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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Preparing for Bootcamp - starting on Monday 9 October!

371 replies

BIWI · 06/10/2017 09:06

Lots of people have signed up for this one - no doubt thinking about Christmas and squeezing into that little black dress!

So in advance, here's some stuff to think about so you can get planning over the weekend.

1- How long is Bootcamp?

Bootcamp lasts for 10 weeks, so our final weigh-in will be Monday 18 December.

The first two weeks of Bootcamp are the strictest, to help you shift your body away from burning carbs for fuel, to burning fat for fuel.

After the two weeks are up, you can move to Bootcamp Light, which is a little bit more relaxed. If, though, strict Bootcamp is working for you, you can stay on that. Or you can do a hybrid, following Bootcamp during the week but switching to Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

2 - Bootcamp should be easy to follow

There is absolutely no need to weigh anything, or count the carbs in anything. Nor do we count calories. Just follow the rules (only 10 of them!) and you will be fine.

Low carbing isn't the easiest WOE (way of eating), because our contemporary diet is built around carbs. Just take a look at any high street coffee shop or takeaway - all carb central!

And you may find the first few days tough going, until your body adjusts, but once you're into it, it's a simple plan. It's made that way because I'm a lazy arse who can't be bothered with all that weighing and counting!

3 - Foods that you're not allowed to eat during Bootcamp

Absolutely NONE of the following:

pasta/noodles
rice
bread (in any form - so no wraps, bagels, pittas, naans, chapattis, etc)
barley/oats/quinoa (or other grains)
flour
cake/muffins/brownies/flapjacks
potatoes
other sweet vegetables - especially sweet potatoes/sweetcorn (the clue is in the name!)
pulses/legumes (e.g. peas, lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans etc)
balsamic vinegar (it's made differently from other vinegars and is very high in carbs - wine vinegar is fine)

4 - Well what can I eat then?!

We're aiming to switch the ratio of macronutrients from carbs:protein:fat to fat:protein:carbs.

This is a high fat diet. This is something that blows most people's minds when they first start out low carbing. We've been told for the last 30-40 years that fat is bad for us, but this simply isn't true. It's a claim that was initially based on bad science and given further credence by politicians and the media.

Good sources of fat include olive oil, coconut oil, butter, cheese and cream. You will find that not only will your food taste absolutely delicious, but it's also very satiating. You will not be hungry on a low carb diet!

Other things to include in your diet are fattier cuts of meat and fish. Stop seeking out low fat chicken breast with no skin, and embrace the loveliness of roast chicken with lots of gorgeous crispy skin!

Buy mince with a higher fat content. It will have a much better taste than low fat stuff.

Fry your food rather than grill it, etc.

Your carbs on this WOE will come mainly from vegetables and salad. When I post the spreadsheet on Monday morning you'll see on the tabs at the bottom that there's a list of vegetables and their carb counts - if you stick to veg that's around 4g carbs per 100g or less, you'll be fine. Higher carb veg occasionally is OK.

If you've been used to basing your meals around pasta or rice - which lots of us do, especially if you buy a lot of ready meals, you'll have to re-think your approach to meals/cooking.

Here are some examples of meals that I might cook:

•Roast chicken with roasted vegetables• (e.g. shallots, leeks, fennel, courgettes, peppers, cauliflower). Veg roasted in olive oil, and oil or butter on the chicken skin

Marinated salmon fillets with stir-fried vegetables (salmon marinated for c. 20-30 minutes in olive oil, with garlic, ginger, soy sauce, lemon juice and Chinese 5 spice powder); veg could include mange tout, shallots, baby sweetcorn, celery.

... or serve it with egg fried 'rice' made from cauliflower

This is really easy and tastes surprisingly good - trust me! I resisted cauliflower rice for a long time, because I thought it would have too strong a cauliflower taste, but I was wrong.

To make this, separate the florets of a cauliflower, wash them, and then either pulse in a food processor until it's blitzed into small rice-like pieces, or use a box grater (this way is a bit messy, but works well if you don't have a food processor). In a wok or large frying pan, fry this in some light oil or coconut oil. It's all cooked through, which won't take long, push it all to the edges of the pan, and then in the 'hole' in the middle, add a little bit more oil, and then pour in a beaten egg. Let it set a little bit, and then stir it through the cauliflower, so it forms shreds

Shepherds pie made with high fat mince, and using celeriac mash for the topping

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Greatstuffworks · 08/10/2017 10:15

SayrraT thanks for the speadsheet, how do I find the recipes? Are they on another thread?
And is quorn OK?

blackteaplease · 08/10/2017 10:20

Looking forward to tomorrow. I have at least a stone to lose and would love to shift it by christmas.

I have 2 tips for phone users that help me and hopefully will help others.

I have just downloaded the Google sheets app on my phone which means you can edit the spreadsheet. Very useful if you don't have access to a pc.

Also use the find function in the recipe thread to search is there are loads of ideas in there but there are 900+ posts to trawl through.

See you all tomorrow

midsummabreak · 08/10/2017 10:20

Thanks SayrraT for meals ideas.

SayrraT · 08/10/2017 10:20

Recipe thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/low_carb_bootcamp/1447493-Bootcamp-Recipe-Thread

Sorry I don't know about quorn as it's not something I use. Are you vegetarian? If you are not and can eat alternatives then I would. On BC we are trying to avoid processed food.

midsummabreak · 08/10/2017 10:24

Thanks **blackteaease for handy info about downloading google sheets app on iphone & using find function in recipe thread

Veryflummoxed · 08/10/2017 10:27

BIWIGrin

Frigglet · 08/10/2017 10:31

Good morning all. Thanks for the welcomes. Lots to read since I posted last night, but I’m ready to do this. 😀

A couple of questions though please. I’m really concerned about getting bad breath through this WOE - and I’d welcome any suggestions about how to avoid that. Tbh I think it’s the biggest thing that’s affected my previous commitment to this.

The second barrier is exercise. Hate it with a passion. Are we expected to do any on this WOE? Pls say no!! 😀

HolgerDanske · 08/10/2017 10:33

Bad breath isn't much of an issue if you drink plenty (I mean plenty!) of water/liquids. You can chew a little bit of parsley as a breath freshener.

onelostsoulswimminginafishbowl · 08/10/2017 10:39

Just delurking to ask a quick question!

I have been eating full fat Greek yogurt with almond butter which is delish! Yesterday I noticed that the coconut flavoured alpro soya yogurt was much less in carbs than Total Fage yogurt. Am I missing something? Is it ok to eat the soya yogurt if I add some double cream to up the fat content?

Also...I used to eat organic peanut butter with no sugar added and the carb content was loads higher than the supermarket own brand with added sugar? So confusing Confused

I miss peanut butter Sad

ilovecherries · 08/10/2017 10:41

frigglet no exercise required :). While exercise obviously brings a lot of benefits, it's impact on weight loss isn't massive - really hard to exercise your way out of a bad diet, for example. I've only started to exercise in the last three weeks, and that's more because as I've lost weight, I've seen the potential for me to be fitter overall. But for my first two stone, nothing apart from usual everyday activities.

ilovecherries · 08/10/2017 10:43

And re bad breath - yeah, it happens (well it did to me, despite drinking lots) I keep a pot of fresh mint on the windowsill at chew a couple of leaves of that.

BIWI · 08/10/2017 10:55

I'm going to shout now. Just to warn you all Grin

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE YOU JUMP IN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

It's already happened a couple of times on this thread - people asking questions about things that have already been posted.

I know that the threads can move quickly, especially at the beginning, but it's really frustrating when posters have spent time to write things, and answer questions, when it's obvious that other posters haven't bothered to read the thread.

And even when the threads are moving quickly, if you bookmark where you get to, each time you join the thread you'll be taken to that place, so you won't have to start again from the beginning!

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BIWI · 08/10/2017 10:57

Re the bad breath thing, this really should only happen in the early stages of ketosis. You can chew fresh mint/parsley, as PP have suggested, or you could use sugar-free gum (short term fix only, as this does have artificial sweeteners in it).

But it's also a sign that you could do with drinking more water.

And also, if you're suffering regularly/continually from this, then try upping your carbs a little.

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swlondonnanny · 08/10/2017 11:01

Just added myself onto the spreadsheet Smile
Was on the previous bootcamp but looks like I STS since then (which is not a bad thing I suppose). Looking forward to starting again tomorrow

Oncewaswho · 08/10/2017 11:04

Sorry, that's me repeating myself about the milk in tea. I still haven't fully understood why it's so bad to use skimmed just for that, when there are the same amount of carbs per mL as full fat (assuming you use the same amount, I use about a teaspoonful per cup). I can see that you generally need full fat everything as it's healthier, more natural, more filling, but milk isn't like low fat yogurt where sugar gets pumped in to replace fat, and such small volumes can't make a difference to how full you feel.

starsky22 · 08/10/2017 11:06

Hello to all the new bootcampers!
Frigglet - obviously some exercise will help with losing weight and toning, but I've lost 2 stone so far on this woe with very little exercise (walking, pilates & 7 min app)

Onelost nuts/seeds not allowed in first 2 weeks, but after that whole earth peanut butter with sunflower, pumpkin & flaxseeds is pretty low carb, as long as you don't eat a whole jar in one sitting!

BIWI · 08/10/2017 11:15

grams of carbs per 100ml:

skimmed milk 5.0g
semi-skimmed milk 4.8g
whole milk 4.7g

grams of fat per 100ml:

skimmed milk

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Oncewaswho · 08/10/2017 11:19

Thanks BIWI, I can totally see why it's better to avoid milk completely, but found it confusing that people were suggesting switch to full fat in tea when it's such small amounts.

HolgerDanske · 08/10/2017 11:22

Full fat is always best on LCHF Smile - Takes a little while to get your head round it but it's really quite simple and effective.

BIWI · 08/10/2017 11:26

@onelostsoulswimminginafishbowl that yoghurt sounds fine, especially if you're adding cream to it.

I never understand why peanut butter varies so much! (Although I do know that some of them use sugar). From memory, Sainsbury's own, crunchy variant is one of the lower ones.

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you can have peanut butter - I occasionally mix it with yoghurt, and a bit of vanilla bean paste. It makes a lovely and very indulgent combination

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BIWI · 08/10/2017 11:28

@Frigglet no you don't have to do any exercise Grin

Weight loss is mainly about diet. 80% diet and 20% exercise is the ratio you'll see bandied around the internet. But in his recent book "The Obesity Code" Dr. Jason Fung suggests that it's 95% and 5%.

So you need to panic.

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littlebillie · 08/10/2017 11:29

I'm joining but will postpone the full woe until I'm better. I can't cope with a sore throat without honey tea. Rather this than be poorly

Frigglet · 08/10/2017 11:30

Oops, that’s me told 😀. Just there’s so much to read on as I’m a total novice and really do want to do it right this time. I do get the frustration though, so I now have a little notebook (dinosaur that I am) jotting down questions and searching back for the answers. I have a lot of questions.

All this extensive reading and note taking is taking me back to my uni days. If I make it to the end of boot camp - without cheating- I think I’ll award myself an honorary degree! 😀

Really do appreciate the hard work, time and support of BIWI and so many others who put this all together and lead us through our efforts. Huge thanks. I look forward to a fitter slimmer me for Christmas.

Frigglet · 08/10/2017 11:32

Ooh, ilove, can’t tell you how happy I am to know that there’s no requirement for exercise!!

littlebillie · 08/10/2017 11:33

Btw did anyone see Mary Berry's cooking program she was berating low fat cheese in cooking she is full fat all they way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/salmonfilletsswith79924

Served with courgetti in butter 😁

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