If you could move abroad right now, where would you live?

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So I got back from holiday this week and I really , really didn’t want to come home. if I won the lottery I would definitely move abroad.
So just being nosey, if you could move abroad tomorrow, where would you like to live?

We would go back to Mexico in a heartbeat

Anywhere that isnt Scotland.( I live there at the moment)

Iv'e lived lots of places abroad but prefer the UK

Genuinely wondering @dementedma , what’s so bad about Scotland 🤔.

I live in Switzerland and whilst not perfect the general standard of living is very high. It’s a visually spectacular country and my city is absolutely spotless. The outdoor lifestyle really suits us and we’re really happy.

If you can go, go!

Today the Scottish Assembly voted that male sex offenders and rapists could legally identify as women and have access to womens prisons and changing rooms.

16 year olds,who cannot legally buy alcohol or have a tattoo, can be mutilated and rendered infertile by the state.

I'm out of here.

I feel the same.

Vancouver in Canada. If I could take my whole family, I’d move there in a heartbeat. Fantastic city, by the sea and by the mountains

I have lived abroad previously. As a result, I have concluded that England is better than many places, and is my home.

So I would like to remain in England, but with a winter home in Spain. If it doesn't happen though, that's OK too.

@@atomsgirl is the UK in it's current state better than Spain? I've got a friend who moved to Spain from the UK about 3 years ago and from visiting and speaking to him I can't see any advantage to the UK.

Lower cost of living, still in the EU, far superior public services, health service, public transport. People are lovely, food. Weather.

I'd be interested in your experience. Imo the UK is on course for a long slow decline. Been mismanaged for years and brexit is the nail in the coffin. Wages have stagnated for 15+ years, broken education, health service, transport, etc etc etc.

For those miserable about some of the awful implications happening around the GRC in Scotland, it's happened or is about to happen in a number of different western countries.

I'm not convinced the rUK will escape it either.

I had no idea until a few days ago what the implications were about in relation to the GRC. I'm now horrified how this whole thing has evolved, and that you get shut down if you try to discuss any concerns in a public domain.

@Amboseli I did live briefly in Spain in my thirties - and I loved it! I also managed to get my Spanish to a level where I could get by.

But like everywhere, there are somethings that are less than perfect in Spain that comes apparent when you are not just there on holiday.

Are you interested in living in Spain? If so, I really would recommend doing it - with the obvious caveats of finding a decent job, or you are retired with money (which you'll need to get the relevant visa anyway).

What is GRC @atomsgirl ?

@TheGander The GRC is the gender recognition form. With this, people can update their birth certificate to reflect their identified sex rather than their biological sex. With the birth certificate, they can then update their passport etc.

On the surface, this sounds great to me.

I'm sure we are all aware that those born of the male biological sex are faster and stronger than those born with the female biological sex. There is nothing we can do about this fact. It's also more common for biologically born men to abuse biologically born women than for women to abuse men.

Nevertheless, for someone to gain the GRC in Scotland, no medical checks are required, and previous convictions aren't considered so a male paedophile or a rapist can obtain the GRC in a very short period of time. These types of men can then say they are a woman, and go into women only spaces such as prisons, hospital wards, women's refuges, etc. And biologically born women can do nothing about it.

Not only that, Scotland has also said that those of the age of 16 can medically transition to their identified gender without parental consent. Some medical changes are not reversible.

If anything factual is incorrect with the above, then please correct me as I've only known about this for a short period of time, and I live in England.

Really? What do you prefer about it?

Ah I see thanks for explaining atom, I’d heard about that in the news and was surprised at how low the bar is in Scotland for changing gender. Apparently the SNP pushed it through partly to make themselves look progressive in contrast to the nasty reactionaries south of the border- but maybe that’s just the paranoid Englishwoman in me speaking!

Sweden are Canada, we are planning on seriously looking into moving, Sweden is easier as two of us have citizenship and its close to the UK, but we do wonder if we would prefer Canada despite the distance.

We’re in Sweden at the minute as my husband owns a property here, we’re hoping to spend as much time here and in Canada as we can this year to hopefully help us make a decision.

You can walk to places, there are bus services (mostly in towns and cities) which you can use, so don't have to drive everywhere - I've been to USA, Aus, even had time in Canada - distances are v big and you ahve to drive all the time (maybe some cities have good buses but Houston certainly didn't).
There seems to be more stuff to do - book clubs, embroidery clubs, knitting groups, art classes, yoga classes, meditation groups, french speaking class, all within half an hour or maybe 45 mins from where I live here.
I just found much less in the US. I have rellies in Aus and distant ones in Canada.
I like gardening - would depend on where you are but there are also more nasty spiders/ scorpions/ poison ivy/ jiggers /snakes which we don't have.
Temperate climate - unless you are a wooss you can cycle, walk, climb 12 months of the year - even swim outdoors.
Lots of history from prehistoric to present day. Lots of museums of anything you have an interest in ( though obviously might have to travel but you can travel along way and back in a day in teh UK). Art galleries, Theatre.
Good comedians. Good food can be found. Varied restaurants.

Varied scenery in a relatively small area and changing seasons.

At the moment, I lean towards northern Portugal and the NW corner of Spain, Galicia. It's green because it gets the Atlantic rains, and I don't enjoy weeks of 40C+ termperatures. And I live in Cornwall so I already have all the wet weather gear a person could desire. It's very similar to where I live now, with better weather. And no, I've never been there!

New Zealand. Not necessarily forever, but for 5 or so years. It would have to happen soon though, before parents get too old.

Australia

Vegas. but that is mainly because my closest family member my cousin is there and i know he would always be there for us. plus would never get bored so much beautiful scenery and mountains and not too far from other sights on the west coast. seriously thinking of going after son finishes gcses

London but I live in Australia and have never been to Europe or UK

Bermuda would be nice.

More realistically, Milan.