Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional

[EvaTheOptimist]

Thanks to BIWI's bootcamp I've lost loads of weight. I'm determined not to put it all back on. So I am now consciously trying to maintain my new weight.

I finished the last bootcamp on 150.8lb. My aim is to stay below 11 stone (154lb). Since bootcamp I have weighed between 149lb and 151.6lb. I think this roughly counts as maintaining!

My plan or experiment is to see whether basically eating bootcamp style, but with 3-4 off-piste moments per week (eg chocolate, toast, special treat meal etc) will do the trick of maintaining.

Post here to share your experience of maintaining the low carb way.

Also feel free to confess any cheating here, offload and wail in a safe space!!

I wandered round Lidl today muttering 'orgasmic duck' to myself but I couldn't find any. They only had a crispy duck on a bed of vegetables which didn't seem to be the right things . Oh well at least I got three tubs of ff yoghurt and some more olive oil.

That's a good idea Sayra

Great idea sayra - when I post mine can I have a frank opinion if the portion looks too big , I think I struggle with it as DH eats HUGE amounts and I have done for a few years
notso how lovely to be told you smell like flowers normally !

I have been in 3 supermarkets looking for coconut cream today - no joy - not to worry am sure demand will affect supply ! The biwi bootcamp effect is powerful !

stunt - lidls have stopped doing the Irish ( orgasmic) duck breast . Apparently they were too expensive and didn't sell well ??? Are they mad ?!

Peony I've never seen the orgasmic duck and I'm actually in Ireland. Humph! Oh well will try the Crabby DIY version when funds allow.

I think I must be eating too much as I've skipped lunch the last two days and not been starving. I wish I was better able to recognise the satiety sensation rather than just panicking at the hunger sensation. Just before my TOTM I get hangry if not fed frequently but the rest of the time I find my blood sugar is stable enough that I don't get so hungry I have to eat right now! Bootcamp definitely helps as the lower carb consumption seems to drastically reduced my appetite. I've noticed that on Ubercamp as well. I suspect I'm one of those people who needs their day-to-day carb allowance to be particularly low.

BIWI I am horrified that you've felt so upset! As far as I'm concerned you should have an OBE for services to weight loss and healthy eating. I will go and post a strict anti-cheating warning forthwith (unless it looks like its been done to death - I'm a bit late back to this conversation)

And Peony in that vein I don't think we should lure people (eg Trash) to this thread - Trashy is being super strict last time I read anything from her and all power to her concentrating on that.

Crabby your BBQ sounds delicious. Asparagus! Time to get that back in my life, must be the season.

DEFINITELY courgetti not pasta! I know you do feel slightly differently about it, but I doubt I will ever eat pasta or rice again. Now they just seem like tasteless fillers. If you're going to flirt dangerously with carbs, by golly make it carbs that are worthwhile, totally tasty, not boring fillers.

Hello foreskinhyena! yes no mentioning of dodgy Atkins bars on the other thread. One revelation to me on this WOE was that it was perfectly possible and satisfying to have a cup of tea WITHOUT anything on the side, however. You might not need them!

Sayra I've got nothing to take photos with (SO old-school) so please don't take it personally if I don't appear on the food photo thread.

Stunt I like the feeling of not being desperate for food between meals. But I have to balance that with the fact that most low-carb meals take a little longer to prepare or cook, not much of it is instant, so I need to make sure I DO cook in time!

point taken eva, will hold back.

Peony I've just posted the most embarrassingly strict strictness on the bootcamp thread. Now feel like I should lie low!!

Don't be though, I lurve Trashy to bits too.

Also Crabby I love the fact that it looks like you've nagged yourself into a full week-plan of low carb meals!

Peony I've bought some 8" plates from IKEA and forgot to get what I went in for as I know my portions are too big. DH always cooks steak aka man food on Fridays (the butchers choice 2 for £7 10oz rump or sirloins from asda are always tasty) and so I didn't disappoint him he's missing his special roasties I ate half and had the rest cold for lunch with some salad.

It doesn't look like Trashy is posting on the other thread so maybe she's just lurking or busy in RL, not 'seen' much of LMD either.

Thanks Eva

I was more frustrated than upset, to be honest. And I let my own irritation show a little bit too much I think. There are some things that people say that I should have learned to accept now. Like "I'm doing the Idiot Proof Diet" or "I'm a paleo eater" etc - makes me want to stamp my feet and say "but that's not Bootcamp, what are you here for?!"

Which is inherently childish and unhelpful, as well as hugely attention-seeking!!!

However, we've reached the stage where people are starting to report some significant losses, so hopefully that will also keep them more focused.

Crabby I think we should set up a Bootcamp restaurant and enslave you into the kitchen!

Yeah I agree BIWI a LC BC restaurant would be amazing

I'M HERE I'M HERE I'M HERE

I missed you all I'm soooooo sorry for my absence/lateness

I practically ran down this bloody thread, and in fact am gonna post this bit first then read the rest so you all know I'm here and I loves ya all!

That was my bastard nail painting tip peony Tchh, I wander off to RL for a few minutes days and this is my reward? Next thing I know, you'll be claiming someone else invented SMS or the low carb hakka.....

Rightyho, I have informed dp that his needyness can fuck right off, as my own needs are more important to me, and that maintaining thread awareness is more important than spending time with him fortunately he is a bit of an oddball, so he's sitting next to me on the mega sofa painting miniature figures to do some nerdy gaming with while I mn...

Fucking hell crabby I'm nodding like a twatting nodding dog at your post up top..... you are saying everything I'm thinking - love the synchronicity, and so pleased you've done us this quichey thread eva

Aaah , I'm not derailed from carbinating by being lured across here! Love how much I've been missed my darling darlings! Also, I did do some kick arse-ing on the other thread before I saw what you'd written BIWI I'm getting increasingly irritated at the twatty posting on that thread. Obvs there's much other stuff going on which I'm loving, but it's bootcamp ffs! do confessionals elsewhere! I am open mouthed at posts directly underneath tellings off which are along the lines of 'I have cheated, but I only cheated this much, as opposed to my previous cheats, which were much more' Cheating is cheatiiiiiiiiiing. Which is fine but NOT ON THAT THREAD preaches to converted with full on sandwich board and bible in hand and angry droning voice

Yes I am realising I am fanatically strict (due to my all or nothing behaviour) I even slightly panic if there's even a whiff of a suggestion of me being prevented from my eating plans (I mean in RL not on here) so woe betide any fucker who tries to get in my way. Disclaimer - this thread/hearing about it does not count

In other news - am having a friendship turmoil. Not sure what's gonna happen. To keep you all abreast of where I am in my head, this is it...

I have a very close friend who I have had a very intense relationship with over the past eight years. She helped me to see that my family was abusive/dysfunctional etc. She was really quite brutal in that helping, but I kinda needed it at that point and it helped me to escape and to 'grow my own mind'. I went nc with my family, and she has been very supportive, as has her mother.

Fast forward to now, and both our lives have changed drastically. Mine is hugely improved, and fuller etc. She has had some awful health probs and some major friend falling outs. The fall outs were a combo of things, but a huge contributing factor was this friends controlling behaviour.

It's now apparent to me that I can't sustain the friendship in the same intense way, and I have gone way beyond the need for that kind of input. In fact I am becoming resentful. One cannot seem to have a simple conversation with her, without it being 'dissected' by her, and her 'imporvements' rather forcefully suggested. She also comes out to walk her dogs whilst I do my work ones, and there are several issues there too, which I can go into another time if people need to know. The whole thing feels kind of intractable. I mention her health probs as they have 'shrunk her world' as it were, and she is more focussed and controlling of the few things left in it.

I deeply love this friend, and am aware she's going through an extended shit time, but also she is one of the friends who were attacking of my woe at the start, and often has a dig if I'm not feeling great... "that might be due to not eating any carbs" except I AM

Eeh anyway. That's where I'm at right now. Phew.....

Wtf??? Have I killed the thread....

I think I need to ubercamp to try and shift this jelly belly. I'm at a good weight but still a little bit skinny fat. I've upped the exercise for last 2.5 months (30 day shred done, Pilates and kettlebells) which has done wonders for toning my arms, legs, butt and shoulders but not made that much difference to my tum. So I guess that means I need to lose a bit more fat.

Me too, StuntNun!

at BIWI.

oh god, I stand in awe stunt that's incredible. Apparently (and I can't remember any details) it's targeted exercise for tummies - those teeny tiny crunches that aren't quite crunches iykwim? I have a friend who was so bothered by her little stubborn pot that she specially went and found out she couldn't be arsed in the end though, so can't say how it worked, but she was told to do sets of them through the day.

Trash it could surely never be possible for you to kill a thread. I was just unavoidably detained far away from a computer all day.

Brilliantly well done for staying super strict. You KNOW that if you're not feeling great it has nothing to do with being low-carb. (I know you know!) Eating low-carb is brilliant for helping me feel on an even keel and with enough energy.

Sorry you're having trouble with your friend. She does sound like she did something amazing for you a few years ago. It does sound like the roles are shifting now. I don't know about dog-walking scenarios but isn't this a good way to meet up, because you can't get trapped (dogs need to complete walk and go home etc)? She's going to have to work out that dissing your WOE is not helpful (I get stressed enough when my mum and other assorted relatives do it!).

Well as this is the cheating/maintaining/off-piste thread: I baked banana cake yesterday to use up some old bananas. It was quite delicious. And yet - I had some, but couldn't have too much, because eating it made me feel like my heart was racing and my mouth was all acidy-sugary (can't really describe). I was really torn between wanting it and not wanting it.

(If you find some wonderful online article describing what was happening to me there, BIWI, it will no doubt be v. unhealthy...)

So I leapt happily back on the lowcarb wagon-step this morning. I've spent all day at a venue that ONLY sells all varieties of carb in its cafe. (It is really quite shocking, modern society...) Fortunately I took a packed tuna-mayo salad. Eating that for lunch gave me an instant sense of well-fed well-being.

My intention for the week ahead: I have a work trip Weds - Fri, so I will low-carb Mon, Tues and start of Weds, and then be free to slightly bend the rules according to the food offered on the work trip. Not intending to go mad, given the banana-cake reaction. I will make sure my breakfasts stay low-carb because I couldn't imagine starting the day any other way.

Notso well done making the steak go further. I agree, Littlemiss is someone I look out for on the bootcamp thread.

Stunt and BIWI good luck with your tummy-fat-shifting.

I will peek at the bootcamp thread but nervously in case anyone has gone off in a huff at strictness-ness

No doubt there are people moaning and bitching about me on a corner of the internet somewhere

I have had a mixed day today, with some good bits and some very bad bits. It was my last day of allowing carbs, as I'd sort of written off the week, because we had visitors staying with us. Tomorrow is my proper start to Bootcamp.

someone go and say something nice about my cauliflower pizza!!

Hello trashy well done on being super strict, I am trying that too and have only failed with the martinis. Weighed yesterday and was 3 lbs down so hope that its the same tomorrow.

notso I don't think I've seen LMD around much either, hope she is still here, I think she did say something about the spreadsheet I think.

Was at Cirque du Soleil show last night, it was incredible. The can do such amazing things with their bodies and make it look so easy. I want a shot at the aerial silks so I'm going to see if I can find a workshop somewhere to have a go.

My back is sore at the moment and I don't know why, i don't think I've done anything to it. It feels kind of like I've been sleeping too long in a shit bed (I haven't) a sort of dull ache across the middle and up the right

BIWI they're losers if they are (and not weight-losers like bootcampers)

After I'd posted yesterday I remembered last autumn's bootcamp, half-way through there was some cheating going on and someone posted a sort of "just pull yourselves together" post and after that some people felt they couldn't post honestly. So the last couple of weeks were a bit quiet. I remembered this and hoped beyond hope I hadn't killed the bootcamp!! But it all seems quite active and upbeat so I will breathe easy.

You know you are allowed to actually talk about the bad bits on this rebellious thread if you want to! Have a tasty and virtuous day tomorrow though.

Oh, don't you worry, Eva! It's nice to have somewhere to be able to do that. I can't on the main thread. I let down my guard too much last time and it was awful!

Sayra - did you get the cauliflower pizza to work? Where is the photo/recipe?

I found it on this well-kept-secret thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/low_carb_bootcamp/2075952-Food-Photos-come-and-post-pictures-of-your-meals-here

Sayra with the pole exercises maybe you are already half-way to circus tricks on aerial silks being feasible? maybe the pole exercises have something to do with the bad back?

Sorry BIWI I was part of that awfulness. Mistook you for a goddess not a human. Sorry again...