UP ON LOW CARBING

The more you know about it, and the science behind it, the more likely you are to be able to stick to it.

You'll find that a lot of people around you will dismiss low carbing as a fad. People will tell you that eating so much fat is bad for you - despite the fact that this simply isn't true.

But it can be very undermining when people do this to you, and you may find your resolve wavering.

When I post the first thread next Monday there will be a link to the spreadsheet where we all enter our weight. On the tabs on the spreadsheet you'll find links to all kinds of different resources that will help you.

But in the meantime, if you want to do some reading, have a look at The Diet Doctor's website.

Escape the Diet Trap by Dr John Briffa is also a book that's really worth getting hold of - it's very easy to read and explains low carbing really well.

LEARN TO LOVE FAT!

Olive oil, butter, cream, cheese. What's not to love?!

But you'll find it hard, if you've always been told that fat is bad, to fully embrace it. But it's essential. A low carb diet is a high fat one - which is often why it's abbreviated to LCHF.

Fat helps to keep you full. It's also good for you (apart from transfats). Importantly, it makes things taste lovely!

CONSIDER HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MONITOR YOUR WEIGHT

We have a spreadsheet to enter our weight every week, but this is by no means compulsory. There are a couple of other ways to monitor your progress - first, take your measurements, and repeat these each week. Second, take an item of clothing which its currently too tight, and try that on each week.

If you do decide to weigh, then weigh yourself first thing in the morning, naked, after you've been to the loo.

It's up to you whether you weigh weekly or daily. Some people find that weighing daily keeps them focused on what they're doing - others find it too hard, as natural daily fluctuations aren't always helpful!

DO YOU NEED TO SEE YOUR GP?

If you have a medical condition, particularly diabetes or high or low blood pressure, you should talk to your doctor or nurse about low carbing. Low carbing will reduce high blood pressure, and help improve your blood sugar levels, such that the level of medication you're taking may become inappropriate.

If you're in any way worried about a medical condition or medication that you have, and how this might interact with low carbing, then please take medical advice. I am not a GP or medically trained in any way. I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist, either. The advice given on Bootcamp is based on my own experiences, and the (considerable) reading that I have done/continue to do.

GET A JOURNAL TO KEEP A RECORD OF YOUR DAILY MENU

Writing down what you've eaten and drunk is incredibly useful, and can help to keep you focused. If, for any reason, you aren't seeing success one week, going back to what you've been eating and drinking can help you identify any possible issues.

It also helps to keep you honest with yourself! If you know you have to write it down, it can stop you cheating.

READ AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHAT THREADS

The help, support and general camaraderie on the chat threads is the most valuable thing about Bootcamp.

Please don't just jump on the thread to post your own progress or menus, but take the time to read what other people have written

The threads move very quickly - especially in the first couple of weeks - so make sure you bookmark them so you don't lose your place. But also take the time to help others out with any questions or issues that they have.

And if you have a question, please make sure you read the thread to see if anyone else has asked that before you. It's very, very wearing being asked to explain something that's already been talked about.

READ THE BOOTCAMP RECIPE THREADS

There are several of these, all stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic. There are some fabulous recipes on those threads, and so you should have absolutely no excuse not to eat lovely food. And please feel free to add to them!

A FINAL REMINDER - THE 'BLACKLIST'

These are foods that you shouldn't be eating at all on Bootcamp:

pasta/couscous/polenta/noodles
rice
flour/cornflour (so be careful of things that come in sauces, as they are usually thickened with flour or cornflour, and absolutely nothing that's in batter of any kind)
cakes/biscuits/muffins/bagels/doughnuts (should be obvious, but just in case ...)
legumes/pulses/grains
potatoes/sweet potatoes/sweetcorn/peas (these are the carbiest veg; on the spreadsheet you'll also find a list of carb counts for veg)
sugar/honey/syrup/chocolate
balsamic vinegar (wine vinegar/ordinary vinegars are fine, at around 0.5g/0.6g carbs per 100ml, but balsamic is very high in carbs at around 22g carbs per 100ml)

BEWARE THE BIG STICK!

I think that's all for now! I look forward to getting going next week

OP posts:
AnnaT45 · 13/05/2018 06:15

Hello, i would like to join please. I was going low carb and lost about 8lbs in three weeks but then went on holiday for two weeks and lost all control as the food was a lot of rice, noodles etc.So this is perfect timing for me.

I'm planning to have my last bread binge today!

BerylStreep · 13/05/2018 08:36

Anna if you know it's bad for you, why have a final bread binge at all?

50andgoingstrong · 13/05/2018 09:48

Ooh please can I join?

Do we start on Monday?
I've been doing my own wee mini boot camp since Easter. Lost 9lb so far 🙂

Question: do I have to give up 85% choc completely??

AnnaT45 · 13/05/2018 11:28

beryl I got home late last night from holiday and am very jet lagged so going to go easy on myself and start with everyone tomorrow. That says I won't be eating bread as have none after being away for 2.5 weeks!

Eolian · 13/05/2018 11:48

Can someone remind me how many grammes of carbs per 100 are generally allowed on Bootcamp? I know nuts aren't allowed, but I'm a massive peanut butter fan and have a delicious, oily, unsweetened pb which is 4.2g carbs. I tend to stir a heaped tsp into my Greek yoghurt for breakfast. Do I have to give it up for full Bootcamp?

ScienceNut · 13/05/2018 12:40

Hi I’m up for joining.

Have always used low carb for dropping weight and am 4.5 stone lighter than I was 6 yrs ago!

However life gets in the way and I give in and go back to chocolate and other sweet stuff. (I had lost 5.5 stone but have gone back up)

10 weeks takes me up to the end of summer term and at least 14 lb needs to go (still have 30lbs to get to a healthy bmi) but this is my goal for this bootcamp. Will get me back to a comfortable size 16 with sight of 14 in some shops.

This is my first go with mumsnet and am quiet excited at having people to chat and support along the way.

toomuchicecream · 13/05/2018 12:53

I'm here. Again. But this is the first bootcamp I'll start at a lower weight than I finished the last one :) At least 6 times over the past 5 years I've got down to this point and then got very stuck - just 1 or 2 pounds to get into the next stone down. In fact, during the last bootcampe the scales snuck under briefly and went back up. So although I've got a ridiculous amount to lose, I'll be happy with a pound a week as that will get me safely below my nemesis point. I've convinced myself that once I break through, the next 20 pounds are going to fall off, but I fear that may be wishful thinking.... Good luck everyone!

BIWI · 13/05/2018 13:25

@50andgoingstrong

Question: do I have to give up 85% choc completely??

In the first two weeks of Bootcamp I'm afraid you do! And then in the next 8 weeks it should be only in moderation

@Eolian

Can someone remind me how many grammes of carbs per 100 are generally allowed on Bootcamp? I know nuts aren't allowed, but I'm a massive peanut butter fan and have a delicious, oily, unsweetened pb which is 4.2g carbs. I tend to stir a heaped tsp into my Greek yoghurt for breakfast. Do I have to give it up for full Bootcamp?

First, there is no specific amount of carbs that we're aiming for - because everyone tolerates carbs differently. As long as you follow Bootcamp rules in terms of getting your carbs mainly from lower carb veg and salad (generally around or under 4g carbs per 100g) you will be fine. When we link to the spreadsheet tomorrow morning you'll see the list of veg carb counts which will help you.

Second, I'm afraid PB isn't allowed in the first two weeks, because we don't allow any nuts/seeds in this time. I, too, am a massive fan of PB in yoghurt, but I'm afraid you'll have to go without for the first two weeks

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NorthernKnickers · 13/05/2018 13:26

Looking forward to tomorrow. Slightly terrified of posting my truly horrendous weight for the world to see...however I'm going to do it! My new 'super whizzy Bluetooth scales' don't lie (unfortunately!) and I was shocked when I stood on them on Wednesday when they arrived 😳😫😢 I'm about a stone heavier than I thought I was...and what I 'thought' I was was already awful!

Ah well...the only 'weigh' is down 😉😊

Lonesurvivor · 13/05/2018 13:41

Eolian you just don't have nuts the first two weeks I think. The first two weeks are strictest to get into ketosis.

Hi all, I've enjoyed reading all the success stories and hints and tips it's very motivating.
I did TBSD for a few weeks in March/April and lost 20lb. I've a lot of weigh to lose.
I was calorie counting for a few weeks as I wasn't a fan of low carb. Two weeks ago after having 4/5 on again I decided to low carb again. I had a bad week with carb flu and really wasn't enjoying the plan or picturing been able to do it for long but in the interest of much needed weight loss was sticking with it.
I posted on different threads and thanks to BIWI embraced the high fat part and haven't looked back this week. I can't believe the difference including more fat has made to the way my food tastes and how I'm feeling so satisfied, my mood is better and I'm seeing results.
To date I've lost 23.5 pounds.

I'll be joining boot camp two weeks in and I'm very glad of that because it took some time for me to accept/embrace all the rules and stop finding reasons to tweak them to suit myself which of course won't work and would've wrecked everyone else's head in the process.
So from my short time on this my advice to other newbies is follow the plan, not only will it work but it will be much much easier to follow if you do it the right way rather than your way.

Lonesurvivor · 13/05/2018 13:46

NorthernKnickers don't worry about revealing your number, it's your starting point that's all. I've a feeling I may be the highest on the spread sheet, if I'm not I will be one of the higher and that's with a significant amount gone!
I refuse to let that number bother me anymore, it's on its way out and we should be proud of that.

Eolian · 13/05/2018 14:01

I , too, am a massive fan of PB in yoghurt, but I'm afraid you'll have to go without for the first two weeks

Ah I can manage two weeks. Glad to hear I'm not the only pb yoghurt fan. Anyone else I mention the combo to thinks I am deeply weird.

Rshard · 13/05/2018 14:25

Another one looking forward to boot camp tomorrow.

BIWI · 13/05/2018 14:31

Weird?! Not at all!

@Lonesurvivor - that was a really good post! And so true about not fighting against it but embracing it.

@NorthernKnickers - you don't have to put your actual weight in, if you don't want to.

You can index it - i.e. your starting weight is 100 and then you deduct one for ever pound that you lose.

Or you don't have to go on the spreadsheet at all if you don't want to.

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NorthernKnickers · 13/05/2018 14:32

Thank you @Lonesurvivor xx

BIWI · 13/05/2018 14:37

In advance of tomorrow, here's some info that might help you as well - a list of veg carb counts. Apologies for the lack of formatting, but that's one of the many quirks of MN!

This shows how many grams of carbs per 100g of each veg.

Mushrooms 0.4
Watercress 0.4
Spinach 0.8
Celery 0.9
Broccoli 1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber 1.5
Lettuce 1.7
Courgettes 1.8
Avocado flesh 1.9
Cauliflower 1.9
Radish 1.9
Turnip 2
Pumpkin 2.2
Celeriac 2.3
Runner beans 2.3
Swede 2.3
Bean sprouts 2.5
Green pepper 2.6
Baby sweetcorn 2.7
Aubergine 2.8
Leeks 2.9
Okra 3
Tomato 3.1
Mangetout 3.3
Shallots 3.3
Brussels sprouts 3.5
French beans 4.7
Cabbage 5
Yellow pepper 5.3
Carrots 6
Orange/red pepper 6.4
Ginger (peeled) 7.2
Butternut squash 7.5
Onions 7.9

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NorthernKnickers · 13/05/2018 14:39

@BIWI I'm going to be totally honest...and own my weight! It's going to be the thing that spurs me on. I had a hysterectomy two years ago following a tumour. It saved my life of course, but I have since put on 4 stone. I really wasn't in a place, emotionally or physically, to lose it before this year, but now am 😊

BlackMozart · 13/05/2018 14:55

So positive everybody. I am determined to stick to the rules for the first two weeks which I have never properly done before and see what result I get doing that. Feeling positive. Roast chicken today so good leftovers for tomorrow and plenty of veg, cheese and eggs in. I am going to have bacon with my eggs for breakfast and low carb sausage for the first few days to stave off any possible hunger issues and will cut back after that as I know processed meat isn’t to be recommended every day. However I’m giving up the things I find hardest to (chocolate, wine, nuts) so this is my compromise. Crosses fingers I won’t be in trouble...

BlackMozart · 13/05/2018 14:57

Thanks for the list BIWI that is really helpful.

PuddingAndHotMilk · 13/05/2018 15:18

I can't wait to get started tomorrow. I ran 10K this am after being broadly LCHF for the last couple of weeks and I didn't get the heavy legs at 6-8k that I'm used to. I then ruined it by letting DH persuade me to have a slice of pizza. Strictness of strictville from tomorrow - nuts will be my tricky nemesis...
good luck everyone

Eolian · 13/05/2018 15:57

I've just set an alarm on my phone to remind me every two hours to drink more water! I know it's really important on BC, and anyway it makes me look and feel better.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 13/05/2018 17:34

northern, that was what bumped me off course. I think it was this thread, but somewhere I posted yesterday just how good this WOE had been for me mentally and physically.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 13/05/2018 17:37

We're currently at 224 signed up on the spreadsheet [sock] - if tomorrow you find you're not on there, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T LOVE YOU. But it all gets a bit shaggy with the lists and copying and pasting, and different threads.

Just let me or @TimeIhadaNameChange know if you're not there, and we'll add you on. If you're on, and would rather not be, ditto.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 13/05/2018 17:37

erm, [ shock ] as in Shock clearly, not [sock]

BrassicaBabe · 13/05/2018 17:49

[sock] back at you Athel. Tomorrow's thread is going to move at the speed of light!!

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