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notapizzaeater · 15/09/2026 17:33

my DH was on the morphine, fentanyl patches, parcetomal etc but ironically what actually worked best was caspican cream - we had to put gloves on to rub it in but he swore by it. I know when they suggested it to him he laughed …..

Hisredipad · 15/09/2026 18:24

notapizzaeater · 15/09/2026 17:33

my DH was on the morphine, fentanyl patches, parcetomal etc but ironically what actually worked best was caspican cream - we had to put gloves on to rub it in but he swore by it. I know when they suggested it to him he laughed …..

Be very very careful. I got that cream for me and failed to use gloves. Ouch ouch

notapizzaeater · 15/09/2026 23:30

Hisredipad · 15/09/2026 18:24

Be very very careful. I got that cream for me and failed to use gloves. Ouch ouch

Haha ! What did you touch 🤣🤣🤣 ?

shiningstar2 · 17/09/2026 09:26

There was the first team meeting about DH's cancer yesterday and we have an appointment today to hear the exact type of pluera cancer he has and what can be done for him. We already know it's inoperable so hoping they have some kind of plan to push it back.

He has an awful night.lsst night with pain and even, in desperation, taking meds in the night which took him over his 3 times a day prescription didn't help. This cancer hides itself in it's early stages and is really fast moving in its later stages. It seems to have moved on again even in the last few days.
Feel like I'm hoping for the BG EST and desperately pushing preparing for the worst away from my mind.
Awful seeing him like this. Hope today they up the pain meds.

BIossomtoes · 17/09/2026 11:31

Let us know how it goes @shiningstar2. I’m thinking of you.

thornbury · 17/09/2026 13:09

@shiningstar2 that sounds tough, but as you say better to know what you are dealing with, even if that in itself turns out to be particularly nasty.

When I got to ICU yesterday, there were doctors lingering near DH's room and they pulled me into a meeting room and we finally had the conversation I felt was much overdue. They said that he is not responding to treatment and his lungs are very badly damaged. They want to ask him about his intubation preferences while he still has the capacity to answer them - he has told me and his oncologist that he doesn't want to be intubated, but they need to be absolutely sure. He's very definitely on end of life care now, and I asked them if they thought it would be days, weeks or months, but qualified it with I know you can't be sure; the oncologist said probably a few weeks. He will, at some point, most likely go into respiratory arrest. The team were so kind and comforting, and very conscious of our expat status (vast majority of patients here are local) and thus the lack of visible support for me, compared to the locals who have the whole family rock up, complete with food and drinks!

DH doesn't know that his time is close, and when I heard him on the phone to a colleague later, he said 'I might still turn a corner'. 9 days in ICU and only yesterday did he finally put his out of office on, FFS. I don't think he wants to face the reality, and I agreed with his oncologist that we won't take away his hope. Even today he's asked me if he can go home if they're not actively treating him now, and I of course had to say no as he's on pumped oxygen and there is no way it is possible to have the care he needs anywhere but here - they won't even move him a few doors down the corridor to HDU.

I'm now on indefinite paid leave from work and they are being so supportive and kind. It's three weeks until half term and my daughter is coming out then; I don't know that DH will still be with us, but I will certainly appreciate having her around.

shiningstar2 · 17/09/2026 13:50

I am so sorry @thornbury that you and your husband are going through this. It must be even harder to be ex-pats so it's good that the medical teams are so supportive.i am in the waiting area while DH is fitted with a device to drain his lung again. This will need drained by a nurse every few days so we have well and truly been thrust into the awful world of cancer land.

Thinking of you and your DH and hoping he is kept as comfortable as possible and you are as 'ok' as it's possible to be in these circumstances ♥️

lastdaysofaugust · 17/09/2026 17:43

@thornbury I am so sorry. I’ve had very similar with DH, he just won’t stop working even though his work have said if he sends one email a week they’ll count it as full time!

Work is a massive worry for me and I know I’ll have to go off at some point but I don’t know exactly when to gauge it, it’s so hard when it’s all so uncertain.

Flowers May he be as comfortable as possible.

shiningstar2 · 18/09/2026 17:52

How has today gone for you @thornbury? It is such a stressful time for you and your loved one. I hope that the doctors are keeping him as comfortable as possible and that you have some support around you. ♥️
Yesterday was a day like no other for us. It began with an appointment where we were told that DH definitely had Metholioma cancer. There are two types of this in the lung and it turns out that DH has the fastest, most aggressive kind.
They say he has 'less than a year' to live without treatment and 'possibly more than a year' with.
After we had tried to take this in they told us that the lung they'd drained about a week ago was now full of fluid again. They offered to drain it again there and then which he accepted. Unfortunately the procedure hit something unexpected, there was blood everywhere and DH said the pain was excruciating.
Left in a wheelchair for hours while the drain worked. Then sent down to X-ray dept for a scan and an X-ray. No porters available for an hour By this time 5.30 in the afternoon and the ward was ringing down to exray asking where he was as the doctor wanted to see him, check the scans and see if he was fit to go home.
By the time this was done and they kept him for an hour's observation we got home 8.30 that night with the added knowledge that we'll now have a district nurse coming around every few days to drain the lung.

We thought we were only going to be there an hour. Had to ring DD to come to ours after work to feed/walk our dog.
When we got home we had to tell DD about the prognosis. Tears all round them a sleepless night.
Just to confirm what we were hardly able to take in yesterday We've had a call today from the Methsolioma help we were referred to letting us know that we can definitely have Attendance Allowance and a Blue Badge because DH has 'less than a year to live'
Just over a month ago our GP was telling us DH's pain was 'probably a broken rib'
So a lot to take in today.
So grateful for this site. Hope others are having the best day possible ♥️

thornbury · 18/09/2026 18:34

@shiningstar2 that's horrific, I am so sorry. Poor DH and poor you and DD 😢 Strangely enough, although my DH has Cancer of Unknown Primary, the genetic testing came back with 'most consistent with mesothelioma'. We are all wondering now, including his oncologist, if although it seemed unlikely at time we got the report, there was maybe something in it after all, since he is dying from a lung condition associated with the metastatic cancer in his body, despite the fact that it's not in his lungs but in his bones and lymphatic system. They proposed that it was a rare subtype that begins in the testis. Who wants a rare type of a rare cancer?! For CUP, the median survival is 4-15 months, so like you we knew from the outset how aggressive it would be. It's 6 months next Thursday since his diagnosis, and I don't know if he will still be with us then.

Today was really hard. At one point I was sitting rubbing his back and silently weeping. He has been having more frequent hypoxic incidents and of course he gets panicky and agitated. He is constantly coughing up and spitting up blood-tinged fluid. He finds it really uncomfortable to lay down as it restricts his breathing and exacerbates his back pain, so he is usually sitting on the side of the bed (it has an air mattress so even that's a challenge) with the head end raised, clinging on to the handle there, hunched forward with his chin on his chest, panting and moaning. He is 62 and when I see him like that I would believe you if you told me he was a man in his 90s.

The Dr from pain management came twice today and she has put him on a sedative which supports him to continue to breathe independently, unlike high doses of morphine. It supposedly helps a person to become less agitated about being short of breath and is often used when taking someone off a ventilator. I really hope it works, as he was on the border between restless and agitated when I left today and I still wouldn't consider him to be comfortable in either mind or body.

Another horrendous decision to make is a financial one. We have always been totally committed to joint finances. When he dies, any bank account in this country in his name, including joint, will be frozen. The notification goes immediately through government channels because of the ID card system we have where we live. I have had to open an account in my name, which we agreed I would do, and at some point I have to move pretty much all of our money from the joint account into my new one, especially as I have to pay a year's rent upfront next month. As soon as I do that, it's an acknowledgement that he is never coming home and it signals to him that I am preparing for his death. So, I am putting off doing it but I cannot risk leaving it too late. What an awful position to be in. He hardly looks at his phone these last few days and he gave me the PIN for it, so I might do it with his phone to hand and delete the notification straight away. I don't even want to be thinking like this.

notapizzaeater · 18/09/2026 21:13

It’s awful thinking about the practicalities ‘after’ but it can make life so much easier. My DH wouldn’t talk about it as he wasn’t going to die and in the last few weeks was regularly confused and changed passwords on things ‘to be helpful’. My DH employers where fantastic (as where mine tbh) he was very senior and everyone else picked up the slack and he just logged on as and when he could to deal with stuff. And when he died they immediately issued a payment for 2 years of holiday pay that he hadn’t been able to use which was priceless whilst I was waiting for stuff to come through.

don’t forget in all of this you need to take care of you. If anyone is West Yorkshire, I’m can come and hold your hand.

thornbury · 22/09/2026 19:46

@shiningstar2 and @lastdaysofaugust I hope you are both doing ok.

It's after 10.30pm here and I just got home from the hospital - I was in two minds about staying but there wasn't anywhere for me to sleep and it would have made tomorrow even harder to get through.

Today was day 15 in ICU. I've spoken again with the ICU dr and the oncologist who knows DH best and we all agreed to DNI and DNR, which means he can be moved off ICU now that they don't have to keep him there in readiness for resuscitation. He has deteriorated so much more even since I last posted - the oncologist believes there is cancer in his liver as he is more jaundiced every day. Finally today he agreed to switch from high flow nasal cannula, which wasn't coping at all well with the state his lungs are in even at 100% pure oxygen, to a BiPAP machine, which means his saturation is now holding steady in the low 90s rather than the 75-80 he was on when I got there this morning. They also put a central line in today (also seems overdue) and swapped the push button morphine for a syringe driver now that he's mostly too out of it to self-administer.

The syringe driver then turned out to overturn the planned move to a general ward (for a quieter and more appropriate place for his last few days) as the ward rules don't permit a patient with that installed, so after waiting from 3pm to 10pm for them to move him, he hasn't gone anywhere yet and when he does, it will just be to HDU which is the 'bottom end' of the same ward.

My head is scrambled. The horror of this slow and painful deterioration and eventual death just goes on and on. In my head initially there was just a 'before' and 'after' and I kind of naively imagined him slipping into prolonged sleep and never coming around from it. Instead, there is just a horrendous ordeal for us both.

The staff are lovely but I have never felt so alone. I do not recommend emigrating if one of you is going to die and the other has to navigate that process alone, while family 7+ hours away feel helpless and inadequate.

Evenstar · 22/09/2026 21:22

I am so sorry to see this update @thornbury, is there any possibility of a family member travelling to support you

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 21:26

I wish I could hug you @thornbury.

Hisredipad · 22/09/2026 23:20

@thornbury sending you big hugs. So very sorry that everything is so difficult xxxxx

notapizzaeater · 22/09/2026 23:24

So sorry to hear this, are you local to any of us ? I’m West Yorkshire

Willowkins · 23/09/2026 00:24

I'm so sorry you're having to go through this @thornbury It's hard to see these things and it can be even harder to unsee them.
Another one sending you a hug.

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thornbury · 23/09/2026 02:28

I'm in the middle east. All family are in the UK. My parents are in their 80s, my dad might manage travelling but he's my mum's carer and she needs him more than I do. My sister is 60 and hasn't been on a plane in 30+ years; she's a cancer survivor and has her own health challenges. DH lost his mum a few years ago, his dad is also in his 80s and tbh probably wouldn't come even if he wasn't too sick to do so. DH's middle brother didn't put himself out to see him in London (lives in Staffordshire) in July so no chance he'd come here, or be welcomed. His youngest brother is a diamond, but even if he got time off and I bought him a flight I don't personally want anyone else around that adds to my mental load.

DD is 26 and the light of my life - she's an incredible person and I'm so proud of her (DH is not her father). She works full time and we have agreed that rather than take leave to sit around the hospital or my house, just waiting, she will travel as soon as he passes. My mum always called DD my shadow when she was little, I could do with her there now.

Jaffapaffa · 23/09/2026 06:55

I'm so sorry to read your update @thornbury

When my DH suddenly deteriorated, he was on a stroke therapy ward of 4 men - the other 3 were having noisy music therapy, or doing physical exercises whilst DH was slipping away.

I was asked if I thought he'd like to stay there or go somewhere quieter - DH was an incredibly quiet and dignified person, so I asked for a quieter space, only to be told that there wasn't one available.

However - just a few hours later he was moved into what felt like an unused room right at the end of the ward. It was light and bright, and I could see out house from the window.

So please don't give up hope that a more appropriate space came be found for him 🤞

Although I'd been told it would be several days before he passed, it turned out to be just 24 hours, all of which I spent with him.

Thinking of you at this horrendous time xx

Evenstar · 23/09/2026 08:12

So sorry @thornbury I hope today they find somewhere more appropriate for your DH. My first DH died suddenly when we were living several hours away from my family who were largely working and that was hard enough, but to go through a prolonged illness and hospitalisation so far from family support is really tough.

shiningstar2 · 23/09/2026 08:31

I'm so sorry to hear this awful news @thornbury . It is terrible even with family around you but to be so far away from your families and friends must make everything so much worse.
I hope the hospital finds a more peaceful place for your husband and you to be.
My thoughts and prayers are with you this morning. 🙏♥️

thornbury · 23/09/2026 19:47

DH passed peacefully with me beside him at around 10.45 local time this morning.

Evenstar · 23/09/2026 19:57

So sorry to hear that @thornbury, I hope it’s some comfort that he is no longer in pain. I hope your DD can get to you soon

Hisredipad · 23/09/2026 20:03

really sorry to hear your sad news @thornbury I hope you can find peace in his peace. Thinking of you 💐💐💐

shiningstar2 · 23/09/2026 22:06

So sorry to hear this @thornbury . You and he have had a terrible time. I do hope you have some support around you and that your daughter will be with you soon. ♥️