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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 6 - Low Carb Bootcamp - we start the second half

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BIWI · 13/11/2017 07:43

Morning all Flowers

Here's the spreadsheet of fabulousness for you all

Many thanks to wombattoo and SayrraT for keeping the threads going while I was away.

Lots of people talking about how to deal with future events, especially Christmas, and this is something that's really important to think about. This is a tough time of year for low carbing. But it's also a tough time of year if you can't squeeze into your partywear - so you need to decide which is more important. Those roast potatoes or looking good Wink

Good luck everyone

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BlackMozart · 14/11/2017 08:13

cherrypi I also discovered kale with oil and salt this weekend, in my case fried. Yum.
In other news I have only lost 1/4lb which is depressing but maybe it was 4 meals including butternut squash that did it and not enough water yesterday. Looks like it might be TOTM as well, which I was really hoping had finally stopped but apparently not. ☹️
Feeling really grumpy about it all. I can cope with a 1lb a week loss but if it drops to much less when I am sticking to the principles it feels very frustrating. I know that as an VLCD survivor losing weight v fast is quite addictive but I am reminding myself that I will end up with saggy skin and I won’t be able to keep,it off if I go back to that way of dieting. Ho hum. Sorry for that little strop.

I am probably eating too much cheese (as a way of avoiding a piece of chocolate after dinner) which I think may be a false economy. A square of chocolate may have more carbs but far less calories than cheese so I am going to experiment with no cheese as dessert this week and one square of chocolate instead. And try and limit cheese to part of a meal not as snacks as well. So I am giving myself the chance to be bc lite this week not bc despite what I said earlier in the thread. Staying off
bacon and sausages though and focusing on drinking more water.

Thanks for listening. 😊

prettybird · 14/11/2017 08:16

Well done ilovecherries Flowers

Stay in the Zone! Halo

BlackMozart · 14/11/2017 08:19

One other thing. I was watching Nigella’s new show last night (love her and her books and she looks amazing) and she made a chocolate mousse with eggs, dark choc, fruity olive oil rather than butter and only 50 g of sugar. I am wondering what it would be like with no sugar so I might experiment at Christmas (not this week!!)

C4rollinandventing · 14/11/2017 08:20

Morning all, I have rtft but I'm too tired to answer in detail. I've low carbed at Christmas in a previous life and if I decide to allow myself a couple of carby treats it won't be wasted on roast potatoes, I may have a tiny bit of stuffing, roast parsnips and carrots as for the rest of the festivities there will be a mince pie made with sugar free mincemeat, a glass of egg nog and a cracker with butter and a chunk of Stilton.

I weigh 137 which is 1lb up from my leaving hospital weight, I managed two meals a day over the weekend. I'm probably not drinking enough water but will try harder, as I've said before I'm fully expecting to put on some of the weight I lost in hospital especially as my muscles recover.

I'm concentrating on gruelling physiotherapy sessions in between lots of ventilation, I'm doing 16 hrs of ventilation in every 24 at the moment but hopefully will be given the all clear to start reducing that in a couple of weeks. It's more time than I've ever done before out of hospital and I'm beginning to see the benefit of being permanently ventilated via a tracheotomy. I can't believe that I've got to this point, it's very depressing. On a happier note, I have nothing that fits me and have started to spend the money that DH gave me before I got ill.

Namaste Bitches

BlackMozart · 14/11/2017 08:22

And finally....I have thought of something positive. My week this week, which was hardly a food hardship, is liveable with I think. I can see what maintenance could look like even if it takes me a year to lose the remains 4 stone. Smiling again now 😊

BlackMozart · 14/11/2017 08:25

C4 amazing. 💐 I am going to stop moaning.

Off to muck out my donkeys. Fresh air and exercise is needed.

prettybird · 14/11/2017 08:32

BlackMozart - well done for resisting the siren calls of VLCD eating Flowers

A lb a week is only an average - there will be plenty of weeks that you might stall. A quarter pound is still a quarter pound though Smile How is your shape feeling? Do you have less bloating? More energy? Are you losing weight albeit slowly without feeling hungry? All things to celebrate.

And I've often found that my weight goes up if I've not drunk enough the day before - so if you still showed a loss, then well done you! Smile

Sounds a good idea to experiment with a small square of chocolate rather than the cheese. You might also be one of those for whom dairy stalls the weight loss. I find with my bar of Lindt chocolate that psychologically it helps if I say I can have a square if I really want one, but a) I'll give myself a pat on the back if I manage to skip a day and b) I try to make a cup of peppermint and liquorice tea to have with it (so put a wee task in the way) as it seems to enhance and lengthen the enjoyment of the chocolate.

As a result, I've only had 3 pieces of chocolate over the last 2 week! Shock I've even managed to forget about it sitting calling to me for a day or too! Halo

Re your TOM: sometimes this WoE, because of the way oestrogen gets released from your dissolving Wink fat cells, it can often re trigger periods even if you're towards the end of the peri-menopause/thought you'd gone into the menopause.

Veryflummoxed · 14/11/2017 08:36

Re the 12 carb eclair debate, DH made eclairs for firework night. He is the king of the chocolate eclair. I didn’t touch one (smug smile)

Ok @Mimosa1. I’ll see how I do over the next few days with some increased water then I’m on. And I often think of your “the time will have passed anyway” quote.

@BlackMozart I wondered the same thing. When I suggested it to dh (who deals with all things culinary) he pulled a face but I’m working on him.

C4 I suspect in your case putting on weight is a sign of recovery so I’m very pleased about your gain and hope you’re able to reduce ventilation soon. Enjoy your spendingGrin

YoLoNovVitMe · 14/11/2017 08:56

Well done lenl I couldn't do that (yet) but I will.

black i find I want something after dinner too. Even when I'm stuffed. It's sometimes just habit and expectation. Dessert follows dinner, right? It's good to break habits like that. Sometimes i just want to get the taste of the dinner out of my mouth. I have found that a creamy decaf coffee does this but bloats me if I'm already full. I'm trying just water for now to see how that goes. Need to drink more anyway and use the evenings to catch up. If water doesnt do it for you, can you just cut down the amount whether it's cheese or chocolate? I.e. just have half inch square of cheese or half a square of choolate? You get the taste and the mental hit but fewer cals?

SoMuchToBits · 14/11/2017 09:01

I'm not really finding I want any "dessert" type thing after dinner, but what I love after lunch is a cup of tea with cream! It's really hitting the spot. Yes, I know, I'm weird! Grin

GailLondon · 14/11/2017 09:01

Morning everyone!
Had a good day yesterday, managed to clock up 24,000 steps on my fitbit with a bracing 7.5k morning run and a big walk around town.

B: nothing
L: Salmon fillet, brussel sprouts in butter
D: Roast chicken breast with mini sausage wrapped in bacon, grean beans
S: Mini cheese and seaweed snacks

Ive discovered seaweed snacks recently, they are lovely little crispy squares of nori roasted in sesame oil, has anyone else tried them? They really satisfy any cravings for salty crisp type snacks and weigh almost nothing so they are only 20calories / 1g carbs per pack

This kind of thing from tesco or asian shops: Korean seaweed snack

ClearEyesFullHearts · 14/11/2017 09:02

Hear hear to the fried kale, BlackMozart. In our case it was fried in salted butter. The children went nuts for it.

DrDiva · 14/11/2017 09:03

Well I don’t know if this counts as an NSV, but my favourite knee-high boots no longer stay up. Just as well I’m wearing trousers today, as they are flapping round my ankles Hmm Grin

YoLoNovVitMe · 14/11/2017 09:04

C4 good to hear you are cracking on with your recovery. Keep looking after yourself. Physio is a grind but worth it. Can you do any crafting while attached to the ventilator or do you have to be supine? Do you have any Christmas present projects planned?

And if you buy any new clothes, they don't exist without lovely photos of you in them!

Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 14/11/2017 09:05

I'm having cheese as pudding as well, there is something about having a little something completely different at the end of a meal that is a hard habit to break. It has replaced my lunchtime fruit. I've never had pudding regularly in the evening but have a longstanding habit of a snack after the DCs are in bed and I'm eating cheese then too. I don't think I'm eating it in excess but I have to watch out that it's not a gateway back to carbs as it would taste so much nicer on a cracker, same with peanut butter, ok-ish on its own or on celery but amazing on toast.

Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 14/11/2017 09:36

Ooh, I've just made a useful discovery. I've been struggling to keep track of how much water I drink over a day and have been meaning to ask how you all do it. I've just realised that my Fitbit app (where I track weight as well as steps) has a very easy to use water logging function. Thought I'd mention it in case it's useful to anyone else.

Rshard · 14/11/2017 10:09

Wow ilove - fantastic start to your day!

Glad to hear your recovery is progressing so well C4

I saw that recipe on my twitter feed blackmozart and wondered the same - I'll have a look at the recipe.

Just weighed in so reporting a 2lb loss which takes me to a stone on this woe - to say I'm delighted is an understatement! This bootcamp and all the support and inspiration has given me the kick I needed! 1lb to go to hit my lovember target of being in the 10's and then 1 more to get to 50lbs lost overall.

ilovecherries · 14/11/2017 11:12

I've been feeling a bit low and sorry for myself the last few days. Realising there I still a fair way to go (probably about 30 lbs) and at the same time realising that maintenance is certainly now on the horizon, and that's scaring the bloody shit out of me. Sticking to rigid bootcamp rules for 6 months feels much easier than the thought of negotiating food choices.

Anyway, I've been looking at late winter/early spring holidays and idly noticed the luggage allowance is 22kgs (about 48.5 pounds). And I can't lift my own suitcase onto the conveyor belt normally. Then realising that packed suitcase represents exactly the amount I've lost this year - I was carrying that bloody suitcase everywhere. Every step I took. Every time I climbed the stairs, sat on a chair, got out of the bath, went for a walk, cooked dinner, made a phone call. Literally everywhere, that suitcase was clutched to my body. I can't believe it really. How could I have done that for decades? I'm not even sure how I'm still standing to be honest. That suitcase has been heaved off and on operating tables. It's been pushed into MRI machines. It's been anaesthetised and drugged and operated on 5 times in the last few years. I'm now not sure if I want to lying sobbing on the floor in pity for it, or celebrate how strong it must have been to never, not for a moment, been able to put that suitcase down.

You know when you get on a tube or train with a big piece of (real) luggage? How people tut and sigh when it gets in their way, or encroaches on their space, and how flustered you feel because there isn't anywhere to put it? And that was my LIFE. Constantly being embarrassed by the amount of space I occupied. All because I was carrying that damn suitcase. And all the low fat eating in the world just didn't make a difference. And all through it all, you function, hold down a job, raise kids, live a life, still carrying the suitcase. Yet all the fat shaming messages would have us as lazy or stupid. Yet actually, maybe we are incredibly strong.

FurryTurnip · 14/11/2017 11:20

Wow i lovecherries. You just made me cry! You are an inspiration. Star

Rshard · 14/11/2017 11:28

So true ilove. Love it.

When I lost weight before, my dd was a toddler and I lost the equivalent of her. Twice over. I think it’s important to remember how far we’ve come, not get focussed on what we’ve still got to do. And your post summed that up perfectly. I’m going to photograph it and save it 👌

GailLondon · 14/11/2017 11:34

Wonderful Ilovecherries !

And just think how much better your body feels now it has finally put that suitcase down. How much easier everything must be! How much less stress on your lungs, heart, knees.

you should share that post, it is beautiful!

TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/11/2017 11:49

That's amazing, ilovecherries!

Well, I have no excuse. Had the induction at the gym just now so have no reason not to be there at 9 tomorrow morning, ready to do the first session of C25k on the treadmill. If I'm not dead by the end I might do a few minutes on the bike and cross trainer as well.

Annoyingly, I can't get in at 9 every morning, but three sessions a week is better than none. Can't wait for my belly to be vanquished!

In other news, I now have 1.8lbs to lose by Friday if I want to reach my 26in26 target. I'm thinking of chopping off a hand...!

Scabbersley · 14/11/2017 12:07

Hi all. I had a weird but delicious brunch of bologniase with cheese and eggs, all muddled together and microwaved.

I've drunk 4 glasses of water so far today, each glass is about 325ml. 5 more to go.

Anyone else getting a pounding heart??? It woke me up this morning and it's doing it now. Not skipping beats, just beating very hard.

chocdog · 14/11/2017 12:08

that is an amazing thought ilove. Well done for getting shot of that heavy load. I am not sure how I will cope with maintenance either. I guess we will all cross that bridge when we get to it and we can learn from the ones who get there first. I suppose I will just stay on the same regime but introduce a small rationed amount of carbs for a month (eg a glass of wine or a slice of toast a day) and see what happens.

I notice that lots of you are having a bit of dark chocolate every day and I know it's really good for you. I don't really want to have the bar calling to me from the cupboard so I've started having a cup of cocoa (no milk or sugar) occasionally. It's a bit weird and bitter but it's a change from tea and coffee.

Scabbersley · 14/11/2017 12:10

I love my dark cocoa! I have it with hot almond milk.

What's the difference between cocoa and cacao?? Sainsbury's have both!

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