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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

716 replies

BIWI · 03/02/2014 08:28

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection Grin

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

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AthelstaneTheUnready · 05/02/2014 18:51

Me! Me! I'm the mixed dolphin pose lady, LittleMiss

That wine caught up with me I'm still a few lbs down but with a belly like a small football .

Woolfey · 05/02/2014 18:57

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Notsoskinnyminny · 05/02/2014 19:04

Woolfey the outside doesn't get hot and they don't take up much room on the worktop - the diameter of my 6l one isn't much bigger than the 3l one. But I know where you're coming from, I remember the nightmare of having a small kitchen and being terrified one of the kids would fall against the oven door - in the end I got ex-h to take the kitchen door off and fit a safety gate.

ThatYoghurtWontPotItself · 05/02/2014 19:33

are you able to store the slow cooker elsewhere when you're not using it? i find it takes up no more room than the toaster when it's out, and though i put it away between uses it could easily stay out most of the time because i use it 1-2 times a week

mine does actually get hot on the outside - not so hot as to burn but hot enough that you don't want to touch it. you can push it right to the back of the worktop though?

it is bloody fantastic. i have ox cheeks from waitrose which cost less than £5 for a kilo that i'm going to do at the weekend

humanordancer · 05/02/2014 19:39

Inspired by the cheesecake accident thread - and with a sudden and desperate urge - I just mixed up some cream cheese, coconut oil and vanilla powder and it was, well, quite cheesecakey.

I think I might try a lemon version. Or some shaved dark chocolate.

ChesterDrawers · 05/02/2014 19:56

Oh dear god, you all need to stop what you are doing right now and go and make the corned beef hash recipe. It is amazing, so lovely and comforting. I am feeling all warm and fuzzy inside.

It's made loads too, plenty for three people. I will take a portion for lunch tomorrow and might scoff the rest out of the pan right now.

So, what are you all waiting for? Off you go!

Lovecat · 05/02/2014 20:22

Ooh, Chester, that can be my lunch tomorrow, ta:) I would make it now but I am replete with roast lamb and cauli cheese. God it was gorgeous...

What is this accidental cheesecake of which you speak? :o

CalamityKate · 05/02/2014 21:13

Ohhhhhhh I'm hungry!

Maybe I should have had more strips of belly pork. It wasn't very fatty. Next time I'll buy the fatty stuff.

Shall I have a bit of corned beef?

NellVarnish · 05/02/2014 21:18

I'm going to attempt to do a Crabby style five million word count post ...

Have just read through the thread since I sneaked in guiltily last night and I'm so touched by all your replies and encouragement - j'adore you lot.Thanks

Crabby thank you so much for the immediate reply - I went to bed smiling instead of greeting, and you are absolutely right, today was a new day.

Thank you MyPrecious, I was much better today - felt a bit more positive and was feeling a bit better too so that helped - must've picked up a bug from the kids at school.

Chester! I nearly didn't post last night at all! Felt like skulking away as there was me encouraging you to stay and then I bloody well fell off the wagon, some LC buddy I am! Blush

I'm back on the wagon monkeymax! Thanks for the lift :)

Woolfey thank you for your wise words! I know you're right. Thanks

God it's getting like the Oscars now

Can always rely on you Pistey for a hug and a boot up the arse - it's like when I fell off the c25k wagon all over again. Grin

Eva I loved your post - I need to print it off and keep it in my pocket, it's brilliant. Thanks My lightbulb moment was looking at my ancient visage in the mirror and seeing how puffy it was, and don't talk about the rest! I've always loathed having my pic taken even when I was thin, but now I run a mile not literally as that would probably help. I'm going to a wedding in April and I want to feel nice, so that's my short term use goal. I don't want to be dodging the camera and hiding behind pillars anymore. Grin

New motto for everyone courtesy of Eva:

Take care of yourself and look for the lightbulb.

Hope - I was you yesterday - it will be fine, we all have momentary blips and we are all here for the same reason. This is one of the strengths of MN, the support when you need it, the wise words, and the kick up the arse. Grin

Omg am I at the eleventy million word count yet? No? I'll just spout some more shit then ...

I want a mandolin - what is it and which is the best one please?

Why can't I be as good at cooking as the rest of you? Unless it's easy and quick I really cba and that's my downfall. Boredom.

I'm going now as I'm boring myself, god knows how you feel!

But seriously, thank you all Thanks.

NellVarnish · 05/02/2014 21:26

Well done to everyone who's sticking at it and losing!

I might give the corned beef thing a bash Chester.

I the celeriac remoulade thing sounds tasty - but it looks a bit faffy. Maybe I need more gadgets? Grin I've just bought a julienne peeler.

I've just been eating mainly tuna salad, salmon, roasted broccoli, celeriac chips, creamy cabbage, cauliflower curry, the odd egg (not over keen). So I need to up my game.

Also cooking for DH and four teens. That's why there's chocolate and treats and the like in the house. They're all supportive though - DH is a bit bemused tbh, but that's his default mode generally so nothing new there. Grin

EvaTheOptimist · 05/02/2014 21:32

Nell Grin

Tea how on earth do those scales know? surely they lie.

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ChesterDrawers · 05/02/2014 21:46

Aw, welcome back Nell, we all have bad days. Glad to see my LC buddy is more positive Flowers

Definitely try the corned beef thing, was lovely and dead easy. Lots of the recipes on the recipe thread are pretty simple if you give them a go. I'm pretty handy in the kitchen but CBA faffing in the week so have found some of them really useful. Have a look.

I also love my julienne-er, but beware, tis very sharp!

Suzymoo9 · 05/02/2014 22:11

notsoskinny - I agree coconut oil is too pricey in H&B but I found some much cheaper in the health food shop (still about £8 but I am finding it delicious now I'm used to it and it's a good fat source)

MyPreciousRing · 05/02/2014 22:14

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rusmum · 05/02/2014 22:16

Hi can I join in? Where are unles please!?

rusmum · 05/02/2014 22:16

Rules Wink

BIWI · 05/02/2014 22:20

There's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness in my OP, and if you look at the tabs at the bottom you'll find the rules Smile

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bogie · 05/02/2014 22:28

Just weighed in and I have lost another 4lbs this week, so that makes is 11lbs in 3 weeks :-) perked up what was otherwise a horrible day.

ElBombero · 05/02/2014 22:38

KTC coconut oil is in my local Tesco for £2.70!!! 500ml tub Grin

teaandthorazine · 05/02/2014 22:39

Not a very successful day all in all. Half the problem is that I've barely eaten anything, and having knocked myself out of ketosis with pepperoni flipping pizza a couple of days ago, I'm finding it a bit hard to get back into it again.

B: protein shake, tea, spoonful of coconut oil
L: aforementioned stick of satay, quarter of a chicken salad sarnie, ridiculously tiny slice of melon
S: bulletproof coffee
D: mushrooms and spinach in butter with Boursin stirred in. Two squares 70% choc.

And then two slices of toasted fruit loaf [bangs head against wall]

And not enough water.

Still, at least the headache's gone!

I can't wait to see what the Scary Science Scales say tomorrow Hmm

Sorry for shit shouting. Am knackered and off to bed.

Keep on truckin', as pretty much no one ever says...

ChippingInWadesIn · 05/02/2014 22:39

Hi all :)

EvaTheOptimist - if I said that, she would look at the cheese/cream/yogurt/butter and say 'I really don't think that's helping do you?? Let me make you a nice salad' or 'let's have some wine & crisps' Grin She really really wont 'get' LCing, but If I was losing weight, she'd accept it (iyswim). It's hard because she means well - if she was just being nasty I'd tell her to do one, but she's not.

Not to mention I would like to lose some weight please!! I wanted a realistic stone and a half this bootcamp (given my weight that's more than reasonable). It is week 4 and I am still the same. Sigh. I wouldn't mind if it was 'cheating' or 'being pretty good' - but I'm not, I'm being Very Good, full on hardcore Bootcamping Good.

Crabby - I haven't found any good low carb veg websites.

B - usually - a whole avocado, olive oil, Food Dr Savory Seeds and sometimes a chunk of cheddar < depending on whether I'm avoiding dairy or not>

2 cups of coffee with double cream

L - usually - Rocket, raddishes, mushrooms, (egg free mayo & oil) and basil infused tofu & FD Seeds. Sometimes some cherry tomatoes (3.5g per 100) or some green pepper.

D - Courgettes, brocolli, spinach in a cheese sauce (cheese & double cream, with black pepper and mustard powder), 'chicken style quorn' (1g per 100g) plenty of oil and butter to cook it, brocolli stems & mushrooms fried in butter with a bit of oil.

Or

Celeriac mash (butter, butter & more butter dash of cream ton of black pepper), marinated tofu pieces (1g/100g) brocolli/spinch wilted in butter.

If I snack it's olives, almonds or occasionally a slice of cheese.

Minimum of 2.5l of water - aim for 3.5-4

I've tried upping the fat but can only do it with more cream really - it made me feel very sluggish (or it was co-incidental) will try again next week maybe.

I've tried cutting back on veg portions but that involves being hungry (which isn't much fun) & didn't seem to make any difference.

I've tried eating as much as I wanted as long as it was low carb.

I've tried making myself eat breakfast (Bootcamp) v allowing myself not to eat breakfast (Briffa)

I have had one glass of wine since Jan 7. I've had had a bar (50g) of 85% Lindt chocolate since Jan 7.

I've tried moving the scales Grin My jeans are tighter now than on the 7th of Jan, my tummy is 'fatter' and I have no energy (same as ever).

I honestly honestly believe that if you are a meat & egg eater you will lose weight doing this & you will be heathier, I just can't get it working for a non egg eating vegetarian :( especially when people keep kidnapping the woosh fairy.

I ate a lot of carbs over Christmas and I was 'due on' when I started, so expected a woosh - not a thing. I have my period again... maybe when it goes it will take half a stone with it - that would be nice Grin

CrabbyWinterBottom · 05/02/2014 22:44

Ok Woolfey I will try to devise some simpler ones. Smile Can you not prep yours and DH's when you're cooking for your DDs, and then leave it cooking in the oven until 7.30? Then all the food prep is out of the way and you can put your feet up with a Wine instead. Wink

I echo what everyone else is saying about the slow cooker, too. They get warm/hot on the outside but wouldn't burn you, and don't take up much counter space. I wouldn't be without mine, we use it loads. There's chicken stock bubbling away in there at the moment.

Notso my cauliflower cheese is mahoosively cheesy, I have to admit. Grin

Ewan I want some crustless spontaneity! Grin

tea what a shitty day. I well remember the hell of tube strike days. Hmm

Nell love your oscar acceptance post. Grin Glad I helped last night. The reason I cook so much is very simple... I'm greedy and I love to eat good food. Wink That's it really; the payoff exceeds the effort required. Having said that, I would very happily eat spaghetti and cheese every single day, and that's as quick and bland a comfort food as you can get. Confused

Sal sorry you've had a shitty day. Flowers

Food today
L - courgette, tomatoes and a rasher of crispy bacon, swimming in homemade pesto. For whoever was saying they were having trouble getting enough fat in without meat - make some pesto. I do make mine with cream cheese and mozzarella in too though, so extra creamy and cheesy.
S - butter and marmite, spoonfuls of the stuff, straight from the pack/jar. Blush
D - leftover chicken dolphin pose pie with roasted broccoli
P - yoghurt with cream, flaxseeds, berries and vanilla
3L water, 3 cups of tea, only one of which was strong breakfasty type tea. Am trying to cut down to two a day but compromised by having darjeeling and earl grey.

For the last two nights have developed a pounding frontal headache in late afternoon that's lasted all evening. It's not dehydration as I've been drinking loads. Most unpleasant. Thought it might be low salts, hence the marmite, but didn't make much difference.

CrabbyWinterBottom · 05/02/2014 22:51

Oh Chipping it's not bloody fair, is it! Your menu looks fine to me. Can BIWI or other wise campers suggest anything? Have you tried the low GI diet in the past? You've lost weight on previous bootcamps, haven't you?

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