Where have all the fit, interesting and available men gone (pt 17)

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Has no-one beaten me to it yet?

Juicy sounding good.

WG old friend is worth seeing again.

Second not to arrange a meet up without me. Maybe down south in May.

'shit of the month' - is that on this thread?? would love to know.

LAst boyfriend was literally, a god. My gosh, he was just beautiful. Thing was he knew it. I knew he had a reputation but kind of didnt mind. I wasnt surprised when it didnt work out. I wish it had, but, he was sooooo way out of my league, i spent the whole time pinching myself to see if i was dreaming.

hair, ok, might not have been THAT bad. teeth were, i just didnt look/focus on them.

Hiya, just a quick visit from me to say hello and to give an update from Lou at her request.

She tells me things are still going great guns with the mechanic and they have a completely gorgeous new puppy called Dora who is apprently taking over the house

Things hunky dory with me atm although just had massive bill from VM thro the door so bit shell shocked from that.

DJuicy do let me know about that night out.

Right off out now to see a pal. I'll do a proper catch up later.

yes, russel brand naked and gift wrapped would be good.

;)

Of course thats what i want.though i do suspect that might be unrealistic.

Ill see him again for sure.... not least because he was a fab kisser. he kissed my lips, my neck, my face, my eyes, my head, my hair.
all in a first kiss.

In a NICE way. not a slobberly letchy way.

lol @ kdk
yes that award was created yesterday aft.how shoddily eve was treated
the award is a specially crafted golden turd
hopefully will be dropping onto said nobber's doormat any time soon

tbh i can't do bad teeth but bad to me is v discoloured and stumpy
ewww i'm thinking shane mcgowan now

yep VM have raised their prices got my letter thru the other day
glad to hear that all's good @ lou towers and i knew she'd get the kids a puppy,bet ds2 is thrilled bless him!

no, they arent anywhere near that bad.
he didnt have any missing ones
they were all normal coloured, quite white actually.

just... wonky

confidence .. agree with eve - you like his personality and let him kiss all those places in one kiss

2nd date is a def yes.

and the date with the gums .. had bigger gums than teeth.. in all his photo's he was doing closed mouth smiling

janos - i'll msn you? just pick a wkd in march that suits you

hey ladies.... got some flowers just delivered... cant find out till late tonight what i've done to deserve them

oh missed the bit about lou's new dog. kids must be thrilled

oooh lovely
somebody's keen on you juicy lol

Who are they from Juice?

Nice to hear about Lou's puppy, she is braver than me, bet the kids are made up.

I'm at home today still in my dressing gown and just cannot be bothered to get dressed let alone do anything productive. Feeling a bit down tbh. Got a rare night out planned on Saturday night. Going for a nice meal then round the pubs, might even persuade the girls to hit the cheesy nightclub.

What's VM btw?

Just a bit of advice needed about something I mentioned briefly earlier. This years holiday. It might be possible to get away on my own for a week in the summer. TBH I really could do with the break. DD and I are so close but I'm trying to help her cut the apron strings and be more independent, it's important that she tries to gain more confidence to mix with her peers as she lacks it for some reason. Anyway, I've told Turkish Delight the resort I'd like to go to and he wants to meet up! Considering how he's hung on in there and that I am the only non turkish person on his facebook list, I'm thinking it might not be such a no go area.

I'm OK to travel alone but don't want to look like a Saddo by being totally alone. What do you think?

vm is virgin media at least that's what it means to me!
hol sounds good idea
never holidayed alone tho
i think if you get on with him then that's fine but what if things go wrong?
for some reason i've a mental pic of poor shirley valentine being badgered by that irritating couple who felt that she shouldn't be alone!
v dependent upon how you feel tbh

I have travelled around the world on my own in my younger days and since child went for a week away when DD went on another trip so I am quite used to fending off unwanted 'friends'. Usually meet other single people, hence meeting him.

Will start having a look at hols, it might work out OK.

something to look forward to!

@ eve - how well do you know turkishdelight? only asking because my xh is turkish and I've spent a lot of time in Turkey around turkish men and bar one or two I have serious trust issues with most of them especially regarding western women ...

and I got a message this am from some guy off soulmates - on which I headline my profile 'what's a girl got to do to get a message on here' which I checked using my blackberry so couldn't be arsed trying to reply using minute keyboard - have just had second message basically saying 'Becaus you don't bloody reply' and blocking any messages from me. What is it with guys and their tantrums???

Bit disappointed as he was fairly attractive, seemed intelligent - and described himself as 'laidback'!!!

I don't know him very well at all. Met on holiday last July. He is muslim but not practising, works in the city, and was on his own holiday with a friend at the same hotel. Kept in touch via facebook, chat and emails. His English isn't brilliant, nothing over the top just how are you etc. He is a lot younger than me. Started chatting as I nearly fell over on the pebbles in the sea. I had noticed him in the hotel and wondered if he had noticed me too as I saw him shyly looking.

I am not under any illusion that by meeting up again we will have this special relationship and am aware that part of the attraction is I am western so therefore have looser morals. I did go to his room but didn't go all the way.

To me it would be a holiday on my own but with the advantage of spending time with a male adult. I haven't made my mind up and anything could happen between now and then.

I would welcome your input on this kdk as you have first hand knowledge. Do Turkish men not have any chance of sex unless they marry? Would someone educated really want to target an older western woman for a visa. I know its a cliche but wasn't sure it really happened in this day and age. What do you think his motives might be?

eve - i have a bit of experience with turkish too.

they can get sex before marriage. and it's not frowned upon if the males do it. but it is very frowned upon for the women.

sadly there are still alot of turkish blokes who come over here. get married to uk older women. then once they have their right to live here... they get divorced and get themselves a virginal bride sent over from turkey.. and they still do the dowry (not sure if its called that in turkish circles) where money trades hands for the wedding to go ahead.. under the pretence of it being a wedding "gift".

i was seeing a turkish bloke about 6 yrs ago. who was here studying. my knowledge comes from that. he considered himself very lucky to be allowed to stay here till his degree was over without pressure for marriage. but said it was expected of him, one way or other, to accept a turkish bride who had been chosen for him and would be sent over.
i never really believed him till he showed me the letters and photo's of potential candidates... well actually.. i knocked over a pile of mail and pics came spilling out and he had to explain what they were.

flowers are from forces dude i assume from the wording on the card.

Thanks Juicy for your insight. I am not the naive type who would entertain the idea of him coming over here to live. Also the fact that he is younger doesn't really register as it's not that unusual whatever their nationality. I am looking on the bright side of it that if he is prepared to meet me at the resort I've chosen on his precious holiday, then he is only expecting a nice time with someone he is attracted to, has a good chance of intimacy and not much more. What's the economy like there. Do they think single mum from the UK as having money? It's always 50/50 with me.

eve - wasn't at all implying you were naive. but you were asking "wasn't sure it really happened in this day and age."

the way you are going about it is very sensible and i dont see any problem with it.

I knew you weren't. If I decide to go then I want to go with my eyes wide open.

Hi eve - I hate to say it but would take most, if not everything, he says with a pinch of salt. Yes, they do target older women for visas/money and they can be quite happy to take a very long term approach if necessary.

Double standards are alive and very well in Turkey regarding sex (and alcohol and smoking). Often Turkish men will tolerate behaviour from western women that they would not tolerate from Turkish women - something I sadly have first hand knowledge of.

I know of situations where the entire and very extended family have connived/colluded with what was essentially a visa marriage while the guy concerned was already Islamically married (nikah marriages are not really legally recognised in Turkey but are pretty prevalent nonetheless).

HOWEVER, if you just want a holiday fling and know that you can keep your feet firmly on the ground I'd say go for it .... Turkey is a beautiful country and it's one of my great regrets that under the present circumstances, I'm highly unlikely to visit there again. Whereabouts are you thinking of going? Also if you need/want any more info (hints about Turkish village wedding planning?) let me know.

Also would check before you go, what the money situation is going to be - I've heard of women going to stay at hotels with Turkish guys (and you'll need to check whether a hotel will allow you to stay with a Turkish male to whom you are not married, believe it or not some won't) who thought they were going 50/50 and found out on the last day that they were expected to pay for everything!

He might be an absolute angel but forewarned is forearmed and all that! If he starts spinning on about sick relatives run like hell!

Hi im phil a full time single parent and the problem i find is that most women are not interested in me because im a full time dad of 2 and the ones that are seem to be happy sitting on benifits the rest of there lives and have no get up and go

Good info there kdk. It was Oludeniz that I was thinking about, must admit all this has put me off. He said he lives in Icelmar (sp). Looking at his fb photos seems to back up what he says he does for a living. Smart car and clothes etc. Maybe give it a miss.

Hi to Phil. I haven't met any men who have DC's full time. It wouldn't have put me off when my DD was little, might do now as I am getting my own independence back. As for staying on benefits. There are lots of us on this thread that combine work and care of the children who use benefits as a way of getting back on their feet.

hi phil - a bit of a generalisation you have made there.

i assume since you have such a low opinion of women are claiming any government help while they are a lone parent that you dont get any help at all?

that aside... where are you looking? tried any dating sites?

what are you looking for in a relationship?