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Inbetween BCs Thread #2

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SayraT · 23/04/2015 08:05

We filled up the last thread and we still have 3 weeks to go until the next official BC so here is our new inbetween BC thread.

Link to previous thread

So, I was good yesterday and now all of my confessions are lost on the previous thread Grin but I am going to carry on with daily weighing and food recording so this morning I weighed 225 lbs.

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plumstone · 08/05/2015 15:23

Lex, Hi T3 and American - never used them before but as I am flying at 7:45am it will be the middle of the night when I get up Sad am planning 1l of water prior to leaving, and then some cheese when I am through security, then aim to get on flight and sleep!!!

I have discovered that there is a Surf and Turf night on at my hotel on Saturday night - prime steak and lobster in melted butter - I may not come back!!!!! Grin

StuntNun · 08/05/2015 15:35

Dumdedum going even lower carb could help.

sassandfaff · 08/05/2015 15:40

dark

dp out running you

LexLoofah · 08/05/2015 15:51

plum AA food is not the greatest even with no dietary restrictions, worse than BA. However if you like seafood checkout the Caviar House Seafood bar in T3 departures as they have fab seafood selection takeout boxes that come in an insulated pack so you can crack it open for a picnic when you wake up over the Atlantic.

If you have time and want to eat brekkie at the airport then Rhubarb will do for a cooked breakfast and tea/coffee.

Enjoy your trip, just think of the amazing facial you can give yourself on the way back after raiding Sephora! I am slavishly following the amazing faces thread as well, am already 40 but this is the year I re-invent myself and do not want a saggy post weight loss wrinkled mug!

LexLoofah · 08/05/2015 15:59

Dum I hear you on the eating out of habit and boredom but perhaps have a think about why you want to lose, how it will feel, what will change like going clothes shopping and not being limited as to choice. Perhaps have an outfit hung up as goal/reminder or a photo of you when you were happy with your weight stuck up on the fridge. It is a journey and it makes us all confront certain things as we go along.

Try to find something else to fill the time or distract you until the craving has passed. Come and post on here!

Maybe a different way of 'treating' yourself like getting some cosmetics instead of champagne and chocolate for example and stay off the alcohol as it will get burned first and leave you craving carbs, totally sabotages things, sorry.

DarkEvilMoon · 08/05/2015 16:03

Sorry sass Needed a bit of silly today. Hope you get an answer to your symptoms soon

sassandfaff · 08/05/2015 16:24

dark I laughed. I meant it funny too.

Grin
plumstone · 08/05/2015 16:42

Lex - thanks thats a great idea - and if they are open at 5:45am tomorrow I am all over that - will definitely check out Rhubarb - I love my breakfast and feel that there is something wrong if I don't eat it!!!

Between the facially aware thread and this thread we will look amaze balls by the end of the year Grin

Fatstacks · 08/05/2015 20:35

I'm doing the face thread too Grin I've never been shinier!

Saw my arse about the exit polls last night and have been main lining yoghurt and frozen cherries since then Sad
that'll teach em

I'm sat with my retin A doing it's stuff and an empty yoghurt bowl bucket

Hopefully Monty will get me enthused to get wet tomorrow.

LexLoofah · 08/05/2015 20:57

whoever posted about berry crumble earlier in the week please can you let me have the recipe? I fancy a hot dessert/berries/almonds this weekend before forsaking that kind of thing before BC on Monday - thnx

StuntNun · 08/05/2015 21:23

Berry crumble recipe for Lex. All Crabby's recipes are amazing but she has a special place in my heart for coming up with low carb berry crumble. I go against Bootcamp rules and put half to one teaspoon of Stevia in because otherwise I find it too tart.

LexLoofah · 08/05/2015 21:33

stunt thanks very much! and crabby too of course, will have a mooch on the rest of the blog later,

Romeyroo · 08/05/2015 21:40

Dark, I had the same thought but didn't want to say... I am sure all will be well, sass, I have had occasional funny hormonal like things happen on this WOE, but generally settled down

Dum, it was the clothes thing that did it for me, i just didn't fit anything particularly my work clothes and could not afford a whole new wardrobe. Plus reading about what sugar and refined carbs do to your blood sugar and body; and feeling angry at the multi-million pound industry that essentially promotes bad nutrition, I don't want to buy their stuff. I discovered I am really sensitive to carbs and they trigger cravings like you say; and even small amounts trigger weight gain or stall weight loss. Plus carbs also make my emotional state worse which is not a good thing. i do have the added advantage of being allergic to wheat and related grains, dairy and nuts though, plus fruit and certain carbier veg related to birch and grass pollen. I drink endless cups of herbal tea and water to fill any gaps too.

Okay, my fridge is stocked full of green veg, meats, fish and eggs; I have a variety of herbal teas - only thing is willpower failed and 90% dark chocolate made it into the basket. I will put it in the car boot or something on Monday. I am useless at meal planning rigidly, so am just going to write down the various options and tick them off as I use them. I don't know till the time if I will want something hot or cold etc and hate feeling constrained (probably due to XH history). So I never manage to stick to meal plans, but I need a bit more organisation than last boot camp.

Patapouf · 08/05/2015 23:26

Dinner ended up as ham, cucumber and Philly as I wasn't at home. Roast beef is roasting now and I might have a slice if I'm still hungry when it's done. I need to be careful with the cream cheese because it has quite a few carbs in Confused
Drinking some Twinings mango and strawberry tea and I can't say I'm impressed. It doesn't taste like mango at all . BC off to a shaky start but so far so good.

trashcanjunkie · 09/05/2015 01:05

dum I filled my empty up,with nail varnish, getting my eyelashes added to at the beauty salon, sewing, crochet, and most importantly - coming on this thread and baring my soul about it.

Oh, and buying stoopid shoes Grin

Had another great food day. Serious wobble this evening. Went out to a film festival as a family and we usually get ice cream from this incredible place next door. I announced I was thinking of getting one, and Dp was all encouraging. Then ds2 said, very nicely, not in a horrid way 'nooooo don't do it mummy' when I asked him why, he said it was cos he wanted a slender mum again. It was done so tactfully and supportively, it just sort of set my mind like concrete, and I genuinely and happily didn't have the ice cream. Funny enough, the thing that was a wrench was realising in the theatre that I couldn't get a cup of tea cos I'm dairy free. That felt like a sucker punch, but honestly I feel good about it. I'm going to eat some almonds soon though. I've gone blank and forgotten ways to keep calcium levels up. I know it's in dark green veg, and almonds, but can't remember what else. (Ha! Perhaps I'll take my own bloody advice and google it Grin)

Dumdedumdedum · 09/05/2015 05:19

Good morning, all! Just eating a bit more mindfully yesterday means I lost 1lb, so I am hopeful that I can do this!

I very much appreciate everyone's advice about ways of making oneself stick to this WoE day in day out. Thank you all. My main problem is the empty days - I know if I were working, this WoE would be a doddle for me since, as long as my mind is occupied with work, I'm not thinking about food. As it is, I'm a "housewife, not allowed to work" and my unemployed status for the past few years is part of the reason I've piled on the pounds, I think. As well as pure greed, of course. However, in any case, I don't think I expressed myself properly before. I have many reasons I want to lose weight, the main one probably being my 60th birthday closely followed by our Silver Wedding Anniversary (when I would love to at least get near my size 12 wedding dress!) this time next year, not to mention incipient Type 2 Diabetes. My problem is, I need willpower and no excuses to sabotage myself. I just don't have staying power. I'm not sure where the mojo came from for the first two weeks I did in April, though I know where I lost it!

Will spend today and tomorrow reading my Bible India and Neris's pig book and thoroughly going over the BC rules ready for Monday. I can't find good quality sausages here, which is a sore point, as they are full of rusk, so will just stick with back bacon with my eggs for brekkie. I am hoping to be just below a stone number (IYSWIM) when we start on Monday.

Thank you to everyone for your advice and support, particularly to BIWI and SayraT for all you do.

BIWI · 09/05/2015 07:54

I echo others' advice here, Dum, especially re learning more about the health/long-term benefits of low carbing. That was a real lightbulb moment for me, and it's what enables me to stick with it for most of the time.

Like everyone, though, I'm only human and there are times when I stray off plan. Sometimes it's circumstances. For example, I travel a fair bit for work, and I can't always control what food will be available to eat. Going to Vietnam earlier in the year was a good example. I could have had a low carb meal in the hotel every night, but I wanted to be able to eat genuine Vietnamese food. So I did - and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Sometimes, for example, you get invited out to dinner, and the menu will be carb-laden. But it would be very rude to not eat the food that's been cooked for you! (Even when I've been able to let my host/hostess know that I'm low carbing, it's still not unusual to be given something carby, simply because people often don't understand what is or isn't carby!)

But after these moments, my life is usually a pretty low carb one - certainly relative to 'normal' diets. I very, very, very rarely eat pasta or rice or bread. I don't eat much fruit; if I do it's lower carb fruit like rhubarb, which I love - but have to use an artificial sweetener to make it palatable, so I avoid this too, even though I love it!

My downfall is white wine, which I'm trying to restrict as much as possible.

What really cemented me to this way of life and eating was reading more about it. "Escape the Diet Trap" by Dr John Briffa was the first book I read, and it was a real epiphany for me.

I followed that by "The Diet Delusion" by Gary Taubes. A much harder-going book, but incredibly thorough. Followed by his more palatable "Why We Get Fat, and What to Do About It".

Finding out that a high carb diet is associated not just with weight gain but also obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cancer and Alzheimer's disease was a total shock. My gran was and my dad is a Type 2 diabetic (my dad now has to have insulin as well, as it's not well-controlled), and my mum died from advanced breast cancer, so these are obviously things I'm very aware of.

I'm also older than many on Mumsnet; I started this palaver aged 52, (I'm now 55), when I suddenly became aware that not only was I overweight, with a weight that was creeping inexorably upwards, but I was also very unfit. So I also have a personal trainer who I see twice a week. I'ave just joined a new gym that will be running personal trainer-based classes, which I'm hoping to do at least once a week. I want to be fit and healthy in my later years, so that I can enjoy my retirement!

Very, very long post but a roundabout way of saying - read more about low carbing, and think beyond the 'diet' side of it.

minibmw2010 · 09/05/2015 07:55

Thank you for the crumble recipe StuntNun. DH has joined me on this WOE and although he's doing ok he says he does miss sweet things so I'll make this for him today.

BIWI · 09/05/2015 08:02

Don't forget, mini, that we're trying to break the hold that sweet things have over us! If you can go for a couple of weeks without anything sweet, you will find that it makes a huge difference to you.

Dumdedumdedum · 09/05/2015 08:53

Thank-you for your comprehensive answer, BIWI.

I'm afraid I'm not making myself very clear here. I know myself and I just don't know where to get the willpower from, to get myself into the right mindset to stick with this WoE for long enough for it to become second nature, which is what I want to happen, as I think low-carb is the healthiest way of eating for me. I can tell myself all the health benefits of low-carb eating till I'm blue in the face, but until I can "get my head in the right space" to make myself stick with it, I will get nowhere.

Thank you for letting me vent here, it is extremely useful to me to clarify my thoughts!

Sorelip · 09/05/2015 09:15

Holy damn low carb pancakes are the nuts! 4oz cream cheese and 4 eggs in a blender and you're good to go. Had mine with cream. Yum yum!

Dum I know what you mean about willpower. Things that are keeping me going are; making meals that are so tasty that I don't need carbs to make them better; eating enough at mealtimes so I know I don't need snacks and so don't bother with them; not having the kind of carbs I'm suseptible to in the home; and having short term and long term goals, so I get positive reinforcement regularly.

I'm running (or walking slowly - this cold/cough/plague is taking ages to piss off) a half marathon tomorrow and want to run the marathon next year. Weighing less will make it easier. So a mid term goal helps too.

Sorelip · 09/05/2015 09:16

Also giving up booze makes sticking to the plan so much easier. I can eat so much after a bottle of wine it's ridiculous.

I hope that doesn't all read like a bunch of patronising crap.

Romeyroo · 09/05/2015 09:17

When I reflected on it dum, the empty feeling seemed to me to go beyond hunger, or even feelings of hunger induced by cravings. Are you talking about more of an inner emptiness, an intellectual emptiness, social emptiness? Can you try and explain the emptiness and the need eating fills?

I think willpower is something of a myth; it is not something you randomly have or don't have. What in your life does motivate you? How and why is that different?

And why do you 'have' to be a housewife, not 'allowed' to work? If you already feel constrained in one central aspect of your life, then maybe this WOE seems like more constraints? To me, this WOE opened up possibilities, rather than shutting them down. So the question is again what need does your current WOE serve?

Apologies if on wrong tack, then ignore. I need to attend to DC but will be back with more practical thoughts Flowers

minibmw2010 · 09/05/2015 09:23

I completely agree BIWI. It's not for me, I've never really had a sweet tooth, but DH is really struggling so I thought I'd make it for him.

CrabbyTheCrabster · 09/05/2015 09:34

Glad you like the recipe mini and thanks for the testimonial Stunt! Grin I need to change the recipe slightly actually, as I've fine tuned it since. Actually pulsing the topping a bit more until it starts to bind together is fine, and packing it down quite firmly - it seems to crisp up better then. Also a longer cooking time until it's really good and brown on top - 30 mins is fine. I put spices in the topping, too, rather than the berries. Nutmeg and cardamon are perfect.

Careful though... It is very, very moreish!

Made a lovely recipe last night. Meatballs in tomato sauce with roasted broccoli, a sort of bastardised lasagne:

Cooked a couple of diced shallots in olive oil til soft. Added couple of cloves of chopped garlic and gently fried a little longer. Added two tins chopped tomatoes, a load of thyme, a huge squirt of tomato puree and plenty of black pepper. A glug of red would have been good but didn't have any open. Oh and a bay leaf.

Brought to simmer and then put in oven on a low heat - 150-160*C - for a couple of hours, stirring once in a while. You want it to reduce and thicken but not burn.

45 mins before eating time, make the meat balls. Use whatever mince you like. I used pork and rose veal (British and ethically produced; I would never buy 'normal' veal!) and they made a lovely, delicately flavored meatball. Beef or lamb would be fine though. Squish up the mince with herbs and seasonings and an egg to bind, shape them into balls.

Make your topping... I used mascarpone, mozzarella and gruyere. Mashed up the mozzarella and mixed it with the mascarpone and the grated gruyere, black pepper and nutmeg. I used about two thirds of the tub of mascarpone but could have used the whole lot easily. Heat it up in a pan.

Mix the meatballs carefully into the tomato sauce. Pour the cheese sauce on top. Scatter grated gruyere all over the top. Turn the heat up to 170-180*C and cook for about 20 mins.

I served it with anchovy roasted broccoli but it would be great with courgetti. It served us (2 piggywigs) with loads left over so I'd say that would serve 3 greedy people or 4 normal people. Wink