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How much maintenance does you ex provide?

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muddykittenheels · 19/07/2012 01:08

My soon to be ex H is suggesting £400 per month for 2 teenagers - is this reasonable ? He earns about £65000 per year and I earn about £22000

OP posts:
Lovemy3kids · 19/07/2012 10:21

Muy ex agreed to pay £450 per month for our 3 DC (14, 10 and 7) - which i found acceptable but the arse hasn't paid anything for the last 6 months! You can always go onto the CSA as they have a calculator in which you can work out what they would recommend him paying

PostBellumBugsy · 19/07/2012 10:30

That looks very low to me. According to the CSA, which is the minimum contribution you can get, for two children it would be 20% of your ex's net income. His net annual income will be approx £45k, 20% of that is £9k PA, so monthly that should be more like £750. That is a very rough estimate & I think they take pension contributions into account as well. However, looks like £450 is well down on what he should be contributing.

PostBellumBugsy · 19/07/2012 10:31

Sorry, looks like £400 per month is well down on what he should be contributing.

LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 10:37

Ds gets nothing at the moment. He's 13, and his father decided that he didn't want to pay any more as Ds didn't wish to see him after his father shouted in his face and swore at him the last time he saw ds (18 months ago). Hmm

£400 doesn't sound enough to me. It goes on his earnings.

PostBellumBugsy · 19/07/2012 10:41

LadySybilde - go to the CSA. Your ex can't just opt out of paying because he & your DS had a tiff. The CSA will pursue it for you, you just give them the details.

MrGin · 19/07/2012 10:46

It depends on how many night they stay with him also ( reduce by 1/7th for every night per week ? )

I have one dd and on 50k pa I contribute £500pm. I also fully intend to contribute to school trips, school clothes, classes etc when dd is at school.

LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 10:52

I have. They can't do anything as he's not in the UK (Irish republic). I have to go to the magistrates court and get a REMO order against him. My sister and I think it's because they now have 2 children (they had another one at Christmas and didn't bother telling ds for months) and he needs the money for himself. I've tried speaking to him nicely about it, he won't reply to my emails/texts and won't return my calls. I resorted to asking his sister for help, she muttered on about the exchange rate, risk of redundancy etc. Hmm Means naff all to me when I'm going without food as I've given it to ds.

MrGin · 19/07/2012 11:08

Why is this in One Child Families when OP is asking about two teenagers ?

PostBellumBugsy · 19/07/2012 11:09

Maybe OP misread it as one parent families?

WkdSM · 19/07/2012 11:20

My DH has been paying just under £800 a month for 1 child via CSA.

It is not about how much it costs to keep a child - it is about taking a % of wages - higher earners pay more as the child could be expected to benefit from the increased income if they still lived together as a family. Equally, lower earners pay less for the same reason.

Just like a mortgage, child support payments have always been considered a primary monthly payment in our household. I heartily condemn all those NRPs who dodge paying or put their need for fish or gym membership before paying child maintenance.

OP - suggest you discuss the CSA payment structure with him before he commits to other outgoings (rent or mortgage) basing his ideas on paying £400 a month.

3teenhell · 19/07/2012 11:23

i get £200 for 3 children, two are now teenagers.
Have asked for a increase to be told no i can't afford it. Wanker

3teenhell · 19/07/2012 11:23

oh and i'm guessing slightly but must earn in the region of 40k

msrantsalot · 19/07/2012 11:24

I get £19.71 a week so think yourself lucky

PostBellumBugsy · 19/07/2012 11:30

It isn't about being lucky - it is about getting a percentage of the non resident parent's income to support the children. MuddyKitten should get a 20% contribution of her DCs Dad's income, which works out at coming close to £750 a month if he has them for less than 52 nights a year. A significant improvement on the £400 he was proposing.

The CSA have calculated a minimum percentage - some lNRPs choose to give more than that.

3teen, have you contacted the CSA?

wannabedomesticgoddess · 19/07/2012 11:33

£20 a week.

3teenhell · 19/07/2012 12:33

yes i have in the past, but he was self employed and cooked the books, the CSA couldn't be bothered with it.
I tried again when he changed to being employed, he denied he was working and said living off savings (!!!)

May try again as he feel i earn more ( um no) but even if i did its not about that its a percentage of what he earns.

I worked it out i get £16 per child per week. So thats their lunches covered then and maybe 2 dinners, lets hope they don't need things like clothes!

msrantsalot how many DC is that for?

NaturalNatures · 19/07/2012 12:52

Mine gets nothing, CSA were beyond unhelpful and ex thinks it's all a great laugh.

You should be getting a bit more than the £400 in relation to his income, hopefully the CSA are helpful for you but agree if it's not straight forward for them they drop it. Could you speak to a lawyer as well as you'll need to take into account access, clothing, uni fees, excursions, extra curricular activities etc etc.

3teenhell · 19/07/2012 13:29

CSA are useless and not interested in my experiance if not simple.

oh well the DC know he is a loser anyway ( and i've not said a word)

I even got a text this week that said am not fussed if they cometo see me or not, charming

MirandaWest · 19/07/2012 13:43

I get around £350 a month for 2 DC from XH but varies as due to my work he has rhem more some months and each month I calculate it based on the CSA guidelines.

MirandaWest · 19/07/2012 13:46

I assume on getting everything DC need ie clothes, paying for childcare etc although XH contributes to birthday and Christmas and gets them some clothes.

OliviaLMumsnet · 19/07/2012 21:09

Hi
This is in lone parents now

kinkyfuckery · 19/07/2012 21:16

Your income bears no relevance at all. Neither does your outgoings (just in case you try to have this conversation with him, it's not taken into consideration at all)

He should be paying you 20% of his net income, minus 1/7 for each night per week the children spend with him.

I get £35 a week for two children. A pittance, but unfortunately it's relative to the pathetic, unambitious, worthless bastard's his wage.

Meglet · 19/07/2012 21:51

yes, he should pay 20%.

I get 20% of XP's money through the CSA, which incidentally I have never had a problem with. 6 weeks from first phone call to first payment. Shame the Tories are about to destroy it .

STIDW · 19/07/2012 21:58

£65k gross a year = £3,700 net a month without making any allowances for pension contributions.

Under the current CSA rules that would work out at £740 a month if the non resident parent has no children in his household and there are no overnight stays.

If the non resident parent has three children living in his household and your children stay more than 175 nights in a year that figure would reduce to about £580.

Apparently the average CM liability paid through the CSA is £33.50 a week, or £22.50 if those cases with no liability is taken into account, and 40% the cases where there is a liability it is for £10 or less.

LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 22:01

How does that work if the tosser ex has other children? It seems unfair that the first child should have reduced maintenance because their father wishes to have more children.

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