Week 9 - Low Carb Bootcamp - the last fortnight is here

[BIWI]

Good morning all

I see from the end of last week's thread that some of us have been struggling with various demons.

We only have two weeks left, so time to gird your loins (however you do that!), and plough on.

Hopefully the snow has gone, or is disappearing rapidly, and that there's enough appropriate food in the shops. At least our problem is not being able to find what we want - I saw a very sad piece in the news yesterday about a dairy farmer, who was having to throw all his milk away, because the tanker couldn't get to his farm to collect it. So days' worth of money for him gone

Anyway, here's the lovely new thread, and with the fantastic Spreadsheet of Fabulousness.

Good luck this week. Stick with it and keep the focus.

lisba, sorry to hear your news but it sounds as though you’re already looking ahead. Take care

Lisba’

There will certainly be an interim thread - there always is!

BIWI will the interim thread be linked to this one? I will be staying with this woe for the foreseeable but I know I need the motivational threads too.

The interim thread will come into play after boot camp has ended twoo. So linked at the end of the week 10 thread.

Hope you don’t mind me replying there BIWI!?

Thank you R’, that’s reassuring !

Badlyparked of course the alkaline is excreted, the article talks about alkaline urine. What else would you think?! I mentioned it because it also says alkaline foods can help with constipation which a pp was suffering from terrible constipation.

@BIWI, if you're around, would you have any advice for me? On a 7-8 week stall (ignoring the cat inspired breakdown for 5 days).

I'm sure it's not the food aspect - I only eat fatty meat/fish, and green/or leafy veg, cooked with olive oil or butter, and have binned alcohol, dairy, eggs which were bothering my guts. I don't have breakfast, eat a fairly small lunch (due to appetite) around midday, and a plentiful dinner at about 6'ish. I get at least 2.5l of water a day in, and do some regular bodyweight exercises at home - maybe 10 mins a day max.

I'm not sure what else to try - or even if I need to try. But it seems like a long time stalling, and I'd hate it to be because I'm missing something obvious.

(Back off to vets for a bit, but if you can spot something, please help!)

BIWI thanks for the new thread.

Lisba sorry to hear your news.

I'm back up to 93.2kg this week, having been at 92kg last Sunday. It feels a bit like I have been wavering around this point for ages, although I know the bloody Lidl roll has probably contributed, along with my Friday night twattery. In a way I know it shouldn't matter that much, because this is my long-term way of eating now (always should have been, can't believe I ever lapsed) and I know I will get there in the end. I've got just under 3 weeks before skiing, and I want to shift some more before then, if only to save my poor knees.

Food for today:

B: bacon, sausage & poached egg. Coffee with AM&C.
L: crunchy salad in mayo (radish, celery, spring onion, romaine) with sliced poached chicken.
S: another coffee and some macadamias
D: Likely to be rib-eye steak with celeriac dauphinoise and some form of green veg with butter

Only 2 weeks left of bootcamp proper - koko!!

Athelstane you sound like you are doing everything right. You have lost 6lbs this bootcamp, albeit it was in the first week and you have maintained since.

What is your height / BMI / frame size? Are your expectations realistic? What are you aiming for?

It could be that your body has reached the weight it thinks you should be. If you are enjoying the woe, there is no harm in KOKO and seeing if there is movement later on.

Believe it or not Rshard there is a bacon-only diet called The Bacon Experiment.

Zxy so how is it meant to help then?
I'm not attacking you personally, pseudoscience like this makes my teeth itch.

lisba I'm so sorry to hear about your marriage. if it helps I too have got out of a long bad marriage not too long ago. There are plenty of us out there and even when the decision is our own, it's still a great loss and trauma. I put on so much weight in the immediate grieving period and that is when I found bootcamp. it's been a life saver in more ways than one.

I've PMed you.

Beryl, I've lost 11 since the week before BC, so even whingier than that!

I'm 5'5", very small framed (tiny hands and feet, and even so my hand can easily overlap around my wrist), my BMI is 22, and I think my expectations are realistic: I hope to get back to 8st 7lbs, since that was my base weight for years until about a couple of years ago. I was a size 8/10 at that weight, and still had significant wobble, so that's not a wiry/extreme weight for me to be at.

I'm going to KOKO since I don't see any alternative, but I am very wistful about fitting back into all my lovely clothes, and getting rid of the droopy bits.

Anybody else lost the pork / beef recipe thread?
It isn’t coming up for me in the list of low carb boot camp threads at all and I look at it daily as it’s so amazing...

Athel - do you run? If you don’t, I strongly recommend starting the C25K plan. I started in November and it has made a huge difference to my wobbly bits. I’m like you, 5’4” with a very small frame, currently sitting at just under eight and a half stone. Last time I dieted I still had a large, wobbly tum. This time, with the running, I can see it going. I honestly believe thst' for the first time in my life, I’ll have a flat tum. If I keep up the running.

How’s your cat doing? Strokes and purrs for him from this house!

Really stuntnun?! The subject of the article had done a Keto diet and looked great. What stood out was the incredulous slant the paper took with the woe. It shows again how entrenched we’ve become in low fat. The paper is a complete rag also.

Did some inner thigh exercises tonight, sumo squats and lateral leg swings. Hopefully will be able walk tomorrow

Time, are you trying to make me cry? I HATE running, ever since those horrendous cross-country running sessions at school, which included going down a few public lanes running in your big, flannelly, green knickers .

I did try once again, in my mid-twenties, as a friend swore blind he hit some sort of endorphin rush after about 15 minutes. I never got past about 6 minutes . Isn't there some sort of running equivalent exercise that doesn't involve running?

And thank for you the strokes and purrs! He's sulking upstairs now, as I've betrayed his trust by dragging him back to the vet for another blood test. He was on the mend, albeit slowly, but had a real setback over the weekend with prolonged D&V (just like me , so has lost another 400g he can't really afford to lose. His poor knobbly spine , however, he's been much more interested in food and water today, so fingers crossed.

Athel - don’t cry! If you’d asked me my thoughts about running in October I’d have said the same as you. At school I was the fat, asthmatic one bringing up the rear. Hated cross country! Yet C25K is amazing! No idea how it does it, but it works. I can now say, in all honesty, that I LOVE running!!!!!!!!!

I do it on a treadmill, in a small gym where I’m the only person there. I have loads of respect for people like @BrassicaBabe who runs outside. Please try week 1 at least. You’ll only run for a few minutes as it’s mostly walking so nothing to feel nervous. And honestly, if I can do it with my asthmatic lungs so can you!

Will shut up now!!!!!

Glad your puss is feeling a bit better now. Tell him from me to do lots of munching! Am sure he’ll forgive you eventually. In a year or two, maybe!

hmmm, I will at least, Time, promise to look up C25K and see what it's about. No gym around here, but plenty of outside.

To go from hate to love means it must be mentally satisfying, is it? Rather than just forcing yourself to do it because it's good for you?

Athel I don't want to get evangelical on your arse but I agree with Time re C25k. I hated running. But I ran 5k in 36mins today and run 3 times a week. It's definitely helped shift the stubborn lbs and most certainly changed my shape. (I'd let you grope my thighs if you were here!) I started c25k (bbc app with voice of jo Whiley) on 1st December and huffed and puffed through the first minute run. I run outside on the roads. It's quick cheap and easy. Go'won (father ted style)

I lost over a stone in the Oct boot camp then fell off the wagon on week 2 of this one. Weighed self today and only put 4lbs back on though so am totally back on it. Starting my own boot camp today but when is the next official one please?

Still here
Breakfast was bacon and egg
Lunch was salmon and flgv
Dinner left over roast beef with mushrooms in sour cream and buttered spinach

Snack was four bits of cheese as was starving when I left work

Had a ‘is this an actual diet?’ day

I think what I’ve learned this bc is that I really can’t cheat any more. I had managed the odd cheat when I had lots to use but now I’m nearly at goal it just doesn’t work. I haven’t lost anything since my initial whoosh but as pp have said I may as well koko as the time will pass anyway. I do see the other benefits too, skin tons better, clearer headed etc

Brassica, if it's so good it has people offering up their thighs voluntarily, how can I resist?

I've read some blurb on it, and think I need to find a suitable location - it's all up/down/up/down on the road here. Besides, there are so few people about that most of them driving past will recognise me and I'm not quite ready to be judged just yet! I'll make a public commitment here to start this week though not promising anything about continuing, mind and see how I get on.

Cardio exercise is probably the missing factor I've been stubbornly ignoring. I don't like it

Sing, no idea! But quite a few of us are continuing BC'ing after the last 2 weeks, and I for one am continuing on BC (heavy?) not lite, so there'll be a home thread for you.

Waves to Alma - yes, I definitely feel slinkier all round eating this way, even if the scales aren't moving for me just now.