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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

716 replies

BIWI · 03/02/2014 08:28

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection Grin

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

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ElBombero · 03/02/2014 22:32

After doing a "refeed" (massive cheat) today I'm dairy free for 3 days, super strict on carbs and bucket loads of fat. Bring it on, little weigh in Friday?? Xx

prettybird · 03/02/2014 22:35

When making the coleslaw, I should admit that when I don't have shallots, I do occasionally use a finely sliced spring onion Blush. I reckon the smaller quantity that I use compensates for the higher carb count Wink.

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 03/02/2014 22:39

1lb off for me this week. Am content with that. This way of eating gives me such pleasure and 8lbs off in 4 weeks. As they say around these parts: tidy mun.

Celeriac. Seriously, where has this been my whole life!! Dinner tonight for the whole family : celeriac and garlic mushroom gratin (inspired by a nigella express recipe but substituting the potato element), meatloaf (inspired by nigella kitchen recipe but subbing pork for beef, Tabasco for worcestershire sauce, leek for onion, pancetta for bacon, added some cheese but the boiled egg but was just as per the recipe Grin) and cabbage.

'Twas delicious.

:sighs contentedly:

ChippingInWadesIn · 03/02/2014 22:41

Dunno about the refeed guys - I'd proceed with caution, it certainly didn't work for me!

Prettybird - I don't think there'd be any difference at all and spring onions are much nicer IMO

NellVarnish · 03/02/2014 22:43

Aaaarrrggh I'm shit at this woe. Did great till I spied a bar of chocolate in the cupboard and without a second thought, wolfed it down. Blush I'm v ashamed and disappointed in myself.

But.

Tomorrow is a new Dairy Free Day with my comrades, so bring it on!

Mini weigh in Friday ElBombero!

Night all, dream dead good dreams :)

ChippingInWadesIn · 03/02/2014 22:45

Oh I have STS - have not shifted so much as a lb since starting on the 7th of Jan. No idea what is going on but I'm a non egg eating vegetarian - so it's a whole different ballgame. I may write a book when I get 'Low Carbing for Non Egg Eating Vegetarians' sorted out Grin There is nothing out there for 'us' - but I suppose it's hardly surprising (and I have never been able to lose much weight on any diet, despite having plenty to lose, so it might just be a 'chippingin' 'thing' too :( ).

BIWI · 03/02/2014 22:48

Re eating out - it's very hard in chain restaurants. Most menus are built around carbs of some kind, especially when they are basically sandwich-type places e.g. Subway and all the burger places.

But if you go to more restaurant-y places, there is usually some kind of salad option - and don't be afraid to ask for what you want, i.e. no potatoes, or wine vinegar instead of balsamic, or a salad instead of potatoes, etc

Avoid coffee shops like the plague, as there is literally nothing you can eat there that isn't full of sugar/carbs.

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ElBombero · 03/02/2014 23:13

I know don't know of I agree really just an excuse, if not stepped outta line and was craving sugar so bad. Had a day of it, feel like shit now and can't wait to get back on the bandwagon again just hope carb flu isn't as bad this time Hmm

trashcanjunkie · 04/02/2014 00:35

Had a bit of a weird old day today. This morning we ate (dp and I) scrambled eggs with just butter/no cream and a sprinkling of parsley, then went and bought some amazing new boots for work - scarpa walking boots, not glamorous in the slightest, but so fucking comfy

Then dp and I took his mum food shopping, and gave her a crash course in lc bootcamping - that is a whole other post as I'm never quite sure what motivates her Hmm

After work I met up with a couple of very dear friends. One of whom is significantly overweight, and she basically had another attempt to derail me from this WOE. She has a diabetic son and manages his illness wonderfully, and feels she knows all about carbs/sugars etc, which I'm not disputing, but she was literally freaking out at me - I didn't want to argue, or defend my position, and I ended up shedding a few tears in utter frustration. The other friend just sat there, not saying anything, and actually went as far as telling us she's not saying anything because she massively disagrees with what I'm doing. I felt so fucking ambushed. Normally these two people are the most important people in my life when it comes to opinions, but on this subject we clearly differ. I don't even want/need their support. I wish they would shut the fuck up and let me be. I kept very quite about the fact my weight hasn't actually changed, as they'd possible swallow their own heads in disbelief.

Lunch was a bag of porky scratchings and a tin of mackerel in sunflower oil.

Dinner was a handful of kale fried in butter, with a couple of lamb thingys that aren't chops??? roasted with mushrooms. Greasy gorgeousness

Have drank 4.5l water and two massive cups of hot water/peppermint tea.

Ruprekt I'm with you on the no dairy. C'mon Chester whaddya say eh? eh? Grin oh good, you are in, along with some others nell?

I will clean everybody's house I am completely frigging manic at the moment - just need to wait for fingers to return to their actual normal size, and for some new skin to grow over the ends

MrsHughJarse I will lick up the builders dust as long as it's carbs are lower than 3g per hundred Grin

Pissing laughing at little johnny

sayra what a little nobber the guy sounds like. I'd want to do a violence on him Grin

ElBombero · 04/02/2014 03:52

Trash can Thanks

That the thing about this WOE, it's just so against the grain isn't it. TBH I'm sock of talking about it to people as no one gets it. I keep referring them here but no one comes so they might half assed do it for a few days but not properly so no results. Attitudes about it :-
"You on that Atkins? He died of a heart attack you know"
"It'll all just pile back on when you introduce carbs"
"You on that diet that makes your breath stink"
"It's not good for you El"
FUCK OFF!!! Gonna stop telling people. Least they know about this WOE, more people to make my loss look all the better (so there!) GrinGrin

sybilfaulty · 04/02/2014 06:45

Sorry things are tough with your friends, TrashCan. So long as YOU believe in it, I would ignore what others say. This is all healthy, wholesome food that our grandparents would recognise. Not full of additives, fiddled around with, pretending to be something else food. We know it works and it is healthy. Ignore what the naysayers think. TBH, I thought Atkins was bad for you til I read a bit more about the science behind it. We are so programmed to think about low fat being good for you - even the lunchbox police suggest diet drinks ! Madness. stick with the thread girls and you will be fine. Never complain, never explain. Just smile serenely and have some more water Flowers

I am 1lb up. Bugger. My own fault and I know why, This week - no wine. I am not going out til Wed 12 so have a good few days to have a clear run at it.

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PseudoBadger · 04/02/2014 07:00

Went back to strict bc yesterday and have had a 3lb woosh overnight! Very pleased! I ate:

B - 2 x boiled eggs with butter
L - tuna and mayo with salad
D - chicken 'cordon bleu' (mozzarella and ham in a chicken breast, fried then finished in oven), buttery leeks and broccoli.
S - 5 Brazil nuts
D - water, and only 2 cups of tea.

Not sure what I'll have today but there's plenty in the fridge.

Seri77 · 04/02/2014 07:07

After STS yesterday I re weighed today. 0.5kg/1lb down. That must be fat. Yay! I've not amended the spreadsheet.

I may celebrate by freeing the celeriac from the fridge. But first, fried mushrooms & bacon with soft cheese stirred through.

I'm so sorry some of you are getting a hard time about this WOE. I tend to say I'm just cutting out processed crap and upping my veg but still get offered some foul low fat yogurt or a lecture. I'm perfectly capable of being assertive but I shrink from causing offence. Like Sybil says how can unprocessed home cooked food be a worse than something full of chemicals from a lab?

StuntNun · 04/02/2014 07:08

TrashCan I tend to tell people that what I'm doing isn't as low carb as Atkins. I think a lot of people assume the

NotTwit · 04/02/2014 07:43

Hi all. I suppose people find it easier to accept my 'odd' woe because I can't eat wheat and most stodgy foods. It's only getting rid of rice and potatoes for me ( along with some veg and fruit). If people ask, I'm just 'cutting out the crap' and they all seem to be approving.
DH worries about the butter, but I remind him I'm not eating sugar and have to get my energy from somewhere (still bfing). Also remind him that I'm drinking loads of water to help wash it away hehehe. Anyway I tend to use olive oil around him sometimes and add butter to mine ( without him realising) so he relaxes a bit.
For example yesterday it was spaghetti Bol night; I cooked the mince with mushrooms and leek, put mine in a separate pan with spinach and courgette spaghetti and added a small amount of the sauce to mine (sainsburys basic, pretty low 9g per 100 g I think), then added the rest with other more carby sauce to theirs.

I know, I know, but I'm no cook, and they eat healthily enough for me to be ok with them not following me exactly although they often do without realising fshpie, cauli cheese etc

Being skint has it's advantages, I ne'er eat out, so no worries on that count for me.

EwanHoozami · 04/02/2014 07:48

Trashcan That was a rotten thing to happen, no wonder you feel unsettled. I suppose it came from a caring place from your friends, but it sounds awfully controlling. As the others say, smile, don't engage and be confident in your choices. Thanks

Eating out - coffee shops are a bit of a nightmare. Their margins are based on stuffing cheapo carbs with sugar and making a giant profit. It's not my most on-plan solution but if strong-armed into a Starbucks for lunch I'll sometimes just accept that they don't fit with this WOE and have a black coffee and maybe some of their almonds and pick up something appropriate later.

My success with this WOE has been based on keeping control of what I'm eating no matter what inappropriate choices I'm faced with or whatever anti-LC comments I get. I realise that makes me sounds like a right smug twat but I know that this works and is a sustainable, healthy choice, and only I can make it work for me.

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jill36 · 04/02/2014 08:18

Morning everyone. I'm on day 6 of LC and have been following you all since Sunday. Noticed yesterday some of you were talking about eating more fat. After being a Slimming World member on and off for 10 years it frightens the life out of me. At this moment I have 3 rashers of bacon sizzling in butter and the fat from the rind. I know to make this WOE work I have to add it to my eggs to make an omelet.

I started LC last Thursday weighing 158lb - Monday morning 154, today 155.

Today's meals look like this:

Breakfast
Bacon and egg omelet, Coffee with cream
and a pint of hot s/f black currant and apple squash. (it's lovely)

Lunch
Tinned mackerel in brine - veg bake. 2 pints hot black currant

Tea
Minced beef sprouts/broccoli and cauliflower (I use frozen veg)
S/f jelly and cream - 2 pints hot black currant

I'm going swimming tonight

bettybigballs · 04/02/2014 08:22

Popping in to say hello, will do a proper post later this morning, just to say sorry to hear you're getting shit trash can. It's hard when you're do ganged up on.

I've caught yet another bloody cold, second in five weeks. Feeling absolutely dreadful. Luckily I can go back to bed for an hour before I need to start work. Going to try and create a spicy tom yum soup later to make me feel better.

Happy Tuesday, onwards and downwards.

PseudoBadger · 04/02/2014 08:26

Welcome Jill36 :) Nice to have you here. Have you read bootcamp rules? Unfortunately squashes are out...

HeirToTheIronThrone · 04/02/2014 08:40

Hello Jill and other newbies!

I am still feeling hideous - think it's your actual flu rather than the carb kind... Last night having eaten nothing all day I had tomato soup and a little pot of rice pudding Blush Together that's about 50g carbs, but as I had nothing else all day except water I hope it's not done too much damage. Anyone got any tips of LC comfort illness foods?? I thought maybe cauli cheese.

Woolfey · 04/02/2014 08:42

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Gerrythetootallgiraffeswife · 04/02/2014 08:45

Thanks for the yoink back onto the wagon everyone. Still feeling grim, have some robutissin, hadn't occurred to me to put it in hot water, good idea I'll do that (can't remember who suggested it, I am yet to master super posts!)

To try to get my 1lb gain due to cake out of my head, I've just measured myself. I started a lowish carb diet on 5th nov, had a v carby Christmas, and have been on bootcamp since 6th jan. I have lost 19in in total since then! 6 from waist, 5from each thigh!! Stubborn hips/bum are as stubborn as ever with only 1in gone, and 1 off each arm. I'm starting to see the difference in my face as well looking at photos, and my mum pointed out yesterday I've stopped wearing 'smock type' tops. I am officially re-energised and inspired. Which is good, because I'm off to mother and baby group now. And I will definitely refuse the biscuits!!!