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Week 3 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Where We Have a Decision to Make!

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BIWI · 02/02/2015 07:40

Morning all.

Here's the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So we've finished Bootcamp! Well done all Flowers or at least to all those who are still with us Grin

Now you have a decision to make. You can move on to Bootcamp Light, if you wish, which is more relaxed (to a degree). The rules are on the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet - sorry, I don't have time to copy/paste this morning as I have to get off to work about 10 minutes ago.

But essentially it means that you can introduce nuts and berries - in moderation. You no longer have to have three meals a day. If you're not hungry, then it's fine to skip a meal - as long as you don't then dive into a pile of carbs when you get hungry! And you can have alcohol - again, in moderation.

If you're happy with the stricter Bootcamp then by all means stay on that, but please, please, please make sure that your carbs are coming from vegetables and salad. It's important that you get nutrition from these.

Or you can, if you like, do Bootcamp at the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

However

There is also something else you need to prepare for, and that is the dreaded weeks 3 and 4 slowdown!

It's something that lots of people experience. The weight loss suddenly stops, for no apparent reason. If this happens, don't worry and don't panic that you're doing anything wrong (assuming that you're not, of course Wink), just keep on keeping on, and it will get going again - albeit at a slower rate.

From here on, you should be expecting to see a loss of 1-2lbs a week.

Good luck everyone!

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sassandfaff · 03/02/2015 17:14

Yes, me too fatstacks although I no longer do it every meal. Blush

I like the liquorice tea for that reason as well.

BIWI · 03/02/2015 17:17

Fastbacks?! Bloody autocorrect Grin

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sassandfaff · 03/02/2015 17:30
Wink

I have weaned myself A.LOT.

I was an emotional eating. I had a go to treat. Surprise, surprise, it was chocolate.

Due to IBS, I steered clear of everything else. Cakes, biscuits etc.

But when I wean myself off something, as I have done for the last 2 years ish, I just replace it with something else.

More recently alcohol.

I haven't had alcohol since new years eve. Even though I could have had it yesterday and today in theory. But that's not to say I drink everyday, because I don't. But if I have a sressfull day and my anxiety is through the roof, I will reach for the alcohol. Always a spirit with coke. I might only have 1, or 2, and I rarely get 'drunk' or even tipsy, but I'm aware it's still a crutch.

I've spent the whole of Jan sugar less, coke less and alcohol less, but I know really that I've used Greek yogurt as the substitute. But, not daily and not always in response to stress.

I don't think this trait is food based as such, I think it's more to do with being brought up in a household that would give you a treat when you hurt yourself, felt upset etc.

It took me over 30 years to figure that out, and I have never give the youngest 3 food when they are crying. They get cuddled and kissed and then they go on their way. Unfortunately I realised this too late for my teenage dd and she is a binge eater.

Notso · 03/02/2015 17:38

Hello all.
Mrs K Flowers so sorry to hear about your MIL

I messed up my day yesterday and didn't get to the supermarket. That would normally be a beans on toast dinner for us all but I had a whole (small) swede blended with cream, butter and a bit of cheese with crispy bacon bits stirred through. It was perfect comfort food.
Today was yoghurt for breakfast,
Lunch pork steak with cauliflower cheese
Dinner chicken, bacon and leeks in a creamy sauce.
I did the shred again...ooooowwww is all I have to say about that.

sassandfaff · 03/02/2015 17:55

Blush bared my soul a little bit there.....

BeyondDoesBootcamp · 03/02/2015 17:59

Dinner - chicken kebab with salad and garlic mayo. Chai tea with cream

BIWI · 03/02/2015 18:04

Flowers sass

Baring the soul is good! And important that you have gained such insight into yourself

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SayraT · 03/02/2015 18:09

sass don't worry about it, thats what this thread is all about Smile

MassaAttack · 03/02/2015 18:12

Thank you Sayra :)

I'm 167lb now, and was 169 a week ago so actually 2lbs lost - sorry!

I'll get onto a laptop and update.

CharlieSierra · 03/02/2015 18:19

thanks for your explanation StuntNun, hope you don't mind me asking further questions

Yes. It is perfectly possible to not lose weight and even to gain weight on this WoE if your calorie intake is higher than your calorie expenditure

I often find myself looking at my food and thinking surely there must be far too many calories here for weight loss - so do you think you can eat more calories and still lose on this woe, and also is it common place that people who have a tendency to overeat (like me, I need to lose 3 stone to be a 'healthy' weight), find it difficult to self regulate and need to be given guidance? I read on here what people eat and still lose and I wonder what I'm doing wrong, are their helpings much smaller than mine? I don't think so looking at the pictures, but I don't know. I don't pig out, I only eat until satiety, but maybe others are satisfied on less.

I understand it's not a sprint and try to take a long view, but the fact is that in the bc phase it is quite restrictive and it would be a lot easier to deal with that if the results were reliable, 1-2 lb a week on average is fine, buggering about losing and gaining the same 2lb for several weeks is soul destroying.

LexLoofah · 03/02/2015 18:27

Re: yogurt after dinner, DH has been asking for this every night - he used to ask 'have we any treats?' knowing full well that of course we did so I have been saying ' do you really need it? are you really hungry?' and generally saying 'no you can't have any' so glad that was the right thing. Another reason for us to stay bc and not lite for now as too soon for us to slip back into old habits.

Sass my upbringing was the same and as soon as a meal was over out came the biscuit barrel and the cake tin, am/was conditioned to having something sweet after something savoury and stupidly have done the same to my kids but thankfully they are young so I have time to correct it and they won't have to do bootcamp!

B- turkey bacon (no idea why I bought this as low fat, will seek out some American style more-fat-than-meat style bacon next time), scrambled eggs with butter, mushrooms in butter, lovely cup of tea
L- smoked mackerel, 2 hb eggs, mayo, salad - struggled to finish it
D - will be lemon butter chicken thighs, cauli or turnip mash, buttered spinach

sassandfaff · 03/02/2015 18:40

Thanks biwi and sayra

lex I'm glad you have time to correct it.

Today's food.

B- bacon and eggs at 11.30. ( researching online for dp's birthday present- 60 mins flying lesson) and half an individual dark chocolate. (2.3g worth)

L- nothing as breakfast late. But did eat a chunk of mature cheese about 4.

D- chicken breast wrapped in prosciutto, dipped in egg and then Parmesan. With feta salad and dollop of mayo.

SayraT · 03/02/2015 18:44

Food Today

B: Egg (x2) in a cup, coffee with cream
S: Wee tray from my graze box
L: Chicken mayo, salad (lettuce, cucumber, tomato), babybel
S: FF yog with berries - directly after lunch
D: Gigot chop, celeriac mash, asparagus

For those that don't enjoy drinking water, have you tired making fruit tea and leaving it to cool? I've just made some strawberry and raspberry tea (2 twinnings teabags in 1 litre dH2O), I left it for ages to infuse and it is lovely to drink.

SayraT · 03/02/2015 18:45

Haha!

Read my post and guess what I do Grin

MontserratCaballe · 03/02/2015 19:00

Thank you everyone for the support. Just nipping on to say that my kids were in a bad habit of seeking out pudding after every supper but I just stopped after the Christmas holidays and now they don't ask. There were a few painful weeks and they do of course still have ice cream etc on a Friday after supper, but it isn't something they are wanting all the time. I think Frubes / petits filous are not a good thing as they have sweeteners and sugar, so whilst small, they are not filling or sating. I also want to encourage the savoury side - much nicer and healthier!

If you are going to have sugar (and I do allow them in moderation) far better to have the best cake ever but have it once rather than indifferent yoghurt crap after every supper....

lurkingmurking · 03/02/2015 19:03

Random thought - are we supposed to be having double or single cream?

SayraT · 03/02/2015 19:08

Double cream lurking it is lower in carbs than single.

BlueberryHope · 03/02/2015 19:08

Sass I am so similar to you! I don't remember being conditioned in a family sense to have treaty foods as comfort, nor did we often have puddings - my mom did all the cooking and she has absolutely no sweet tooth at all - but I am aware that I comforted myself with food from my teens (after being told off by school nurse for being heavy - which I was but from photos can see I didn't look overweight at all) - and also have many years of my dad saying how fat I was (still unpicking that, he is such a lovely man, can't really work that out...) Anyway, so yes I know what you mean about substituting something for something else - chocolate to wine etc. I know if I smoked I would be thin, for example, as I would have a cigarette where I now scoff chocolate or cake! (Not past few weeks BIWI, you may lower the stick) Wine is the same, though I had a dry Jan and only half a v small glass wine Sunday night. I just know something will give whenever I next get really stressed! I keep thinking I should take up yoga or meditating (anyone?) but have neither time nor money! Writing a diary sometimes helps, also my CBT exercises... But I feel your pain Sass...

BIWI · 03/02/2015 19:29

... and double cream has more fat

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MrsKoala · 03/02/2015 19:38

Sayra, i think you told me how to hard boil an egg on the last BC thread but i can't remember Blush . We are travelling home tomo so i want to make up snacks. Could anyone remind me?

Today
b- (very late) Sausage, 2 eggs, green pepper & leeks
l - cold roast chicken and half a bag of leaves and mayo
s - peperami and a slice of cheese
D - fish cooked in leeks and cream and parsley with curly kale
yogurt and a few raspberries.

BIWI · 03/02/2015 19:49

How to hard boil an egg?!

Put egg(s) in cold water (in a pan on the hob!), and bring to the boil. Turn it down to a simmer and cook for around 3 minutes (for a medium egg).

Et voila!

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BIWI · 03/02/2015 19:50

ArghArghArgh! 3 minutes is for soft boiled Blush

Around 8-10 minutes for hard boiled. Take the pan off the hob after that, tip the boiling water away and re-fill the pan with lots of cold water. This helps stop a black ring forming around the yolk. (Nothing wrong with it, it just doesn't look that nice)

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PeonyStick · 03/02/2015 19:51

popping in briefly weekday lurker/ weekend poster
sayra could you come over here and weigh me and put in on the spreadsheet for me Grin Grin only joking
All well now in my LC world. You do learn something on every BC- and I didn't know all the stuff about small frequent meals and insulin spikes...... well I am sure I do know that deep in my brain but it hadn't registered.
So- thanks marvelous Biwi...... as a habitual lifelong snacker...... I sense a sea change coming on

MrsKoala · 03/02/2015 19:51

Yes i know it's ridiculous BIWI, i am actually a very good cook. I just can never get them right. I crack them open and they are still bloody raw! I think i start counting from too early - does it have to be a rolling boil?

SayraT · 03/02/2015 19:52

Yes, I think I did MrsK Grin

Exactly like BIWI just said.

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