Week 6 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Drawing a Line Under It

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Time for the new thread ...

Am on iPad and have no time to link to the Spreadsheet, but please talk here! Will do links later (unless some kind soul could do them for me)

thanks jimmy i started BC a week last tuesday so no alcohol although i am out tomorrow night for a friends birthday that has been organised for ages so i will have a few i don't think i have ever been to the pub and not had an alcoholic drink sad so tonight will be a first!

I'm expecting not to have lost at the scales on tuesday because of drinks tomorrow but if i am going to do this as a WOE and not a diet then there will be some weekends when i will have some alcohol and i'll just have to accept this at the scales - is this what everyone else mostly approaches it?

aha thanks ewan for phrasing it so nicely

Thanks LC, is it OK to post here regarding this?

Somehow with the lovely unctuous stuff we get to eat, the salmon, the greek yoghurt, the cream etc it feels indulgent to adopt this WOE, and therefore I struggled really hard to be so self-focussed. daft eh?

With DS accident and everything, thinking like that is counter intuitive. confession: i didn't eat at all for a good few days in Hospital, as it didn't feel as if I should. I know there seems to be a weird f-ed up logic there.

while in hospital, i got offered toast most mornings and after a while accepted them.

Now that we are back into normal life it's a little easier to start looking at getting myself back on track, I'm drinking the water, avoiding the carbs mostly and trying not to beat myself up.

I need to start again, properly, as I know how great i felt when I was in bootcamp. I guess i need to give myself permission to move on from what happened.

Hissy - I think there's a lot to say about effect of such stress you and your family experienced

I wouldn't be surprised if your hormones were all over place after such stressful time.

All - thanks for your kind thoughts. Sadly, DH's sister died this morning in hospital. He is taking it extremely well - but I am looking out to make sure he is being honest. She has had a long term condition for many years, but we did not expect this to happen so quickly. Anyway, I have to figure out how to get him there for the funeral etc...

I am doing my best to not let myself use this as an excuse to overeat. I ate far too much last night - my typical attempt at trying to fill the hole of dread or worry or sorrow - and I am regretting it already. Today I am going to try to do better.

Hissy - be kind to yourself. You have been through a lot and it will take some time to just get organized again and get over the shock.

thanks antimatter and hello losers, good to see you back hissy

B: coffee with cream x 2 (hectic morning!)
L: massive salad with chicken, cucumber, boursin, mayo, avocado
D: chicken thighs in garlic/lemon - another BC staple from the recipe thread but well received by all the family, which is saying something

water - 1.5l down already, 1.5 to go. snuck on the scales earlier and was pleasantly surprised that they're hovering round the same figures.

hope everyone has a good friday

so sorry for your/DHs loss spamm

spamm - So sorry to hear your sad news

Hissy - Welcome back. I understand what you mean about struggling to be self focussed but you do deserve to look after yourself and it is ok to eat good food that helps you feel better and even actually indulge yourself now and then. It can be really hard to wrap your head around the idea that you can think about yourself when you've spent a long time putting others first. I didn't look after myself for years, just concentrated on everyone else to the point where it was detrimental to my own health and well being, what gave me a kick up the bum and made me realise that not only do I deserve to look after myself but that I really need to was the recent discovery that my son has a life long disability and will need my help likely forever and I wouldn't be able to do that if I ended up really ill. It's one thing to know all that and quite another to put it into practise though, just be gentle with yourself and try not to blame yourself, accidents happen and you sound like a wonderful mum to me.

I'm sorry for your/DH's loss, Spamm

Thinking of you, too, Hissy

A favour to ask: Someone posted a recipe for slow roasted pork belly some time ago but I can't remember who it was, or where.. Don't think it was on the recipe thread.. Anyone know where I can find it or have it handy to c&p for me? Thanks

Hello there ..!!
This is my third attempt to post today as I have lost the others two post.... Don't know where they went..:)
Anyway first of all SPAM, I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, :(

BIRDI you must be over the moon with new clothes...:) :) enjoy the feeling , as I know how sad is to open the wardrobe and star: " doesn't fit, nope, no, doesn't fit..."
And to finish all the clothes with nothing to wear, and close the door and break into tears ...
Never mind here we are to celebrate people's achievements so let's b positive ...!!

LOWCARB I think all the suggestions are great, but for me what it works the best is one day like today, sunbathing in the garden and feeling the sun in my face and body.... It gives me life. Is when I can forget about everything and everybody , so if u like the sun, try to relax in the garden and let your thoughts take u to a paradise island or some exotic beaches or... whatever place you would like to go :)

HISSY- I have followed your post all this time and u went through a lot ; so please try to put behind what happened and take everyday as it comes , one step at the time :)

Blimey I haven't post my food yet...
B-- bpc
L--chicken liver with 3 knobs ( funny English word..!) of butter
D-- more likely smoked salmon and avocado.

Ahh!! And 3 l of water so far.... I'm going to buy a portable toilet...:)

Spamm so sorry to hear that. My condolences.

Perfect pulled pork -

here but leave off the sugar It is lovely.

Good day here. Feeling much better today.

Spamm I'm so sorry to hear your news, i hope you manage to get DH to the UK OK. Thankfully I dare say that the funeral won't be too quick, so you won't have to rush too much IYKWIM. No matter how expected these things are, it's always a shock to lose someone who by rights shouldn't have 'gone yet'. My thoughts are with you all.

Birdinacage that is really helpful. I am on my own and DS is only 8. His dad is an idiot, I have a very complicated family and if anything were to happen to me, I genuinely don't know what would happen to him. Your comment may be the path to the 'hook' I need. I'm sorry to hear about your son, i'm glad you are able to be so strong for him. I'll work on this thought process and hopefully it will sink in! :)

antimatter I hadn't thought about hormones, how does that work wrt stress/upheaval etc?

I shall go and peruse the Recipes and look for some inspiration! I am looking at the spinich/paneer/coconut thingy... looks YUM!

Thanks Supermum DS has started to talk about 'that night'. it's hard going, but it's healing for us both. Bless him he's not cried at all about it. not once.

Kids are resilient I know, perhaps they see things more simply.

Thank you, lowcarbforthewin. I forgot to mention, I've got pork belly slices, so don't think pulled pork style will work (or will it? Anyone know?)

for you too! lowcarbforthewin! I know how much mental and emotional strength, and work, goes into changing the habits of a lifetime. I am fine on good days but on bad days i would give almost anything to be able to eat my feelings away. It's a weird thing to have your mind crying out for something and simultaneously have your body saying, no I don't actually want that crap in me.

Hmmm exclamation marks were inadvertent. Wasn't being quite so exuberant, heh.

Struggling this afternoon. It's been a long busy week, I'm knackered and have a quiet hour on my own at home before the kids arrive. I am trying hard not to go and raid the fridge.

Too tired to cook.

I have lots of good LC things in the house but can't find the thing that will hit the spot so I have grazed on Pepperami, cheese and clotted cream and I'm still not satisfied. I will go and drink some more water then go and lie down till the kids get home.

Really need to stay out of the kitchen.

I wish I had some pork scratchings in the house. Maybe I need some salt. Humph……..

Thanks everyone, that's a great help.
Today I've had omelette with cheese and one tomato.
Pastrami and salad with yoghurt then chicken korma with cauliflower rice which was pretty yummy.
Is that along the right lines?
Two more questions: what is BPC?
And how do you cook your courgette ribbons? Sauté?

Hi oolaroola, I would think you need to up your fat a bit, I'm not sure how you've made your korma but watch the sugar. If you are able to put your foods into myfitnesspal you should have ratios as follows fat 65 - 70%, protein 15 - 20%, carbs 5 - 10%

Use butter freely, use it in your eggs, melted on your allowed veg etc.

Coconut oil is good for cooking too.

Bpc is bulletproof coffee, it's coffee mixed with butter and coconut oil. It sounds disgusting but is absolutely delicious. I usually use around 12fl oz coffee, 20g butter and 20g coconut oil, whisked with a hand blender. It's lovely and frothy and creamy to drink and is a great way of getting your fats up. I usually have it alone for breakfast and it keeps me full till lunch

A typical menu for me is

B - BPC
L - salad drizzled with oil oil dressing and tuna (in oil) or salmon or roast chicken leg meat etc
D - again fried mince (high fat) or chicken, with fried mushrooms, peppers, courgette etc

Basically keep your meat fatty (belly pork, leg of chicken etc)

Courgettes I usually chuck in the fat of the meat in the pan to fry it off, doesn't take long as I use a potato peeler to 'peel' slices into the pan

Have a look at others' daily menus for an idea of what they eat

Hi ho all. Been busy as so o time to post . to Hissy and Spamm. Hope you are holding up.
I'm doing ok, stuck at 185. Made amazing fat bombs, 85%choc, butter (a lot) cream(not lots) then on a whim as it was setting and still hot swirled a spoon of almond butter in. A bar of choc was 26 gms per 100gms, a poon of ab. But I put it to set in a big square cake tin. Allowed 2 suares a day.
However epic fail, I had a sample of those slendier noodles. Made spag boll for fam, I had less tomatoey serving with some. They are seriously weird and unpleasant. Upside was I couldn't eat much.
I hate coconut oil, it's too coconutty. however I like coffee with salted butter.

Thanks.
Yes I was lazy and used a jar of paste.
The fat thing is going to take a while to get my head around! Counterintuitive but I was v satisfied after breakfast.
On some low carb things I see berries are allowed, would strawberries and cream be ok or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

When I do courgette ribbons I saute them in butter unless I have them with curry. Then I do them in coconut oil and they're yummy.

hissy spamm hope you're doing ok.

Yes strawberries and cream fine although berries are really only allowed on boot camp light. I suppose it depends how much weight you have to lose to how strict you need to be. Play around with myfitnesspal and see what your daily carb totals are. To really get into ketosis where you are burning fat I think you need to keep your daily carbs under 20g. Some people are still able to lose over that though, everyone is different. If the weight is coming off nicely then you can afford to eat berries, cheese and dairy but some people find it stalls the weight loss. This way of eating takes a little tweaking till you know what works for you.

About the fat, no one was more disbelieving than me that you can eat fats and lose weight but it really is true. It's the combination of fats and carbs that make us fat. Seek out biwi's and stuntnuns excellent posts about the science behind it.

Thanks pingu all really good advice.
And courgettes in butter sound gorgeous.

spamm - I'm so, so sorry to hear your news and I hope that your DH is OK.

Apologies, everyone, for my absence. Work is all-consuming at the moment, and I also have a full schedule of evening stuff too, which is taking me away from the laptop/Mumsnet.