I hate, hate, hate Australia

[Einsty]

So this is an unashamed venting thread, so back away now if you would love to live in Oz or do, and love it.

Short story, back a year after a decade in the UK and am still adjusting, I guess.

Aus has changed a lot, and mostly in ways I don't like. Just want to get a few things off my chest so I can stop muttering and get on with it.

First whinge: service - Australians think they are famed for it, but it is almost universally shit. Unattentive, almost resentful, and clearly beneath the person working in a shop, funky cafe or suburban small business. Want to go elsewhere because they haven't looked at you when serving you, or acknowledged keeping you waiting, brought the wrong order, not brought your order, or overcharged you. They couldn't care less.... And then I keep hearing how dire things are in retail. Any wonder!?

Second whinge: racism. I spent a decade swearing it didn't exist in multicultural Australia. Does it what? I hear curry muncher and noodle all the time.

Anyhow, that is two off my chest - I just feel that Australia is so busy boasting about itself and being self congratulatory that it is failing to realise it has taken it's eye of things that count - like truly world-class childcare and education. Standards are low and I reckon we - because I am now here for good unfortunately - will eventually regret how smug Australians are...

Sorry, came too late to the thread a few weeks ago to but in but have wanted to vent ever since...

Why, user?

Einsty - do you think you might be suffering a bit from reverse culture shock?

It took me a good three years to get past my RCS - it was very hard.

I was gobsmacked at the amount of racist shite coming out of the mouths of 'cultured' and educated Australians. I wanted to move there but after a while this alone got me scuttling back to the UK.

I do have Australian friends who aren't a bit racist but they all insist they'd never live there again.

Did this zombie thread really have to be dredged up NOW? Six years later?

Old news everyone. Move on FGS!

FFS, didn't realise it was a zombie thread.

Why not just start a new 'let's have a rant about how crap Australia is' thread, user?

I'd probably take the PISA rankings with a pinch of salt.

Why? Because the stats don't support what you think?

Also, user, I don't know how you could have things so wrong if you're Australian and had only lived in the UK for two years. Things don't change that much within a country over just 2 years; that oversupply of teachers and the problems behind it didn't emerge in 2 years etc.

I think he said he was waiting with a bunch of people (presumably a mix of races?) and when he went to get in they drove away. He was advocating "lessons in Aboriginal history for the brown-skinned people now coming to our land".

Here it is: www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/victoria/actor-and-aboriginal-elder-uncle-jack-charles-refused-taxi-in-melbourne-again-20160413-go5lrb.html?client=ms-android-optus-au

But without speaking to them how did he know they had arrived recently? (Sorry to bang on about this!)

Sorry x post - reading now!

and its 2017...

Still nothing has changed in Australia.

Considering only around 25% (in 2009 - and declining) of taxi drivers are Australian-born, it's likely that the taxi driver who snubbed him wasn't even born here, and wasn't a "white Australian". This is especially likely in Melbourne (or Sydney).

That's right, GreatScot8. That's what I said.

Penelope Sorry, I didn't see in your original post that you'd mentioned that!

But good to have my suspicions confirmed.

Ha ha. That's okay.

And user1486082563, complaining about education standards is completely different to what was in the original thread. If you want to do that, start a different thread. Certainly don't revive an unrelated zombie one.

BTW, education standards vary from state to state, public to private, school to school, area to area. Australia is huge. You are generalising. It isn't useful.

And PISA is an internationally recognised measure (that I note some British people seem to like to disregard, as it's at odd with their prejudices!).

ZOMBIE THREAD!

How interesting would it be if Einsty were able to give an update now though? Be like the perfect thread where an OP updates it and tells you how it all panned out.

Racism in Australia is nothing new. I moved there in the 60s as a ten pound Pom and saw it everyday at school. We were picked on and called names (dirty Pom being my favourite) the Southern Europeans were "Wogs" the kids from Slavonic countries "yugos" and the treatment of the Aboriginals was nothing short of barbaric. By the way my sister talks it's the same, but the targets have changed.
However op, one thing that we did see were lots of people that hated the place. My mum, never the most philosophical of women once sat a fellow migrant down after she was in tears and said " look, you can't change the past or present only your future. Live in today, make the most of it. If you don't want tomorrow to be the same, change it. But if you look back you will be miserable."

Fucking zombie thread! That's what I get for posting so early.

Glad it was a zombie thread. Saved me posting about the golliwogs in the early learning centre - I already did that 6 years ago.

How nice to have it confirmed that I am indeed a crashing bore churning out the same posts year after year

"Wog" is generally not considered offensive anymore.

Golliwogs also aren't considered racist here, as they're based on an archetype that never existed in Australia. They obviously would be considered racist to somewhere like the UK and US, but here they are doll treated with nothing but affection.

Buuut I'm sure someone'll be along to tell me I'm wrong and/or racist.

Wogs call themselves Wog's and it seems to be more descriptive than anything else really.

I don't really use the word but, it seems okay.

Oh and yes golliwogs are just dolls, and really only available in very expensive shops.

user you're just annoyed your working holiday visa has ran out and you have to go home. Get over it

As for saying the education here is bether than Aus, I couldn't strongly diagree enough.

And to the pp say Ozzie, will you feck off. It's Aussie or Australian.