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Week 7 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Fast Approaching the Finish ...

420 replies

BIWI · 24/02/2014 07:39

Morning all!

Hope all who are ailing are swiftly recovered.

And hope all of those who have fallen off the wagon can climb back on with agility and aplomb.

We still have three weeks left, so a chance to get shot of another few of those pesky pounds.

Here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

and here is the link to the Weight Tracker

Good luck everyone Flowers

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Sammyboy12 · 01/03/2014 18:51

Sounds lush piscivorus...ff philly soft cheese ?

Notsoskinnyminny · 01/03/2014 18:54

no need to eat the rice at all!

Looks like I'll be on detention tomorrow Blush my first beating with the BIWI stick but I am the designated driver so no alcohol will pass my lips and I promise not to fall into the bowl of prawn crackers Grin

Pisci your cheesecake sounds yummy

Piscivorus · 01/03/2014 18:57

Definitely full fat Sammy. It has a few carbs in but not many

BIWI · 01/03/2014 19:26

Please don't eat the rice, Notso - it really isn't worth it.

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BillyJoel · 01/03/2014 22:57

Superfoods- we are already eating these! I've just been reading a book called 'how to drop a decade' and the superfoods it advises we eat include most of my woe foods - check this list out ( have included the whole list for completeness and to show that most of them are that we are eating on this woe).
The list is:- almonds, beans, berries, brazil nuts, broccoli, chicken or turkey, dark choc, cucumber, eggs, fruit n veg, gren tea, multigrain bread, oily fish, olive oil, orange n lemon rind, porridge, probiotics, prunes, shellfish,soya.

I am already eating 10 of these several times a week and these form about 80% of my current woe.

Today 3 people told me i looked fabulous - not joking- and this is not something that happened 6 months ago at all. Lets keep on doing this......

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BIWI · 02/03/2014 00:04

Billy - there are lots here, though, that we shouldn't be eating on Bootcamp:

almonds, beans, berries,which beans? how many berries? brazil nuts, broccoli, chicken or turkey, dark choc,in moderation only! cucumber, eggs, fruit be very careful here - fruit isn't allowed on Bootcamp! n veg, gren tea, multigrain bread, bread definitely isn't allowed on Bootcamp! oily fish, olive oil, orange n lemon rind, porridge definitely not on Bootcamp, probiotics, prunes, also not allowed on Bootcamp shellfish, soya in what form?*

From a Bootcamp perspective this is a pretty dubious list.

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monkeyfacegrace · 02/03/2014 09:08

Gah Im really pissed off.

Went out last night for a treat for my little ds (5). I was good and had one glass of dry white wine, and a lime and soda. And at the end when we got the bill I realised the fucking waitress had given me lime and lemonade so a full bastarding pint of sugar.

and then I had tonnes of sweets in the cinema

CrabbySpringyBottom · 02/03/2014 09:43

Notso yay for your visit from the Whoosh Fairy/Hugh in her new guise. Grin

Your ex has seen his kids twice in 12 years??? What an absolute tosser. Angry I just don't understand how people can treat their children like that. Sad

Eva well done on organising the protest. I wouldn't have wanted to speak to the press either so I don't blame you for that one bit.

My current exasperation with xDP is after an email from him describing the events leading to DD losing a ring of mine which I gave her to wear because she was upset about being away from from me. I don't mind at all about her losing the ring btw - I wouldn't have given it to her if I couldn't bear to lose it. I'll do a mini AIBU here and see what you think of this.

This is part of what he emailed me...

DD... "was desperate to go swimming afterwards, and I urged we go to a beach that was sheltered and which the locals said had nearby rocks with lots of sealife to look at; but it involved a 400 meter walk past a beach that had some 3 - 5 foot surf. [DD] kicked up a fuss about wanting to swim NOW and, tired as I was, I agreed. Once we were in it was fairly fun, but the waves were quite ferocious in the shallow water and [DD] got knocked off her feet. And kept getting knocked off her feet. Meanwhile, I repeatedly told her to get into deeper water (4 - 5 feet) because the waves were gentler there, but she ignored me (she later said she hadn't heard - but at the time she certainly gave no indication that she wasn't understanding what I was shouting to her) and then, after finally getting dumped again, crawled up onto the beach and sat with her head in her hands" ... "and that was when she informed me she'd gone into the surf wearing the ring... and had lost it." ... "Anyway, she was really, REALLY upset that she lost the ring, and was concerned you wouldn't hug her when she arrived back in London (it does seem she doesn't feel all that secure in your affections)."

To which my first thoughts were...

Don't 'urge' - tell her that you're going to the safe beach, FFS. It's very simple... “The water here isn’t safe. Either we walk to the calm bay or you don’t swim at all.”

If you were telling our child to go out of her depth in 'ferocious' surf, why the fuck did you have to shout to her - why were you not RIGHT FUCKING BESIDE HER TO KEEP HER SAFE?! Hmm

I've always had this morbid fear of DD having an accident with water as she loves it but isn't a great swimmer. xDP always takes her on holidays which involve water, which is fantastic for her but terrifies the life out of me.

And thanks so much for implying that I've caused my child to feel insecure in my affections. Confused

I resisted the temptation to reply with my first thoughts. Grin It took me all day to compose a measured and non-blaming response. I wrote this...

"I feel a bit hurt that you seem to be implying that I’ve caused [DD] not to feel secure in my affections. Hopefully that’s not what you meant.

[DD] gets very very upset when she thinks that she has made a mistake or that she will be in trouble. She doesn’t seem to understand what she’s likely to get into trouble about and what she isn’t... for example when an ornament my mum had bought her got knocked onto the floor and broken by a falling book, she was distraught and begged me not to tell Gran because she’d be really angry with her. It took lots of reassurance that of course Gran wouldn’t be angry with her because it was an accident. On the other hand, she doesn’t understand why I get cross when yet again she puts a mug of tea on the carpet and it gets knocked over, because I’ve told her hundreds of times not to put mugs on the floor. She can’t seem to predict the likely consequences of her actions, nor predict the likely reactions of others. It’s very confusing for her, I think.

I’ve been reading about executive function and how difficulties with it are a feature of Aspergers. It’s been quite enlightening.
musingsofanaspie.com/executive-function-series/

DD has a lot of difficulty with delayed gratification and with predicting what the outcome will be of a situation. It means that she wants what she wants NOW and can’t sort of cast her mind forward to see the end goal (I’m not very good at that either). So she sees the sea and wants to swim straight away and can’t rationalise (especially if tired) that it’s worth a bit more effort (walking, which she hates) for a better result (sea life, which she loves). Reasoning with her doesn’t work a lot of the time because she simply can’t see it until it happens. I don’t have all the answers, I wish I did, but in my experience I have to be very very firm with her a lot of the time.
“The water here isn’t safe. Either we walk to the calm bay or you don’t swim at all.” That’s it – stark choice and no argument, and certainly don’t give in – it just stacks up trouble for next time. She’ll kick up a fuss but that’ll all be forgotten by the time she’s swimming around in calm water looking at fish. Afterwards she can always see the logic of why I insisted on something, but at the time she’ll fight tooth and nail to stay in her comfort zone/go for the immediate gratification.

The successful dolphin trip sounds amazing. What a great experience for her."

So Bootcampers, Am I Being Unreasonable? Grin

CrabbySpringyBottom · 02/03/2014 09:48

Epic post! Bet you wish you hadn't asked now Eva. Blush Grin

MyPreciousRing · 02/03/2014 10:13

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MrsHerculePoirot · 02/03/2014 10:26

Crabby YANBU. Fact.

BIWI · 02/03/2014 10:35

I'm impressed by your restraint, Crabby!

Eva - really well done. Good for you to organise something like that

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Thumbwitch · 02/03/2014 10:43
CrabbySpringyBottom · 02/03/2014 10:47

Precious thanks, I realised as soon as I'd posted it that I missed one. Reported it immediately.

Thanks both. This is really a minor thing, but there have been so many mishaps because he gives in to her, even down to him puncturing the blisters that he'd caused with the iodine at the beginning of the trip, introducing an infection risk and necessitating plasters which she then had an allergic reaction to. The first time he ever took her abroad (she was 6), he got her all kitted up in swimsuit and swim shorts, then put sun cream on her. She kicked up a massive fuss about not wanting to swim with the shorts on, and in the end he gave in. He was so stressed out by that point that he forgot to apply cream to the bits that had been covered by the shorts. She was so badly burned that she couldn't go in the sea for most of the rest of the holiday and when she came home ten days later still had purple blisters all over her buttocks. Sad

She's a very strong willed lass, and you have to be very, very firm. I think it's difficult for a non-resident parent to do that, sometimes, as they don't get as much time with the child. He's a good man and we all make mistakes with our kids, so I bite my tongue as much as possible and let him run the show when she's in his care. We have a very good relationship now which we've worked very hard to create for Dd's sake, so I have to sit on my control-freak tendencies as much as I can. DD has Aspergers and I'd bet my life savings if I had any that he does too. The more I read about AS, the more I realise that if I'm not actually on the spectrum then I'm certainly very near to it. We're a strange little family, apart from introverted but totally normal DP! Grin

BillyJoel · 02/03/2014 10:58

Biwi- you are dead right about the superfoods. What i was trying to say but obviously failed to do, was that i am doing the ten that are good for bootcamp and not the rest which are not part of this woe. But the ten i do eat are superfoods - just confirmation that this woe is very very healthy. I am not touching the ones you highlighted in bold - i just included them to show the whole list of superfoods and that we are eating a lot of them anyway.

BIWI · 02/03/2014 11:00

Oh I see! Grin

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Thumbwitch · 02/03/2014 11:01

Bloody hell my puter is up the spout today! Missed crabby's epic post before I wrote mine.

I agree, YANBU - if anything, you're slightly more restrained than you could be, given the danger he seemed to be trying to put her in!

LittleMissDisorganized · 02/03/2014 11:31

Hi everyone,
Have had a lovely bit of time with my DH finally not working the weekend and me feeling better. We went to a Hickory's Smokehouse yesterday (think they may be a NW thing??) - brilliant LC-friendly menu (very meaty) and so nice we sat in the sun and I had a lovely meal without "cheating" - fab.

Crabby I think that's a completely reasonable reply and very understanding actually considering how you must feel.

I'm plodding on, gained 1/2lb this week (Sunday weigh in) but lost good amounts the 2 weeks before so I'm assuming this is just the trend and normal fluctuating. Maybe we need "Don't Panic" written in large friendly letters on the cover of this thread a la Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy!

Notsoskinnyminny · 02/03/2014 11:40

Crabby YANBU - as a mother of an aspie I can easily imagine DS being distraught over losing something and my ex reacting the same way and telling people DCs are terrified of me etc but the reality is that aspies only see things at points 1 and 10 on a scale of 1-10 there's nothing inbetween. Likewise with the swimming they need flexible instructions otherwise they do exactly what they're told - mine was an angel in supermarkets when he was little because I used to say to him stand by the trolley and don't move and he didn't.

Ex worked away for a couple of years before we split so I had very clear boundaries for DCs but he'd come home and contradict everything and DS would be so confused so him not seeing DCs has made things easier. DD definitely has some tendencies and DH laughs at The Bridge and says he'll tell me when I'm 'doing a Saga' so I must have too.

Last night's chinese was horrible. We cancelled last week's reservation because DH had manflu and when we tried to rebook the restaurant's closed for a refurb. We went to a local one, recommended by colleagues, but apart from the soup and duck which I ate without pancakes or sauce the rest was grim so I just picked bits of meat, the rice was disgusting so DH pinched my mushrooms.

Eva well done on the protest, we lost our battle despite lots of brownfield sites in other parts of the town that need regenerating as 'executive houses on the greenbelt mean an extra £2k+ per house in council tax' - I hope our local councillor isn't re-elected in May.

CrabbySpringyBottom · 02/03/2014 12:51

Ah thanks everyone. Smile No one ever said this parenting shit was easy, did they.

Notso Grin at you 'doing a Saga'! I love The Bridge but I did think that Saga was a bit of a broad-brush stereotype of someone on the spectrum, especially as females tend to present in much more subtle ways than males. Funny, poignant and very well acted nonetheless though.

Unfortunately DD does not present with unquestioning obedience and adherence to rules - I wish she did! She'll also lie through her teeth if she thinks she can get away with it, when honesty is usually a feature of people on the spectrum. Grin Anxiety is a big issue though, and exactly that 1 or 10 on a 1-10 scale that you describe.

If any of you ever want to track a flight, or show your DCs, this site is brilliant - I can see where they are, what height they're at, how long they've been in the air/got left in the air, when they're due to land, everything! Shock I even know that they're on an airbus, one of the huge double decker ones (which I've never been on, my child is now officially better travelled than me Hmm).

Miss so glad you're feeling better - you've had a crap old time of it healthwise lately.

Lighthousekeeping · 02/03/2014 12:59

Before me I have nine Krispy Kreme doughnuts and a fresh cream birthday cake the size of a coffee table. I have to face this temptation at least once a week. Its so bloody difficult because I'm such a greedy pig.

Thumbwitch · 02/03/2014 13:05

Lighthouse, why is that? Are you the office cake-keeper?

Crabby - that site is ace, I'll link DH to it so he can see where we're at when flying back to the UK without him (again) in April. :)
I've been on an A380 - worst flight of my life, I got altitude sickness! luckily DS1 was asleep while I suffered, they had to get me oxygen etc. Apparently, 3 other people also had it that flight. There were other bad things that happened as well, but the altitude sickness was the worst.

Lighthousekeeping · 02/03/2014 13:13

Because people very generously gift us. I think they feel sorry for us working on a Sunday. It's always chocolate, cake, doughnuts etc

GatoradeMeBitch · 02/03/2014 13:18

Wow Crabby, I have a diagnosis of Asperger's, but I don't know too much about it. I only read the main book by Tony Attwood. I have to read about this 'executive function' because I do things like that all the time!