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Der Herbst ist da - wir wollen aber kein Regenwetter: Life in Germany cont/d

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finknottle · 19/09/2008 08:20

Too lazy to scroll through the other long one.

Here for Obst und Blaetter - guess what d came home from school singing yesterday?

All welcome, Austria & Switzerland & any German-speaking Leute too

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taipo · 11/11/2008 10:08

Good luck with the flight, theGabster. Lol at surpressing memories of flying on your own with dc, MmeLindt. I've done that too, especially the long-haul flights to and from Hong Kong which I did a couple of times on my own (with the dc). Never again!

Also got a Siemens hoover here - 5 years old and still going strong, when it gets used that is.

Didn't go on a Martinsumzug this year but my two are now past kg age so don't feel too bad but I think they would have liked to make lanterns. I forgot about it though

admylin · 11/11/2008 10:09

Are you doing a German Christmas on teh 24th then? I can't bring myself to give the dc their presents on the 24th! Doesn't really matter though as no one is German in our household.

Gracelo · 11/11/2008 10:12

Admylin, I really can understand the dilemma your husband is in. It took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that I had to go into industry if I wanted some sort of stability for my family. I would still prefer an academic career at a university.
I don't mind the Scottish rain usually. I lived in some pretty rainy places since I left Germany (NZ and the Pacific North West) but I miss proper heat during summer.

Gabster, I was on a plane with my 10 month old baby in October and the flight attendants kept offering hot water to me for the baby, even when I told them that I breast feed. That was KLM but I Lufthansa does that too. It shouldn't be a problem with any of the non-budget airlines. KLM doesn't have presents for children though, dd was greatly disappointed.

hupa · 11/11/2008 10:20

We celebrate on the 24th unfortunately and it still doesn´t feel right. I don´t like the fact that you have to get through the whole day before you open the presents and then the dc are too tired to enjoy them. Mind you we don´t decorate the tree to the 24th which I used to hate, but now actually enjoy. We then make popcorn and watch Polar Express to get in the mood. As soon as it gets dark the in-laws arrive, we open presents and then eat - usally fondue or raclette which don´t really take any preparation.

However, I always save the stockings for the 25th because of my memories of waking up to a filled stocking at the end of the bed. Dh says Germans have Nikolas for that, but I keep telling him it´s not the same.

admylin · 11/11/2008 10:24

How do you do it then Gracelo? Still like in your childhood? My h can't get into the swing of things at all because he grew up in a muslim family and he just doesn't get the special feeling I want my dc to have about waking up on Christmas day. I do understand him because one year we were in Bangladesh over Eid time and all the dc were excited and happy, dressed in their best clothes and they were all celebrating and giving each other gifts but I didn't get it.

taipo · 11/11/2008 10:33

We have the same dilemma here. Basically when we spend Christmas in Germany we open the presents on the 24th which feels all wrong to me, and when we're in the UK we open them on the 25th which feels all wrong to dh!

Admylin, I think I feel the same way about Fasching as your dh feels about Christmas. I didn't grow up with it so it always seems rather alien to me and I have to say I feel a sense of relief when it's over. Perhaps I'm just a killjoy at heart

MmeLindt · 11/11/2008 11:33

We do a mixture of British and German traditions.

We open the presents from the German relatives that the Christkind brings on 24th. The rest of the presents are opened on 25th, they are brought by Santa

I like it that way, it is special for everyone that way. We make a light meal (well, not light as such as my MIL normally made Bratwurst) on 24th and have the turkey dinner on 25th.

Last year at my MILs my SIL decided that she wanted the turkey on 25th and took some talking around. She can be quite stubborn and gets what she wants but I stood my ground.

Having a look at hoovers still, not so much choice here in CH

Gracelo · 11/11/2008 12:07

We do Christmas German style when we are in Germany (as we will be this year) and British when we are in the UK. I do make a goose rather than a turkey even when we are in the UK but dp prefers goose to turkey as well.
I will try to sneak some NZ Christmas food in and make a Pavlova for desert this year. My family will like it, I'm sure. I have successfully introduced mince pies to Lower Frankonia.
Which reminds me of a question I forget to ask: Has anybody taken Christmas crackers on a plane? Can I do that, or will they set of the explosives alarm? I would have them in check-in luggage.

TheGabster · 11/11/2008 12:19

LOL at no presents for DCs on the plan Gracelo!

We have a Siemens too Mme, and it has lasted 3 yrs so far. Replaced dyson which was good with dog hair etc, but we blew it up. Got a new engine but then we blew up the motorhead so replaced it and the new one picks up hair fab! And thanks for the tips.

Infact thanks for all the tips everyone. Feel thoroughly supported and a lot calmer about it all now (love MN).

I mean, I will have DH with me so its not like I am halling 2dcs on own transatlantic or anything (sounds stressful taipo and mme) but I know DH will be useless because no matter what he says/thinks - once we get to that check-in desk he will be a bundle of nerves until we collect our bags again.

Going to take a carton (will try one of these good night ones tonight as never know, might mean a lay in tomorrow!) and the powder too so I have all bases covered. The AntiReflux milk that is. Have obtain a maclaren too, and am flying Lufthansa as friends does this trip with them all the time and said if you tell them at check in you want to dump it/get it back at the aircraft door, they will do it as its so small. Kewl.

Have decided need to make room for all the stuff I am bringing back too, so forced to munch way through whole bag of giant chocolate buttons and some twiglets today!!

MmeLindt · 11/11/2008 12:57

TheGabster
I don't know what airline you are using but I flew with Ryanair and German Wings when ours were babies and even took the big prams (Graco or Teutonia). It was much easier with the little folding, but I did pack some stuff in the pram/prambag. I think we had 8 tins of beans in the pram bag once.

I just ordered a Miele hoover. They are a wee bit more expensive here than in Germany but not much. I laughed at the Listenpreis of 657chf, most of the ones I saw online were between 350 and 480chf. Who believes the listenpreis anymore?

TheGabster · 11/11/2008 15:18

Hey Mme - sorry meant to say, flying Lufthansa. Flight leaves 6 ish and stupidly looked at the landing time of 7.20 and thought "no worries, can stretch DS past his normal 7pm bed-time and will hopefully fall asleep in car". We have a 4hr drive to Cardiff you see. Then of course, after I booked it, realised it will feel like 8.20 to him as this is UK time!! D'oh. Can't believe I made such a stupid mistake. Never mind, we will manage I'm sure.

Oooh, Miele hoover, dead posh. Sure you can't go wrong with one of those though! Sound like you got a good deal too.

MmeLindt · 11/11/2008 17:28

Gabster
If you are very lucky he might just drop off to sleep on the plane for you. You can do that with a wee one.

We looked at flights for next year (DB's baby is to be christened sometime) but the only flight available cheap enough was landing at 9.20pm UK time. I would be flying alone so that is definetly a no-go.

It now looks like the christening will be on the day after the wedding rather than in April as I cannot get cheap flights. It was going to cost over 900chf just for a weekend.

Saying that, SIL has invited me to her henny night so I might have to fly over for that. Joy of joys, she has booked tickets for Boyzone

TheGabster · 11/11/2008 19:25

Boyzone? Somehow that's not the sort of person I had you pegged as, I can't think why .....

Flight times are a pain sometimes aren't they. I had to search ages for the ones I got. 900chf - is that about 600eur? Phew, that's a lot for one ticket! I normally fly with sleazyjet because it is just sooooooo cheap and my parents live quite near to Stansted - I can get the bus from the airport to their town in fact. Am really looking forward to posh Lufthansa flight !!

Do you get on with your new SIL then? Is she nice? My brother re-married a few years ago but hardly get to see new SIL being out here. Looking forwarding to getting to know her when we move back.

Gave DS the carton of "schlaf gut" milk cold as a test tonight and he took it no problems. Didn't finish it mind but that's another problem entirely. It is really thick too, similar to the anti-reflux stuff we use, so no sickies either. Phew!

Would be great if you are right Mme and he falls asleep on the plane. Fingers' crossed.

MmeLindt · 11/11/2008 19:34

I am not at all a Boyzone fan, but that is what SIL wants and she is an absolute anti-Bridezilla so I am fine with that. She is a sweetie, I like her a lot. She sent me an email last week, "Hi Sis" I was quite touched.

I just had a slight panic as MN was not working, had to be tonight when DH is not home so I could use the pc in peace without him moaning.

He said recently "Why do you have to use the computer in the evenings, you could use it during the day, you hardly ever MN during the day, do you"

Of course I don't

TheGabster · 11/11/2008 19:49

Yes, funnily enough DH is a bit anti-MN as well - well anti the time I "waste" on it anyhoo. Apparently I am always spending all my time on the phone or MN-ing. Because obviously the housework fairy cleaned the floors today, the dinner fairy visited too, Aldi delivered and I have a nanny to look after DS all day ......

ErnestTheBavarian · 11/11/2008 21:26

do you think you could send the housework fairy and the dinner fairy over to mine when she's finished at yours

FiveGoMadInDorset · 11/11/2008 21:30

Hi Ernest, just checking you are Ok and that you and yours are well.

ErnestTheBavarian · 11/11/2008 21:35

hia smelly nappy mesh We're all great, thanks, dd is and angel the week sare whizzing by just so quickly, I'm trying to savour every second. How are you? How is dorset? And how is ds (and dd of course?)

FiveGoMadInDorset · 11/11/2008 22:35

Good, Dorset is great, Antigua next week will be better DD is lovely DS sleeping through and lactose intolerant but a very happy chappy.

finknottle · 12/11/2008 08:52

Gabster, some more positive traveller's tales. I've flown alone with the children on average 4 flights a year since s1 was born (now 11), flown pg with toddler, pg with 2 toddlers, with baby & 2 under 5's - all combinations and only had 1 really bad flight when the boys were 1 & 3. We had to transfer at Stansted & the terminal trains weren't working. 8 million people squashed into the departure lounge, 2 hot & tired boys who kept falling asleep. Didn't have the buggy as found when I did, we'd get a climb the stairs arrivals or/and departure gate. Didn't make that mistake again.

The staff were great, esp on Ryanair. Will happily slate some of their practices - esp the new "pay to board early but children & babies take their chances not to get crushed by the hordes policy" but couldn't have flown so often all these years without them.

Staff were without fail helpful and friendly, mostly without my having to even ask. That nightmare connection, both boys howled the whole way Stansted to Dublin and promptly fell asleep as we came in to land. The girls were sympathetic & one came to tell me not to worry, one of them would carry one of the boys off the plane as I couldn't carry both!

It's even easier now they're all older, but I do breathe a sigh of relief when we get to our destination. This year s1 was so much more of a help, checking screens, holding bags/passports etc. and it also stopped him whining/showing off, he felt so grown up. We have our customs of buying half of WH Smith at the airport & over-priced crisps & 7-Up on the plane for good behaviour at the check-in & gate.
Also, if you fly with special teddies (and even s1 at 11 still does) keep them in your hand-luggage. 2 yrs ago we had a dramatic flight back to Germany after Christmas. Couldn't land at Frankfurt as there was too much snow so flew on to Köln. On the flight I came down with a stomach bug my nephew had had and kept throwing up. There was a really nice English woman from Luxembourg who looked after me and the children while we waited 2 hrs for our bags. Turned out the bags went back to London - and we then had a 2 hr bus ride back to Frankfurt, I stopped throwing up and s2 started and we arrived at Frankfurt about 4 am.
Was v impressed to get our bags delivered by courier on Jan 1st but the c had been worrying about never seeing the teddies again.
They remember that trip as a great adventure I reckon after surviving that, I can survive anything!

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TheGabster · 12/11/2008 09:01

WOW - well done for surviving fink!

admylin · 12/11/2008 09:05

It doe sget easier as they get older doesn't it.

I've just had the fittest heating man round for an hour. The company they use for our flats has all fit, young guys working for them (must be part of the Bewerbung bedingungen) the last one was even fitter, made him a coffee and then he sat on my sofa and chatted for 15 minutes when he'd finished. Nice start to the day, think if h looked like that I'd even be prepared for morning sex!

Off to the shops now, we need to get a garage space booked because I can't use the car in the morning or up to 3pm as I'd never get a parking space in the week. There are loads of spaces but the klinik and office people use them in the day time. So I'm still trailing my groovy granny trolly around to go shopping.

finknottle · 12/11/2008 09:21

Amazing what you can cope with for 5 days at home
Thinking about that and all the trips makes me realise how great the children are on the whole when we travel. Must praise more.
And that I prefer flying on my own to going on the ferry when we go with h. Hate the smell of ferries and that Stena seems to be more like a floating Macdonalds these days.

Am cross now as have checked the booking & realised h booked the day ferry to save 100 euros, 6 hrs v boring on a ferry, whereas on the night ferry, you eat, sleep, wake up and drive off. Worth 100 euros to me tbh and we'd have had a whole extra day in England

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finknottle · 12/11/2008 09:23

at admylin and the 'hot' heating man!

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admylin · 12/11/2008 10:19

Not so hot - I've got back from the shops and the heating won't switch off - I'm boiling. Wich I was brave enough to drive to UK. Which port do you get off again? It would be so handy to have the car over the holidays too. I suppose if someone met me at the port and took over the UK part of the drive I'd be OK.