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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 4 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

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StuntNun · 26/05/2014 05:14

Helloooo! StuntNun here filling in for the lovely and dedicated BIWI who is off on her hols. So how are you all getting on? I'm sure lots of us are seeing the scales go in the right direction fingers tightly crossed for a pound off myself this week but please don't worry if the scales aren't budging, it's pretty common for there to be a weight loss 'pause' as your body adapts to a low carb diet. Please post your progress and say whether you're continuing on Bootcamp or Bootcamp Light. And if anyone has any questions please ask as it's great to get into the science behind low carbing so we have some ammunition against accusations of being on a fad diet.

As always, the rules are on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness and you can track your weight on the cunningly named Weight Tracker.

By way of inspiration I've put together some info on how we got into this mess in the first place...

Why do we gain weight?

Before I started low carbing I wondered about squirrels. Yep, squirrels. I've never seen a fat squirrel, have you? But squirrels, as I'm sure you know, hoard up huge quantities of nuts and seeds and store them in little caches all over the place. So why don't they eat them all? I assume squirrels like nuts and seeds and yet they manage to resist the urge to stuff their admittedly cute little faces until their food is all gone. Humans on the other hand... humans are rubbish. We eat too much, we know we eat too much, we feel bad because we eat too much, and yet we keep doing it. So why are we so rubbish compared to squirrels? The paleo/primal nutters like me community will tell you that it's because we're eating a diet that is too different from the diet we evolved to eat and that the biggest problem of all is too much carbohydrate.

When you eat a carbohydrate-rich meal, your body releases the hormone insulin to signal the muscles and liver to store carbohydrate. On a conventional diet, however, our muscles and liver are constantly kept at full capacity. Since these glycogen stores are permanently full, any glucose that can't immediately be used by the body is stored as fat. Another action of insulin is to shut down the release of fat from our fat cells so our own fat stores become inaccessible. Then when we get hungry again we eat yet more carbohydrate and the process starts again, more and more glucose is stored as fat and the weight piles on. Worse still, the constant bombardment of our muscles and liver with insulin when their glycogen stores are already full causes them to become less sensitive to the effect of insulin, or insulin resistant. The pancreas responds by releasing more and more insulin and our blood sugar levels start to drop too low as the body frantically clears glucose into its fat stores. Eventually we find we are hungry all the time, starving only two hours after we last ate. And because our blood sugar levels are low, what do we crave? Yet more carbs. So we end up trapped in a viscous cycle of carb addiction, hunger and weight gain while our ever more ample fat stores are unusable.

Hopefully this has described the process by which the weight creeps on. In next week's thread I'll put together some info on how a low carb diet reverses this process, allowing us to use up our fat stores and achieve the weight we want to be at the same time as improving our health and our energy levels and reducing our risk of diseases such as diabetes and heart disease.

Good luck all for the coming week. Onwards and downwards!

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costababe · 28/05/2014 18:13

Just back from our annual golf competition, restaurant buggered up the menu so we ended up with
Deep fried Brie salad, lamb meatloaf and potatoe gratin and mushroom sauce, yoghurt mousse with berries.
Starving now..... Not really but was looking forward to the chicken main and I bloody hate lamb!!
Good excuse for cheese and butter later!
With two boiled eggs for breakfast, and No wine as designated driver, I've done well today
Hope all is well with you all.
Glad you have a result trashy
Pleased for you and your son to be back homeHissy well done on STS.

Best1sWest · 28/05/2014 18:34

Trashy, DS had that campylobacter as a toddler. Not nice. At least you have a cause now and some antibiotics. Hope they work and you feel better soon.

I was out to lunch today with friends at Frankie -and Benny's ( it a convenient location for us all ). Menu was all pasta and pizza so I had meatballs in a tomato sauce and a caesar salad. Just hope not too much carbs in the sauce and dressing.

Am a bit down today as I am scheduled to have parathyroid surgery next month - but the Surgeon won't do it without a Sestamibi scan ( a second one as the first wasn't clear ) and the radiographer is adamant that I don't need a second scan and won't do it. I just want to get it over with as I have been waiting for over a year.

RunLikeSomeFeckersChasing · 28/05/2014 18:35

Well hello beautiful world! Day 3 and at some point today my energy left my boots. Considered run but not a great idea with my neck, even though it's improved. Today was:

B - dippy egg with asparagus soldiers (omg);
L - salmon w mushys and boursin
S - chorizo and cheese
D - yet to have but it's steak, stuffed mushroom, pepper sauce and green salad.

Think I need a big breakfast.

All organised for tomorrow food wise. Going through the freezer so it's pretty exciting! Any ideas for a pork shoulder?

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 28/05/2014 18:44

Back on it. Scrambled eggs, coffee and almond milk. Out shopping with dd,lunch at wether spoons(surprised it wasn't half a bottle of gin) , piri piri chicken skewers with salad. So far I've had about 2litres of water. Dinner is curry(from scratch, no flour or extra carbs) they are having rice, I'm having a blob ff Greek yogurt.
Friday will be interesting, day out in Edinburgh. There will be alcohol. And food, think it's Mexican, so hopefully I can avoid carby fuckerdom.

KinkyDorito · 28/05/2014 19:07

So, Day 1:

Scrambled eggs with much butter
Salad with tinned tuna, mayo, green olives
3 coffees with cream
spinach, mushrooms, broccoli, green pepper with oil (for cooking), butter and grated cheese.

Lots of water.

Dreading the carb flu as I've been an all-out carby fiend for weeks.

lowcarbforthewin · 28/05/2014 20:00

I'm feeling very chuffed tonight. Have got through the day with no snacking - didn't eat any tea, which I always feel the need to do. So I went from 12 until 7 with no food and just didn't feel hungry. I had the self pitying chocolate craving I wrote about but that was it.

I ate really quite a lot of pork crackling at lunch, and had a teaspoon of nut butter too, so I just have to work out if it was the extra animal fat or the nut butter which did this. If I could have this lack of hunger every day I think I would do better overall. I mean it has improved since starting bootcamp as I knew I wasn't eating enough fat before but this is just lack of hunger on a different scale. Makes it so much easier to avoid snacks/unnecessary food.

Breakfast was 2 eggs and a tomato
Lunch pork and asparagus, one tablespoon nut butter
Supper haddock with tahini and courgettes. Spoonful of coconut cream.

Woo hoo!

lowcarbforthewin · 28/05/2014 20:01

Oh and my plumbers finished up, except they drilled through the wrong pipe, flooded a wall and now I need to get that re plastered. Gutting.

Suzymoo09 · 28/05/2014 20:45

Stunt I'm having my cholesterol checked tomorrow so I may ask for more info from you on this, I think it will be high but will wait to see (I am not scientifically minded though)! Thanks for your posts so far.

Trash I'm pleased you're on the mend, love your posts - you should write a play you have a gift with writing.

Hissy Pleased you are home, welcome back.

Hungry tonight so snacking more than usual but allowed snacks eg ff yogurt, some salted almonds & tea with cream & coconut oil - how weird I have become in my tastes.Wink

antimatter · 28/05/2014 20:47

Great news Hissy about your son

I did my first day of c25K today.
I have been walking a lot anyway and had some issues with my loweg back before Christmas when I first tried it. I am 1 stone lighter now and with this WOE have much more energy anyway.

I am planning 3 peaks later this year and need to build some stamina for that Grin

Spotsondots · 28/05/2014 20:53

Just checking in. Sounds like people have had generally good days.

Food today:

B - ham omelette and green tea
L - bacon and goats cheese salad, tiny bit of chocolate brownie (bad I know...)
S - chicken drumstick, babybel
D - Turkey and stir fried vegetables, FF Greek yogurt

Water - about 1.5l and planning to drink the rest tonight...

Is this about right? (Brownie slip up obviously excluded). Still finding my feet a bit with this.

costababe · 28/05/2014 20:57

So just had a little snack of cheese and two slices of butter, yum washed down with two glasses of water!
Don't even miss the crackers or crisp bread now.

JimmyCorkhill · 28/05/2014 21:19

Frankie and Benny's is quite good for this WOE. I have the half roast chicken with garlic butter and swap the fries for a salad. They have real cream for your coffee too!

Hissy you are amazing to have STS. Well done Flowers. And I'm so pleased you and your DS are at home now.

Been having a few coffees out and having milk in them as I'm soooo over black coffee. Why don't coffee chains do cream

B: BPC
L: Egg mayo salad
D: Bolognese

StuntNun · 28/05/2014 21:21

Suzymoo I luffs interpreting lipid profile tests. Have you had them done before for a comparison? Don't let them fob you off with just a total cholesterol test, you need the HDLand the triglycerides done too.

DH cooked dinner and it was fried pork chop, mushrooms fried in butter and steamed broccoli. I am now starving :( not enough fat I think.

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Best1sWest · 28/05/2014 22:17

Jimmy, I have found Starbucks, Costa and Caffe Nero all do cream if you ask. Also Coffee no 1.

JimmyCorkhill · 28/05/2014 22:32

Whaat?! FABULOUS news, thank you BrewBrewBrew (all with cream!!)

Best1sWest · 28/05/2014 22:40

You're welcome Brew

magso · 28/05/2014 22:55

I've had a very odd day as my sense of taste has been affected, giving me an awful bitter taste in my mouth, worsened by food and drink, which makes me not want to eat or drink. I think it may be the pine nuts I ate at the weekend whilst travelling. Apparently there is something called pine nut mouth which can affect people 2-3 days after eating them, so the timings right. It does get better apparently. Thought i would mention it incase similar happens to others!I have been really tired and grumpy which if difficult as its half term and raining.

Apart from the last 2 days, I have been feeling rather more normal than usual (I have ME/CFS, so am accustomed to very low energy and grinding to a shaking halt if I overdo it). The changes in glucose production might be part of the improvement. Any one else with a fatigue ing condition found LC helpful?

B egg in a cup with butter
L prawn,salad and mayonaise.
D fish with taragon and beureblanc, celeriac mash broccoli and baby sweet corn, all well buttered. Smelt devine.

Yesterday I had lunch out in a harvester, had the gammon and egg without the chips and fortunately nobody commented. There was a newborn to cuddle ( not mine) so far better things to notice!

Hissy, ds was only 16 months when he was scalded, but we also doused him in a cool bath. He loved baths before the injury, but was very phobic for a while, screaming at the very idea. He soon got over it the way little ones do, and had no such phobia about paddling pools. I hope your ds recovers fully in all ways. take care of you too!

Thumbwitch · 29/05/2014 01:32

Man, what a week this has been. DS1 started with viral gastro bug on Saturday night, threw up all night until about 5am (I had next to no sleep) Then a bit more on Sunday afternoon. Off school on Monday - had no appetite.
Monday eve, DH started to feel off colour - got D&V. Had it all night.
Around 1am Tuesday morning, DS2 threw up. Luckily he has a siren wail that is different to any other cry he makes, so I got him to the bathroom just in time (well he got a bit on himself but still). He went all night until around 6:30am (I had even less sleep). He started with the D later on during Tuesday, went through til yesterday morning. Threw up later on Tuesday as well. Still no/poor appetite. DS1 refused to eat breakfast, still looked like a wan piece of chewed string so didn't go to school on Tuesday either. Dh sick as a dog most of the day too.

Ds1 back to school yesterday. DH back to work yesterday. Me - sitting waiting for it to hit me. Still waiting, although I think I might have given it a swerve (HOW???) but haven't eaten much because I didn't want to have it all to throw back! But if I was following the same pattern as the others, it should have started in the early hours of this morning and it didn't.

Net result - lost a couple of lb. But was eating carbs because they're easier to digest and less nasty on the journey back. WILL Get back on the WOE at some point! (World conspiracy to stop me!)

Hissy - glad to hear your DS is doing so well, hurrah!
Trashy - campylobacter, ugh, narsty.

Congratulations to losers, commiserations to gainers, encouragement to STSers and apols for only the couple of name-checks.

Hissy · 29/05/2014 07:25

Trashy I have no idea what campylobacter even is, but I sense that's a good thing! Hope you're feeling better soon!

I've got no appetite atm, but did manage to increase water consumption a bit yesterday, will try and get back up there today. Going to make bacon and scrambled eggs in a minute, see if that helps!

Thanks Thumb, thanks magso ds is doing so well, he's working so hard to get back to fitness. He's had to have baths to soak off the bandages, the first took a double dose of oral morphine, he screamed the hospital down :( but most of that was fear, he realised that afterwards. The second time he took the dressings off himself once he'd soaked them enough in the water.

He's still funny about being in 'the bathroom' as it was where I took him to cool him down just after it happened and where the paramedics and ambulance teams took him for more cooling before we headed off to hospital.

Early days yet, i'm focusing on reinforcing the bathroom as a place where a lot of damage was prevented. So a 'good' place, albeit with bad memories.

Thanks all for everything!

Thumbwitch · 29/05/2014 07:37

Hissy - campylobacter is the no.1 food poisoning organism in the UK. www.food.gov.uk/science/microbiology/fds/58736#.U4bVAfmSytI SCroll down for the table with the numbers - it's shocking! It's a favourite in undercooked barbecue food, especially chicken drumsticks; undercooked poultry is another top source.

Could you consider re-decorating the bathroom? Even just a different paint colour, with different towels maybe? Might be just enough change to reduce the traumatic memories.

pingufan · 29/05/2014 08:42

Hi all, been busy with the kids this week as its half term which means I've been eating on the run really, have made an effort to up the fats and have a bit less protein. Jumped on the scales this morning and another 1lb down again! That's 3 in 3 days!

Over the past few days I've had more snarky type meals but haven't really felt hungry but I know the carbs have been very low as I've been feeling slightly wired and warm (I can tell the feeling of being in ketosis) it certainly seems.to have started things again. Only thing is I've been waking up feeling slightly hungover so am trying to drink extra water

Typical meals this week
B - either mushrooms or eggs with butter
L - either tuna or eggs with cucumber and pepper sticks with mayo
D roast chicken legs or salmon with broccoli or salad and butter / mayo

Tomorrow I will have been on this WOE for 9 weeks and have lost 23lb

Good luck everyone, I'm off for a girly weekend tomorrow but will try my best to make good choices. Ill be checking back in on Tuesday morning when I see what damage I've done! Xx

WeShouldOpenABar · 29/05/2014 11:02

Thanks for the ordering advice everyone. I ended up with chicken supreme and swapped out the potatos for wilted spinach which was delicious and buttery. I had a couple of spoonfuls of panacotta though- not the worst its mostly cream and milk , i know theres sugar but it was a good choice from the options and i just had a taste.

I cant log on to the app on my phone anymore so I keep getting behind on the thread. Well done everyone with their losses.
I am not losing at a fantastic rate but my stomach has gone way down and my sister asked me where my hips were when she saw me. Also noticing my face is a bit less pudgy.

New job starts Tuesday and I dont know what the canteen situation is so fingers crossed I can keep on going.

breakfast for me was double cream with a couple of blackberries smooshed up for pretend yogurt.

lunch will be out so not sure yet

dinner is salmon with cauliflower and cheese fritters made from left over cauliflower rice, delicious.

Notsoskinnyminny · 29/05/2014 11:26

Runlike the carnitas recipe on recipe thread is delicious but last time I marinated it in the spices over night and added a carton of passata before cooking and DH said it was much nicer and not as dry and I got more meals out of it

Stunt Thanks I've updated myfitnesspal with the macros you recommended and have lost 2lb since Monday. No wonder I wasn't losing last BC I was having way to much protein and not enough fat when I looked back at my food diary.

I'm nearly at my target and meals now look like

B - BPC
S - FF yog and coconut cream
L - LMD's birdseed chicken and salad with vinagarette and mayo
D - lamb shoulder and buttery veg
S - coffee with cream

I'm off work now until next Tuesday so fingers crossed I don't get derailed by DH or snack out of boredom/procrastination from completing coursework and must make sure I drink my water - its much easier in work.

lowcarbforthewin · 29/05/2014 13:22

I want to try fried pigs ears, minus the flour. Apparently they're the poor man's scratchings and utterly delicious. Recipe here
Good day today,
B fried eggs, tomato, tablespoon coconut cream
L mackerel fillet, salad with olive oil. Teaspoon almond butter
S probably boar burger

RunLikeSomeFeckersChasing · 29/05/2014 13:24

Notsoskinnyminny - trying to find the myfitnesspal macros and failing miserably, could you share them?
Think I am probably too high on protein and too low on fat too.

Thanks

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